insoles footbeds?

A friend on mine bough a pair from CCC in Hathersage last week, but he has
not tried them yet.

According to the shop the 30 day guarantee is for 30 'walking' days not
calendar days, so if they don't work take them back for a refund!

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whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to

solve

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the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to

lack

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the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

Scott wrote

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whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to solve
the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to lack
the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

I have used Sorbothane in the past and I rate it very highly. Its unlikely
to help you with your problem, however, which is probably down to your feet
simply not being conditioned for the extra weight that you carry when back-
packing. It certainly affects me in that way. It may prove cheaper just to
train up with some heavy weights for a few weekend walks before you go or
even try to get your pack weight down a bit.

Chris

it seems as though I cant do anything more to try to sort the problem out. I
can do twenty mile day hikes no problem, and two day backpacking trips of a
round 15 miles a day. but any longer than that and my feet start to ache
nearly all of the time. its really annoying because my feet are the only
reason that I cannot travel further and for longer. the reason I thought
that the insoles might help was because the insoles in my boots flatten
right out after using them only a couple of times. so I end up walking
straight on the sole of the boots.

when you say that you can conditioning your feet by practicing with loads
before a long hike do you mean that the soles of your feet improve
physically, or is it more like they adjust to carrying the loads?. thanks

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Scott wrote

Quoted message said:

whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to
solve
the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to
lack
the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

I have used Sorbothane in the past and I rate it very highly. Its unlikely
to help you with your problem, however, which is probably down to your
feet
simply not being conditioned for the extra weight that you carry when
back-
packing. It certainly affects me in that way. It may prove cheaper just to
train up with some heavy weights for a few weekend walks before you go or
even try to get your pack weight down a bit.

Chris

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:13:50 GMT, "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote:

| whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
| ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to solve
| the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to lack
| the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
| front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
| which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

I searched long and hard for boots with soft soles like my Merrell walking
sandals. I eventually found some with Merrell "Air cushion" soles which
work OK for my bad knees. These do not IME flatten much. I failed to
find the equivalent from other manufacturers, but no doubt they exist.

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In message <[email hidden]>, Scott
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to solve
the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to lack
the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

There could be a number of reasons for this. One is that your boots
don't have adequate cushioning for the heavier loads needed for
backpacking. What boots do you have?

I would certainly replace the insoles that come with boots - any boots.
These are generally [censored] and flatten out very quickly, giving no
support. A good footbed should support the foot and hold it in position.
Superfeet and Conform'able footbeds will do this. They are slightly
different shapes and some people find one more comfortable than the
other - Superfeet are best for me.

If the foot is held in position then it won't flatten out too much
(over-pronate) and the fat pads under your heels cam absorb shock.

A good footbed will only work with a boot that fits properly If your
boots don't fit no footbed will do much.

I wrote a piece on boot fitting several years ago. You can find it here:

http://gorp.away.com/gorp/gear/features/bootfit.htm

I also suggest having a look at:

http://www.fitsystembyphiloren.com/

Scott wrote

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the reason I thought
that the insoles might help was because the insoles in my boots flatten
right out after using them only a couple of times. so I end up walking
straight on the sole of the boots.

Then an orthotic insole like Superfeet would be prefereable to
Sorbothane, which is used more for its impact absorbing qualities
than its capacity to retain its shape.

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when you say that you can conditioning your feet by practicing with loads
before a long hike do you mean that the soles of your feet improve
physically, or is it more like they adjust to carrying the loads?. thanks

Without doubt the best exercise to condition your body for walking
is walking itself. In my experience I don't start feeling comfortable
with a big pack until toward the end of a few days, by which time I
start feeling fabulous :-) In the days before this my feet will hurt
quite badly and it is the bones of the foot, unacustomed with the load,
that hurt the most.

Chris

"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to

solve

Quoted message said:

the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to

lack

Quoted message said:

the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone no
which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

I developed this condition around 18 months ago after being able to do much
longer walks. I suggest that you visit a podiatrist before embarking on the
use of any corrective orthotics. You may well find that you need specifica
support.

druidh

I have a similar problem, after a 'long' walk on hard surfaces the soles of
my feet hurt, this never happened with my old boots, Zambelan, but I get it
with my new boots Meindl. Using a walking stick relives the pressure on one
foot so these days just the sole of my left causes problems.

So I would say it is to do with the design of the boots, I have seen similar
comments about Meindl in this group before, but everyones feet are different

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Scott wrote

Quoted message said:

whenever I go backpacking I find that the soles of my feet soon start to
ache. I've been thinking about buying superfeet hike insoles to try to

solve

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the problem, but I'm put of by the fact that they are £31, and seem to

lack

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the extra cushioning that sorbothane double strike footbeds have at the
front. but I also want the best that I can get hold of. so does anyone

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

which of the two will be best for stopping foot ache. thanks

I have used Sorbothane in the past and I rate it very highly. Its unlikely
to help you with your problem, however, which is probably down to your

feet

Quoted message said:

simply not being conditioned for the extra weight that you carry when

back-

Quoted message said:

packing. It certainly affects me in that way. It may prove cheaper just to
train up with some heavy weights for a few weekend walks before you go or
even try to get your pack weight down a bit.

Chris

Ted Ferenc said:

Using a walking stick relives the pressure on one
foot so these days just the sole of my left causes problems.

Er, use two sticks then you'd be problem-free?

SteveO

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I find that too confusing! Especially after the pub! I use 1 stick because I
have a knackered right ankle and it does help my 'walking' by taking some
weight off it.

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Ted Ferenc said:

Using a walking stick relives the pressure on one
foot so these days just the sole of my left causes problems.

Er, use two sticks then you'd be problem-free?

SteveO

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Ted Ferenc said:

I find that too confusing! Especially after the pub!

:-) try it, you'll find more stability after the pub... you're good to go whichever way you lean!!

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I use 1 stick because I have a knackered right ankle and it does help
my 'walking' by taking some weight off it.

I have a knackered right ankle too and use two sticks because its much
more balanced.

SteveO

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I use 1 stick because I have a knackered right ankle and it does help
my 'walking' by taking some weight off it.

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I have a knackered right ankle too and use two sticks because its much
more balanced.

I have one as well. Perhaps we should start a knackered right ankle
owners club with associate members who have a left ankle problem.

I don't routinely use a pole. I usually carry one just in case but the
only times so far that it has seen any use in the hills is the
occasional stream crossing where the inability to stand still on one leg
is a distinct liability.

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