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  1. Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's
    last tour like - I know he had a good early season and
    arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low in the
    listing from day one, or did he just crack and never
    recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now,
    and he's started with a good season... (** beware of
    spoilers **)

  2. Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's
    last tour like - I know he had a good early season and
    arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low in the
    listing from day one, or did he just crack and never
    recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now,
    and he's started with a good season... (** beware of
    spoilers **)

    In 96 Indurain cracked on the first mountain stage (Stage
    7 - Chambery-Les Arcs) losing over 4 mins and never
    really recovered with the ultimate humiliation of losing
    8 and a half minutes to Riis on the stage to his home
    town in Pamplona.

    cyclingnews.comstages.h
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    Regards! Stephen

  3. Steve McGinty said:
    Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was
    Indurain's last tour like - I know he had a good early
    season and arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was
    he low in the listing from day one, or did he just crack
    and never recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's
    turn now, and he's started with a good season... (**
    beware of spoilers **)

    In 96 Indurain cracked on the first mountain stage (Stage
    7 - Chambery-Les Arcs) losing over 4 mins and never really
    recovered with the ultimate humiliation of losing 8 and a
    half minutes to Riis on the stage to his home town in
    Pamplona.

    cyclingnews.comsta
    ges.html

    Regards! Stephen

    By pure fluke I was standing by the road when Indurain
    started losing the time on the Les Arcs climb. It was a
    filthy day weatherwise, wet and cold. The rest of the
    mountain stages were wet and I think it contributed to loss
    of moral to Indurain

  4. Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's
    last tour like - I know he had a good early season and
    arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low in the
    listing from day one, or did he just crack and never
    recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now,
    and he's started with a good season... (** beware of
    spoilers **)

    My recollection was that the weather in the first week was
    diabolical - cold, wet and miserable - and Indurain didn't
    like racing In Der Rain...

    (dies)

    But seriously folks, IIRC he never got goinf after being
    sapped of energy / life force / the will to live during the
    first few days.

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    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Dave Larrington

    BIain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's
    last tour like - I know he had a good early season and
    arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low in the
    listing from day one, or did he just crack and never
    recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now,
    and he's started with a good season... (** beware of
    spoilers **)

    My recollection was that the weather in the first week was
    diabolical - cold, wet and miserable - and Indurain didn't
    like racing In Der Rain...

    (dies)

    [/B]

    It was terrible weather, I think Indurains moral was broken by the weather and as we know this game is 90% pyshological, the rest being in the head.

    Zulle just won the Prologue from Boardman. It was starting to rain, quite dark and I am sure Chris didn't want another St Brueic incident so took it very carefully.

    We followed the 1996 race from the start to the shortened stage to Sestriere, got rained on most of the time, Mrs MSeries was not very happy.

  6. An interesting and relevant extract from

    timesonline.co.uk0,,176
    1167449,00.html

    By David Walsh

    "The significance of the sixth is emblazoned across the
    consciousness of every cycling fan. We have seen them try
    and fail: Jacques Anquetil, Eddy Merckx, Bernard Hinault
    and Miguel Indurain. Anquetil’s quest for six ended on the
    road from Chamonix to St Etienne in the final week of the
    1966 Tour. He rode that year to help his teammate Lucian
    Aimar win and to ensure his great rival Raymond Poulidor
    didn’t win. On both counts, he succeeded and maybe it is
    true that in winning his fifth Tour, in 1964, he survived
    an unrelenting battle with Poulidor that cost him his
    chance of a sixth.

    People saw that failure coming, someone sensing in 1966 that
    Anquetil no longer had the thirst for attrition. Nine years
    later Merckx appeared certain to win his sixth but then he
    suddenly grew old on the climb to Pra Loup. The younger
    Bernard Thevenet caught and passed him and an era changed.
    Eleven years later, in 1986, Hinault had built a lead of
    almost nine minutes approaching the climb to Superbagneres
    in the Pyrenees. The race was his, all he had to do was keep
    pedalling.

    Hinault’s hopes died on that murderous ascent, when he was
    blinded by reckless ambition to his own humanity. Greg
    LeMond and others overtook Hinault and a new era began. Le
    Blaireau (The Badger), as Hinault was called, was left with
    just five.

    Exactly 10 years later, Miguel Indurain went for his sixth
    and was confidently expected to win. But on the climb to Les
    Arcs in the Alps, he slowed three kilometres from the summit
    and he was never the same again. He said it was dehydration;
    we discovered it was the end.

    We look at Armstrong now and despite his slightly subdued
    performance in last month’s Criterium du Dauphine Libere
    there is nothing to suggest he cannot dominate his rivals as
    he has for the past five years.

    Nothing except the weight of history."

    Regards! Stephen

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