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  1. Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much understanding of
    the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's last tour like - I know he had a
    good early season and arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low
    in the listing from day one, or did he just crack and never recover?
    Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now, and he's started with a
    good season... (** beware of spoilers **)

  2. Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much understanding of
    the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's last tour like - I know he had a
    good early season and arrived at the Tour fit and healthy, but was he low
    in the listing from day one, or did he just crack and never recover?
    Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now, and he's started with a
    good season... (** beware of spoilers **)

    In 96 Indurain cracked on the first mountain stage (Stage 7 -
    Chambery-Les Arcs) losing over 4 mins and never really recovered with
    the ultimate humiliation of losing 8 and a half minutes to Riis on the
    stage to his home town in Pamplona.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/archives/tour96/stages.html

    Regards!
    Stephen

  3. Steve McGinty said:
    Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much
    understanding of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's last tour
    like - I know he had a good early season and arrived at the Tour fit
    and healthy, but was he low in the listing from day one, or did he
    just crack and never recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's
    turn now, and he's started with a good season... (** beware of
    spoilers **)

    In 96 Indurain cracked on the first mountain stage (Stage 7 -
    Chambery-Les Arcs) losing over 4 mins and never really recovered with
    the ultimate humiliation of losing 8 and a half minutes to Riis on the
    stage to his home town in Pamplona.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/archives/tour96/stages.html

    Regards!
    Stephen

    By pure fluke I was standing by the road when Indurain started losing the
    time on the Les Arcs climb. It was a filthy day weatherwise, wet and cold.
    The rest of the mountain stages were wet and I think it contributed to loss
    of moral to Indurain

  4. Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much understanding
    of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's last tour like - I know
    he had a good early season and arrived at the Tour fit and healthy,
    but was he low in the listing from day one, or did he just crack and
    never recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now, and
    he's started with a good season... (** beware of spoilers **)

    My recollection was that the weather in the first week was diabolical -
    cold, wet and miserable - and Indurain didn't like racing In Der Rain...

    (dies)

    But seriously folks, IIRC he never got goinf after being sapped of energy /
    life force / the will to live during the first few days.

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    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
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  5. Dave Larrington said:
    Iain Jones said:

    Out of interest, and the fact I didn't really have much understanding
    of the TdF back in 1996, what was Indurain's last tour like - I know
    he had a good early season and arrived at the Tour fit and healthy,
    but was he low in the listing from day one, or did he just crack and
    never recover? Interesting to know since it's Lance's turn now, and
    he's started with a good season... (** beware of spoilers **)


    My recollection was that the weather in the first week was diabolical -
    cold, wet and miserable - and Indurain didn't like racing In Der Rain...
    (dies)

    It was terrible weather, I think Indurains moral was broken by the
    weather and as we know this game is 90% pyshological, the rest being
    in the head.

    Zulle just won the Prologue from Boardman. It was starting to rain,
    quite dark and I am sure Chris didn't want another St Brueic incident so
    took it very carefully.

    We followed the 1996 race from the start to the shortened stage to
    Sestriere, got rained on most of the time, Mrs MSeries was not
    very happy.

    --

  6. An interesting and relevant extract from

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1167449,00.html

    By David Walsh

    "The significance of the sixth is emblazoned across the consciousness
    of every cycling fan. We have seen them try and fail: Jacques
    Anquetil, Eddy Merckx, Bernard Hinault and Miguel Indurain. Anquetil’s
    quest for six ended on the road from Chamonix to St Etienne in the
    final week of the 1966 Tour. He rode that year to help his teammate
    Lucian Aimar win and to ensure his great rival Raymond Poulidor didn’t
    win. On both counts, he succeeded and maybe it is true that in winning
    his fifth Tour, in 1964, he survived an unrelenting battle with
    Poulidor that cost him his chance of a sixth.

    People saw that failure coming, someone sensing in 1966 that Anquetil
    no longer had the thirst for attrition. Nine years later Merckx
    appeared certain to win his sixth but then he suddenly grew old on the
    climb to Pra Loup. The younger Bernard Thevenet caught and passed him
    and an era changed. Eleven years later, in 1986, Hinault had built a
    lead of almost nine minutes approaching the climb to Superbagneres in
    the Pyrenees. The race was his, all he had to do was keep pedalling.

    Hinault’s hopes died on that murderous ascent, when he was blinded by
    reckless ambition to his own humanity. Greg LeMond and others overtook
    Hinault and a new era began. Le Blaireau (The Badger), as Hinault was
    called, was left with just five.

    Exactly 10 years later, Miguel Indurain went for his sixth and was
    confidently expected to win. But on the climb to Les Arcs in the Alps,
    he slowed three kilometres from the summit and he was never the same
    again. He said it was dehydration; we discovered it was the end.

    We look at Armstrong now and despite his slightly subdued performance
    in last month’s Criterium du Dauphine Libere there is nothing to
    suggest he cannot dominate his rivals as he has for the past five
    years.

    Nothing except the weight of history."

    Regards!
    Stephen

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