Interesting health study

TritonRider said:

This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

I'm certain I've heard of studies like this. I also seem to remember
that it tended to support moderate exercise even in polluted
environments (with the caveat that one should preferably exercise early
in the day, when IIRC ozone and nitrogen oxides and particulates would
be somewhat lower in level).
However, this would be one of those studies that mean less that it
would seem, because how one calculates the real risk of pollution varies
so much from individual to individual.
To give an extreme example, giving a blanket endorsement of this kind
to an asthmatic patient would be irresponsible in the extreme. It may
also be that living close to factories could be associated with other
risk factors, such as poverty, pre-existing pulmonary disease, etc.

Steve

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a

US

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study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance

athlete

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due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.

My allergies get much worse as my training volume goes up. Also, this makes
me recall the "controversy" of the percentage of athletes relative to the
greater population that use meds for asthma. Why is it so hard to beleive
that there will be larger number of cases when this group clearly uses their
lungs a lot more and at rates that pushes some of these organs to their
limits?

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Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a
US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

And how much training is done near traffic (higer concentration of
pollutants)? On the up side I read somewhere that riding along side traffic
can increase you avg speed.

-p

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a

US

Quoted message said:

study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance

athlete

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due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.

My allergies get much worse as my training volume goes up. Also, this

makes

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me recall the "controversy" of the percentage of athletes relative to the
greater population that use meds for asthma. Why is it so hard to beleive
that there will be larger number of cases when this group clearly uses

their

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lungs a lot more and at rates that pushes some of these organs to their
limits?

I don't disagree, but athletes are more likely to seek asthma meds than your
average person who doesn't feel the effects of asthma as much, or isn't
bothered by the effects as much.

-WG

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a
US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

I'll do some digging and see if I can locate the article I read this past
summer in our local paper. It talked specifically about high ozone levels
and athletic activity. It concluded that it was potentially quite harmful
(long term) to exercise during an ozone alert. The article was quite
specific about the kinds of damage that would be done. It was quite a
compelling case and I steered clear of some late afternoon club rides and
training sessions during the hot and hazy days of July and August.

Though I live in a remote, rural area, I'm about 2 1/2 hours down the
prevailing wind from Atlanta. Usually you can only smell cows around here.
Sometimes you can smell Atlanta.

Bob C.

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart
disease, a US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their
lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

I'll do some digging and see if I can locate the article I read this
past summer in our local paper. It talked specifically about high
ozone levels and athletic activity. It concluded that it was
potentially quite harmful (long term) to exercise during an ozone
alert. The article was quite specific about the kinds of damage that
would be done. It was quite a compelling case and I steered clear of
some late afternoon club rides and training sessions during the hot
and hazy days of July and August.

Though I live in a remote, rural area, I'm about 2 1/2 hours down the
prevailing wind from Atlanta. Usually you can only smell cows around
here. Sometimes you can smell Atlanta.

What's the difference :-)

PH

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a
US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

I'll do some digging and see if I can locate the article I read this past
summer in our local paper. It talked specifically about high ozone
levels and athletic activity. It concluded that it was potentially quite
harmful (long term) to exercise during an ozone alert. The article was
quite specific about the kinds of damage that would be done. It was
quite a compelling case and I steered clear of some late afternoon club
rides and training sessions during the hot and hazy days of July and
August.

Though I live in a remote, rural area, I'm about 2 1/2 hours down the
prevailing wind from Atlanta. Usually you can only smell cows around
here. Sometimes you can smell Atlanta.

What's the difference :-)

PH

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This was just linked to over at URC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease, a
US
study suggests.

I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
athlete
due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
regularly.
Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
Bill C

I'll do some digging and see if I can locate the article I read this past
summer in our local paper. It talked specifically about high ozone
levels and athletic activity. It concluded that it was potentially quite
harmful (long term) to exercise during an ozone alert. The article was
quite specific about the kinds of damage that would be done. It was
quite a compelling case and I steered clear of some late afternoon club
rides and training sessions during the hot and hazy days of July and
August.

Though I live in a remote, rural area, I'm about 2 1/2 hours down the
prevailing wind from Atlanta. Usually you can only smell cows around
here. Sometimes you can smell Atlanta.

What's the difference :-)

PH

One smells like methane and the other smells really bad.

Bob C.

In Chicago, we used to joke that the pollution thinned the air and thus was
like training at altitude, at sea level. I was a bike messenger in Chicago
before I was a racer and I never noticed any ill effects. My asthma got a
lot worse when I moved to Colorado in 1994.

Regarding the asthma part of this thread, I have had asthma my entire life.
My childhood was a sterile bedroom and many pills and clueless Doctors. One
doctor told me to take up swimming so I would learn how to breathe. Later
on I was a bike racer. The solution for me as a cyclist was threefold: (1)
meeting a doctor that knew what he was doing, (2) allergy shots to minimize
the effect of allergy induced asthma and (3) a warm-up I devised to prevent
exercise induced asthma.

HTH
John Bickmore
www.EmeraldRecycle.com

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> This was just linked to over at URC.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
> Air pollution caused by traffic and factories may cause heart disease,

a

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> US
> study suggests.
>
> I wonder how much more intense the effects would be in an endurance
> athlete
> due to moving that much larger a volume of bad air through their lungs
> regularly.
> Would the training benefits offset the damage done by the pollutants?
> Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on this.
> Bill C
>

I'll do some digging and see if I can locate the article I read this

past

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summer in our local paper. It talked specifically about high ozone
levels and athletic activity. It concluded that it was potentially

quite

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harmful (long term) to exercise during an ozone alert. The article was
quite specific about the kinds of damage that would be done. It was
quite a compelling case and I steered clear of some late afternoon club
rides and training sessions during the hot and hazy days of July and
August.

Though I live in a remote, rural area, I'm about 2 1/2 hours down the
prevailing wind from Atlanta. Usually you can only smell cows around
here. Sometimes you can smell Atlanta.

What's the difference :-)

PH

One smells like methane and the other smells really bad.

Bob C.

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I don't disagree, but athletes are more likely to seek asthma meds than

your

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average person who doesn't feel the effects of asthma as much, or isn't
bothered by the effects as much.

-WG

That was my point.