Innovations Seal & Flate

Paul Nevai said:

Is Innovations Seal & Flate good? I mean for just minor
punctures with temporary fixes till I get home when I
would replace the tube anyway.

Why don't you change the tube "out there"? Then patch the
original properly when you get home. (A road tube is quite
light and small, so why not carry one in a saddle bag or
jersey pocket?)

I carry an Innovations CO2 dealie (along with a pump) to get
tires up to pressure easily; and temporary patches for last-
ditch efforts to avoid walking home.

Bill "Flate part good; don't know about the Seal aspect" S.

"S o r n i" <[email hidden]> aszonygya:
:Paul Nevai wrote:
:> Is Innovations Seal & Flate good? I mean for just minor
:> punctures with temporary fixes till I get home when I
:> would replace the tube anyway.
:
:Why don't you change the tube "out there"? Then patch the
original properly :when you get home. (A road tube is quite
light and small, so why not carry :one in a saddle bag or
jersey pocket?)

I never patch. I always replace the entire tube. I admit my
guilt. I committed such a crime about a dozen times in the
past 15 years.

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in the
butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a taxi now
and then do the job at home in the comfort of my workshop.
[I hesitate to say this, and I am knocking on wood but I
never had tire problem away from home since 1996. I had a
few at home though.]

Best regards, Paul

(Paul Nevai) said:

Is Innovations Seal & Flate good? I mean for just minor
punctures with temporary fixes till I get home when I would
replace the tube anyway. Thanks,

It will inflate a tire once, for certain values of the word
"inflate". It *may* seal a puncture, if the conditions are
right. It might be faster, for one failure, if it works,
than carrying a tube and pump. It might be lighter than a
tube and pump. It's definitely less certain to get you
home, though.

After trying lots of stuff years ago, I carry a pump and
patches; if I'm on a long ride, a spare tube or two gets
added. Of course, if the bike doesn't have QR skewers, I
have to toss in a wrench as well; no big deal there.

Paul Nevai said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is Innovations Seal & Flate good? I mean for just minor
punctures with temporary fixes till I get home when I
would replace the tube anyway.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Why don't you change the tube "out there"? Then patch the
original properly when you get home. (A road tube is
quite light and small, so why not carry one in a saddle
bag or jersey pocket?)

Quoted message said:

I never patch. I always replace the entire tube. I admit
my guilt. I committed such a crime about a dozen times in
the past 15 years.

Quoted message said:

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in the
butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a taxi
now and then do the job at home in the comfort of my
workshop. [I hesitate to say this, and I am knocking on
wood but I never had tire problem away from home since
1996. I had a few at home though.]

When I don't have my footman at my side to give me his
bicycle when I flat, I call for my helicopter. It's much
less effort.

I don't ever patch tubes, such a mundane and dirty task.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Paul Nevai writes:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in
the butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a
taxi now and then do the job at home in the comfort of
my workshop. [I hesitate to say this, and I am knocking
on wood but I never had tire problem away from home
since 1996. I had a few at home though.]

When I don't have my footman at my side to give me his
bicycle when I flat, I call for my helicopter. It's much
less effort.

I don't ever patch tubes, such a mundane and dirty task.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

JB, when you're being sarcastic, it's best to use a nom de
snark. "Carapace Completed Umber" and "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
are taken, but "Jochen Grump" is not.

Also, are you not the person who takes the position that
riding up mountains is fun but bike-camping tours are not? I
dare say that personal definitions of joy and pain vary
greatly, and never more so than in our avocations.

Of course, I'm all virtuous and stuff, since I just spent a
lunch hour teaching several co-workers how to fix a flat
bike tire. The organization's "Green Team" gave me a coffee
mug that says "I'm a friend of the environment" for my
trouble. If only they knew.

I am Spartacus,
--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
sfu.cawiredcolaOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Paul Nevai writes:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in
the butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a
taxi now and then do the job at home in the comfort of
my workshop. [I hesitate to say this, and I am knocking
on wood but I never had tire problem away from home
since 1996. I had a few at home though.]

When I don't have my footman at my side to give me his
bicycle when I flat, I call for my helicopter. It's much
less effort.

I don't ever patch tubes, such a mundane and dirty task.

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

JB, when you're being sarcastic, it's best to use a nom de
snark. "Carapace Completed Umber" and "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
are taken, but "Jochen Grump" is not.

Also, are you not the person who takes the position that
riding up mountains is fun but bike-camping tours are not?
I dare say that personal definitions of joy and pain vary
greatly, and never more so than in our avocations.

Of course, I'm all virtuous and stuff, since I just spent a
lunch hour teaching several co-workers how to fix a flat
bike tire. The organization's "Green Team" gave me a coffee
mug that says "I'm a friend of the environment" for my
trouble. If only they knew.

I am Spartacus,

Dear Ryan,

I still think that "Job St. Brandt" would do to signal the
light-hearted posts.

Carl Fog El

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:47:07 GMT, [email hidden],
defying the people who have wrongly accused him of being humorless,

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When I don't have my footman at my side to give me his
bicycle when I flat, I call for my helicopter. It's much
less effort.

And far less destructive than the Harrier, or did you trade
that in for something else?

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I don't ever patch tubes, such a mundane and dirty task.

Yes, but someone has to do it, or how would the
patchmakers survive?

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I still think that "Job St. Brandt" would do to signal the
light-hearted posts.

Too British.

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Carl Fog El

Too Kryptonian.

I suspect that Jobst takes his humor too seriously to want
to use a nom de jeste.

Werehatrack said:

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I still think that "Job St. Brandt" would do to signal the
light-hearted posts.

Too British.

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Carl Fog El

Too Kryptonian.

I suspect that Jobst takes his humor too seriously to want
to use a nom de jeste.

Hmmm . . .

Were,h@rack?

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in
the butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a
taxi now and then do the job at home in the comfort of
my workshop. [I hesitate to say this, and I am knocking
on wood but I never had tire problem away from home
since 1996. I had a few at home though.]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When I don't have my footman at my side to give me his
bicycle when I flat, I call for my helicopter. It's much
less effort.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't ever patch tubes, such a mundane and dirty task.

Quoted message said:

JB, when you're being sarcastic, it's best to use a nom de
snark. "Carapace Completed Umber" and "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
are taken, but "Jochen Grump" is not.

Why?

Quoted message said:

Also, are you not the person who takes the position that
riding up mountains is fun but bike-camping tours are not?
I dare say that personal definitions of joy and pain vary
greatly, and never more so than in our avocations.

Interesting how you word that. I have mentioned that I
prefer to sleep in hotels and the like carrying only the
minimum baggage because I don't sleep well in a sleeping bag
and prefer to do more traveling than hauling. I don't
prescribe that formula for others as you seem to deduce. I
don't think you can find that I disparage the choice of
others make on that matter.

Quoted message said:

Of course, I'm all virtuous and stuff, since I just spent
a lunch hour teaching several co-workers how to fix a flat
bike tire. The organization's "Green Team" gave me a
coffee mug that says "I'm a friend of the environment" for
my trouble. If only they knew.

My helicopter at your service!

Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Ryan Cousineau writes:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

JB, when you're being sarcastic, it's best to use a nom
de snark. "Carapace Completed Umber" and "Fabrizio
Mazzoleni" are taken, but "Jochen Grump" is not.

Why?

It's not taken because it wouldn't suit any of the other
posters here. For a naive English speaker, it get's mis-
pronounced "Jokin Grump", and thus sounds very funny. I
highly recommend it; I put a bit of thought into that one.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also, are you not the person who takes the position that
riding up mountains is fun but bike-camping tours are
not? I dare say that personal definitions of joy and
pain vary greatly, and never more so than in our
avocations.

Interesting how you word that. I have mentioned that I
prefer to sleep in hotels and the like carrying only the
minimum baggage because I don't sleep well in a sleeping
bag and prefer to do more traveling than hauling. I don't
prescribe that formula for others as you seem to deduce. I
don't think you can find that I disparage the choice of
others make on that matter.

I stand corrected. I thought I had caught you making noises
about the uncivility of tenting, but a bit of Google-
stalking shows that your comments were not as harsh as I
recall. However, the essential point remains: there really
are people for whom the easiest way to deal with a bike
problem on their usual trips is to take a taxi away from it
all. Even I, hardcore transportational cyclist, have on one
or two occasions abandoned my bicycle at work in exchange
for public transportation (the last time was due to a couple
of broken spokes and a flat tire, as I recall; I decided it
would be easier to ride transit home with the wheel and
return on the morrow with the repaired wheel. This is the
Mr. Grinch* school of bike repair.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Of course, I'm all virtuous and stuff, since I just
spent a lunch hour teaching several co-workers how to
fix a flat bike tire. The organization's "Green Team"
gave me a coffee mug that says "I'm a friend of the
environment" for my trouble. If only they knew.

My helicopter at your service!

Oooh! Is it a Bell 206? They're execulicious! Then I could
fix the mug to read "I'm a fiend of the environment."

-RjC.

*From "How the Grinch Stole Christmas":

The Grinch had been caught by this little Who daughter Who'd
got out of bed for a cup of cold water. She stared at the
Grinch and said, "Santy Claus, why, "Why are you taking our
Christmas tree? WHY?"

But, you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick He
thought up a lie, and he thought it up quick! "Why, my sweet
little tot," the fake Santy Claus lied, "There's a light on
this tree that won't light on one side. "So I'm taking it
home to my workshop, my dear. "I'll fix it up there. Then
I'll bring it back here."

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
sfu.cawiredcolaOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club

the last time I had a flat (it was while the Giro was on) ,
I walked the bike up the road toward a shady tree and
thought how nice it would be if one of the passing cars
would stop and a man would come flying out of it with a
wheel change ...

"Paul Nevai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"S o r n i" <[email hidden]> aszonygya: :Paul
Nevai wrote:
:> Is Innovations Seal & Flate good? I mean for just minor
:> punctures with temporary fixes till I get home when I
:> would replace the tube anyway.
:
:Why don't you change the tube "out there"? Then patch the
original

properly

Quoted message said:

:when you get home. (A road tube is quite light and small,
so why not

carry

Quoted message said:

:one in a saddle bag or jersey pocket?)

I never patch. I always replace the entire tube. I admit
my guilt. I committed such a crime about a dozen times in
the past 15 years.

I used to replace tubes on the road but it's a pain in the
butt. I am looking for convenience. I rather call a taxi
now and then do the job at

home

Quoted message said:

in the comfort of my workshop. [I hesitate to say this,
and I am knocking

on

Quoted message said:

wood but I never had tire problem away from home since
1996. I had a few

at

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home though.]

Best regards, Paul