inflammation ad icing

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I have a quandry, after running I ice my knees. Then I
wish to bathe,so does the warm bath negate the icing?Do I
need to ice again after bathing? I think I have some
tendonitis which icing helps alot. Thanks Bob

S

I think ice after the bath would be an excellent idea. FWIW
I do that occasionally.

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The way I understand it- Ice stops the blood flow and when
the area warms the body pushes extra blood flow back into
the area to aid healing. So when I have a sore leg I do ice
massage with an ice cube (for no more then 10 minutes) then
I let the area warm and it feels better. I learned that from
my physical therapist.

So in your case I see no reason to reice after your warm
bath. Rest maybe the best healer with ice massage applied
repeated every 24 hrs.

Jim

"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3755-4086B72A-31@storefull-
3153.bay.webtv.net... I have a quandry, after running I ice
my knees. Then I wish to bathe,so does the warm bath negate
the icing?Do I need to ice again after bathing? I think I
have some tendonitis which icing helps alot. Thanks Bob

S²

JM said:

The way I understand it- Ice stops the blood flow and when
the area warms the body pushes extra blood flow back into
the area to aid healing. So when I have a sore leg I do
ice massage with an ice cube (for no more then 10 minutes)
then I let the area warm and it feels better. I learned
that from my physical therapist.

You can repeat the icing/warming a few times in a session
and repeat it a few times a day. The frequency would depend
on the injury.

Quoted message said:

So in your case I see no reason to reice after your
warm bath.

And I see no reason not to re-ice. A warm bath might cause
additional swelling. In general, you can't do harm with ice
unless you strap a 10 pound block to you body for an hour.
You can do harm, if only real discomfort, with heat.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

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"Bob" <[email hidden]> Then I wish to bathe,so does the
warm bath negate the icing?

There may be a safety reason for not taking a warm bath
after running. If you are really working then your heart is
working really hard, too. When you take a warm bath this
puts additional strain on your heart because of the rise in
blood pressure it causes.

I learned about this after a friend of mine went home to
take a hot bath after hard basketball. He died of a massive
heart attack.

Since you are reading this on the web, it would be smart to
check with an independent source. The simplest test would be
to somehow check your blood pressure at the end of a bath.

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Gleshna said:

There may be a safety reason for not taking a warm bath
after running. If you are really working then your heart
is working really hard, too. When you take a warm bath
this puts additional strain on your heart because of the
rise in blood pressure it causes.

It doesn't cause a rise in blood pressure. It causes a drop
when the peripheral veins dilate and sequester more of the
body's circulating volume. And that's where the "strain on
the heart" comes in -- it has to pump faster to accommodate
for the lower venous return and smaller stroke volume.

Quoted message said:

I learned about this after a friend of mine went home to
take a hot bath after hard basketball. He died of a
massive heart attack.

Something tragic happened to a friend, and I apologize and
recognize the emotional impact of something like that.
However, the "strain on the heart" of taking a bath is
minimal, even after exercise, and is probably nothing
compared to the strain of the exercise itself on the heart.
Please feel free to bathe after exercise. (In fact, your
friends and family might encourage it!)

-- Josh Steinberg MD, Syracuse