Induction; cravings

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice cream
and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating effect
generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the carton
put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with a
scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to find
out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at GNC
and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal effective
dose....

YMMV
Cubit
311/199/165

"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Minimalist backstory: Lurker for years and years, several failed
attempts at Atkins over the last ten years or so. 33 yo female,
~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese family. Not
experiencing PMS or on any medications. Moderate activity level.

A little older now, vaguely more focused, have actually stuck to
by-the-book Induction for one week now, which is a huge success for
me. I don't know how much weight I've lost; I'm a very slow loser so I
have to stay away from the scale or I get very discouraged. Clothes
are looser.

So anyway, it's been a week. Meat, fresh veggies, some cheese here and
there (had big cheese problems in the past--trying to keep it way
down). Going for a very 'keep it simple, stupid' approach, not playing
with any complex recipes or low carb 'products'.

My problem is I am getting awful, awful cravings starting about an
hour after dinner and pretty much sticking around for the whole night.

It really doesn't make any sense to me. Dinner is always very
straightforward. Last night was roast pork tenderloin and some
broccoli with real butter. So why the massive cravings an hour later?
Isn't that what *carbs* are supposed to do to you? (Lunch was roast
beef rolled with swiss cheese, for those feeling detective-y.)

The cravings are fairly sugar-specific, my brain conjures up images of
chocolate and whatnot, but at the time it also feels like walnuts or
berries or even tea with Splenda would kill it. All of which I am
trying to avoid during Inductin, and anyway I feel like giving into
these cravings is going to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't it? Opinions
welcome here--try to ignore the cravings, or give in with the
borderline-legal foods above? The cravings are bad enough that portion
control is a potential issue also.

I don't think eating more meat or cheese is the answer, as I find
these things are not the magic craving/hunger-killers for me they are
supposed to be.

33 yo female, ~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese
family. Not experiencing PMS or on any medications. Just trying to
brainstorm what this is. It's been a full week, shouldn't a lot of the
sugar addiction be out of my system by now? It's never been my primary
food problem, and I've been keeping the sucralose to absolute minimum.

Thanks in advance.

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice
cream
and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating
effect
generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the
carton
put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with
a
scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to
find
out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at
GNC
and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal
effective
dose....

YMMV
Cubit
311/199/165

I used to take several grams of L-G, and I did at the time find it
somewhat helpful.

--
Bob in CT

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice cream
and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating effect
generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the carton
put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with a
scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to find
out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at GNC
and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal effective
dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice cream
and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating effect
generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the carton
put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with a
scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to find
out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at GNC
and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal effective
dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

Mixing unsweetened cocoa powder, splenda, and heavy cream or coconut milk
can make a chocolate fix, yet be reasonably low carb.

"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice

cream

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the

carton

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to

find

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at

GNC

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal

effective

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

Mixing unsweetened cocoa powder, splenda, and heavy cream or coconut milk
can make a chocolate fix, yet be reasonably low carb.

"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice

cream

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the

carton

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to

find

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at

GNC

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal

effective

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

One thing I used to do was take Waist Watchers cream soda and put some
cream in it. The result was great -- sweet and creamy. I've sinced
stopped doing this because of the calories in cream, but I at one time
really enjoyed it (and Waist Watchers is so sweet that cutting it with
cream is better).

Another thing I've learned to do is eat part of dinner, then wait. If I'm
still hungry, 20 minutes-hour later, I'll eat some more.

Cubit said:

Mixing unsweetened cocoa powder, splenda, and heavy cream or coconut milk
can make a chocolate fix, yet be reasonably low carb.

"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice

cream

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton

until

Quoted message said:

full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the

carton

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured

with

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the

results.

Quoted message said:

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to

find

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at

GNC

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal

effective

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

--
Bob in CT

Bob M wrote:
:: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:23:56 GMT, Cubit <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be
::: eaten in those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or
::: low carb ice cream
::: and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce,
::: but usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The
::: satiating effect
::: generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton
::: until full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl
::: and the carton
::: put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured
::: with a
::: scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the
::: results.
:::
::: You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to
::: experiment to find
::: out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.
:::
::: Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.
:::
::: If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
::: L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
::: everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy
::: L-Glutamine at GNC
::: and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if
::: it works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal
::: effective
::: dose....
:::
:::
::: YMMV
::: Cubit
::: 311/199/165
:::
:::
::
:: I used to take several grams of L-G, and I did at the time find it
:: somewhat helpful.
::

Same here. You can buy it is several pound containers, too, so it's not that
expensive.

::
::
:: --
:: Bob in CT

keelie wrote:
:: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:23:56 GMT, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be
::: eaten in those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or
::: low carb ice cream and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would
::: have another ounce, but usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer
::: want food. The satiating effect generally holds for 1.5 hours.
::: Eating ice cream out of the carton until full is disaster. The
::: portion should be dished into a bowl and the carton put away before
::: having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with a scale.
::: Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.
:::
::: You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to
::: experiment to find out what low carb food does give you satiation
::: with a small portion.
:::
::: Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.
::
:: Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.
::
:: I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
:: approach would be an interesting experiment.
::
::: If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
::: L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
::: everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy
::: L-Glutamine at GNC and similar places. Ten grams at a time can
::: get expensive, so, if it works, you may want to experiment with
::: doses to find the minimal effective dose....
:::
::
:: I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
:: whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
:: heads up, worth a shot again.
::
:: I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
:: entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and
:: strawberries or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me
:: astray in the past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger
:: issue, they are an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake'
:: issue. Sigh.
::

Try to find something new to do during these times. Go for a walk, talk on
the phone, distract yourself. Since you have recognized that this is not
hunger, then you have merely to control what goes on in your head. When you
start thinking about these foods, go get in front of the mirror - nude - and
ask yourself if that's what you want to continue to look like. Then go for a
walk. Even a slow walk is worth something, so don't feel you have to make
it a major exercise thing if you feel you're already doing enough. The
point is, fill that time with something else.

:: Oh well, onward.

x-no-archive: yes

keelie said:

Cubit said:

Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be eaten in
those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or low carb ice cream
and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce, but
usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The satiating effect
generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton until
full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl and the carton
put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured with a
scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the results.

You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to experiment to find
out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.

Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.

Thanks a lot for the quick response--food for thought, so to speak.

I'm not and have never been much of a snacker. Maybe the small-meals
approach would be an interesting experiment.

Quoted message said:

If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy L-Glutamine at GNC
and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if it
works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal effective
dose....

I remember trying L-G waaaaaay back in the day, and it not doing a
whole lot, but I believe it was much smaller doses. Thanks for the
heads up, worth a shot again.

I'm still torn between whether to try to wait the cravings out
entirely or give into them with a little cream cheese and strawberries
or whatever. Listening to my body has generally led me astray in the
past. 🙁 And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are
an 'oh god, I want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

Oh well, onward.

Could you have a candida problem? I understand your cravings for the
sweet things and have been through it all myself too. Once I started
eating low-carb and treating the candida problem the cravings went.
Although I must warn that it was hell while I was healing. (The
die-back from the candida made me feel very ill).

Just a thought.
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~

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Minimalist backstory: Lurker for years and years, several failed
attempts at Atkins over the last ten years or so. 33 yo female,
~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese family. Not
experiencing PMS or on any medications. Moderate activity level.

Hi Keelie, welcome to the group (or, since you've been lurking for years
and years, welcome to newsgroup visibility :-)

Quoted message said:

A little older now, vaguely more focused, have actually stuck to
by-the-book Induction for one week now, which is a huge success for
me. I don't know how much weight I've lost; I'm a very slow loser so I
have to stay away from the scale or I get very discouraged. Clothes
are looser.

Good job!

Quoted message said:

It really doesn't make any sense to me. Dinner is always very
straightforward. Last night was roast pork tenderloin and some
broccoli with real butter. So why the massive cravings an hour later?
Isn't that what *carbs* are supposed to do to you? (Lunch was roast
beef rolled with swiss cheese, for those feeling detective-y.)

You may need to add more fat to feel satiated.

--
Saffire
205/145/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

keelie said:

And the cravings are definitely not a hunger issue, they are an 'oh god, I
want to wallow in chocolate cake' issue. Sigh.

i don't recommend feeding these kinds of cravings with food whether it's
low carb or not. try to distract yourself with something else - do some
exercise, read a book, play with the cat/dog/kids, take up knitting, do
a crossword puzzle - anything but eat food.

"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Minimalist backstory: Lurker for years and years, several failed
attempts at Atkins over the last ten years or so. 33 yo female,
~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese family. Not
experiencing PMS or on any medications. Moderate activity level.

snip
My problem is I am getting awful, awful cravings starting about an
hour after dinner and pretty much sticking around for the whole night.

It really doesn't make any sense to me. Dinner is always very
straightforward. Last night was roast pork tenderloin and some
broccoli with real butter. So why the massive cravings an hour later?
Isn't that what *carbs* are supposed to do to you? (Lunch was roast
beef rolled with swiss cheese, for those feeling detective-y.)

The cravings are fairly sugar-specific, my brain conjures up images of
chocolate and whatnot, but at the time it also feels like walnuts or
berries or even tea with Splenda would kill it. All of which I am
trying to avoid during Inductin, and anyway I feel like giving into
these cravings is going to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't it? Opinions
welcome here--try to ignore the cravings, or give in with the
borderline-legal foods above? The cravings are bad enough that portion
control is a potential issue also.

I don't think eating more meat or cheese is the answer, as I find
these things are not the magic craving/hunger-killers for me they are
supposed to be.

Quoted message said:

Thanks in advance.

Hi Keelie,
I'm into my 1st week of induction as well (again ...sigh)
I tend to either get a big glass of water and then brush my teeth with extra
minty toothpaste - seems to break the craving - water always makes me feel
bloated so I lose the hunger 🙂
Elise
180/178/140

I take the Atkins supplements- the dieters advantages really kill my
appetite, besides for making sure I 'm getting my vitamins

- I couldn't believe I walked away from my plate to answer the phone and
forgot I was in the middle of a meal! LCaritine

--
Diane

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Bob M wrote:
:: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:23:56 GMT, Cubit <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Sometimes satiation needs a few minutes. A lot of food can be
::: eaten in those few minutes. For me, I have one ounce of cheese or
::: low carb ice cream
::: and wait ten minutes. If still hungry, I would have another ounce,
::: but usually, after the ten minutes, I no longer want food. The
::: satiating effect
::: generally holds for 1.5 hours. Eating ice cream out of the carton
::: until full is disaster. The portion should be dished into a bowl
::: and the carton
::: put away before having the one ounce. The ounce should be measured
::: with a
::: scale. Exercise self control for ten minutes before judging the
::: results.
:::
::: You say you are not satisfied with cheese, so you need to
::: experiment to find
::: out what low carb food does give you satiation with a small portion.
:::
::: Consider having tiny frequent meals instead of large meals.
:::
::: If your cravings are carb cravings, try taking about ten grams of
::: L-Glutamine and see if your craving goes away. It doesn't work for
::: everyone, but is very effective for others. You can buy
::: L-Glutamine at GNC
::: and similar places. Ten grams at a time can get expensive, so, if
::: it works, you may want to experiment with doses to find the minimal
::: effective
::: dose....
:::
:::
::: YMMV
::: Cubit
::: 311/199/165
:::
:::
::
:: I used to take several grams of L-G, and I did at the time find it
:: somewhat helpful.
::

Same here. You can buy it is several pound containers, too, so it's not
that
expensive.

::
::
:: --
:: Bob in CT

You didn't mention salad greens in your meal- you really need to keep a full
bowl of greens ready to eat. 3 cups of greens is very filling. use your own
oil and vinegar - sprinkle splenda on your salad- its great!!

--
Diane

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Minimalist backstory: Lurker for years and years, several failed
attempts at Atkins over the last ten years or so. 33 yo female,
~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese family. Not
experiencing PMS or on any medications. Moderate activity level.

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My problem is I am getting awful, awful cravings starting about an
hour after dinner and pretty much sticking around for the whole night.

It really doesn't make any sense to me. Dinner is always very
straightforward. Last night was roast pork tenderloin and some
broccoli with real butter. So why the massive cravings an hour later?
Isn't that what *carbs* are supposed to do to you? (Lunch was roast
beef rolled with swiss cheese, for those feeling detective-y.)

The cravings are fairly sugar-specific, my brain conjures up images of
chocolate and whatnot, but at the time it also feels like walnuts or
berries or even tea with Splenda would kill it. All of which I am
trying to avoid during Inductin, and anyway I feel like giving into
these cravings is going to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't it? Opinions
welcome here--try to ignore the cravings, or give in with the
borderline-legal foods above? The cravings are bad enough that portion
control is a potential issue also.

I don't think eating more meat or cheese is the answer, as I find
these things are not the magic craving/hunger-killers for me they are
supposed to be.

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Thanks in advance.

Hi Keelie,
I'm into my 1st week of induction as well (again ...sigh)
I tend to either get a big glass of water and then brush my teeth with
extra
minty toothpaste - seems to break the craving - water always makes me feel
bloated so I lose the hunger 🙂
Elise
180/178/140

Eat slower. Much slower. And do a lot more exercise.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"keelie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Minimalist backstory: Lurker for years and years, several failed
attempts at Atkins over the last ten years or so. 33 yo female,
~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese family. Not
experiencing PMS or on any medications. Moderate activity level.

A little older now, vaguely more focused, have actually stuck to
by-the-book Induction for one week now, which is a huge success for
me. I don't know how much weight I've lost; I'm a very slow loser so I
have to stay away from the scale or I get very discouraged. Clothes
are looser.

So anyway, it's been a week. Meat, fresh veggies, some cheese here and
there (had big cheese problems in the past--trying to keep it way
down). Going for a very 'keep it simple, stupid' approach, not playing
with any complex recipes or low carb 'products'.

My problem is I am getting awful, awful cravings starting about an
hour after dinner and pretty much sticking around for the whole night.

It really doesn't make any sense to me. Dinner is always very
straightforward. Last night was roast pork tenderloin and some
broccoli with real butter. So why the massive cravings an hour later?
Isn't that what *carbs* are supposed to do to you? (Lunch was roast
beef rolled with swiss cheese, for those feeling detective-y.)

The cravings are fairly sugar-specific, my brain conjures up images of
chocolate and whatnot, but at the time it also feels like walnuts or
berries or even tea with Splenda would kill it. All of which I am
trying to avoid during Inductin, and anyway I feel like giving into
these cravings is going to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't it? Opinions
welcome here--try to ignore the cravings, or give in with the
borderline-legal foods above? The cravings are bad enough that portion
control is a potential issue also.

I don't think eating more meat or cheese is the answer, as I find
these things are not the magic craving/hunger-killers for me they are
supposed to be.

33 yo female, ~50lbs overweight, lifelong weight problems, obese
family. Not experiencing PMS or on any medications. Just trying to
brainstorm what this is. It's been a full week, shouldn't a lot of the
sugar addiction be out of my system by now? It's never been my primary
food problem, and I've been keeping the sucralose to absolute minimum.

Thanks in advance.

diane said:

You didn't mention salad greens in your meal- you really need to keep a full
bowl of greens ready to eat. 3 cups of greens is very filling. use your own
oil and vinegar - sprinkle splenda on your salad- its great!!

Why would you sprinkle splenda on a salad? That does not make *any*
sense to me.

diane said:

You didn't mention salad greens in your meal- you really need to keep a full
bowl of greens ready to eat. 3 cups of greens is very filling. use your own
oil and vinegar - sprinkle splenda on your salad- its great!!

Why would you sprinkle splenda on a salad? That does not make *any*
sense to me.

I knew it would sound weird, but it isn't if you like honey Dijon dressings.
Many salad dressings have sugar or fructose in them. Balsamic vinegar is
loaded with sugar, so this is my substitute. Make your own dressing and you
know exactly what's in it.

I was working with my daily salad and it just wasn't what I wanted- so I
tried this. I now make a classic dressing of
1/4 c vinegar 1 tsp Dijon mustard, 1 packet spenda or stevia, salt &
pepper, 1 slice red onion chopped fine ( or 1 green onion). stir till
blended then stir in 3/4 c oil briskly. The mustard keeps the oil and
vinegar from separating. You can vary this formula to your own taste

a pinch of almond slices ( my croutons) on top of good greens and you have a
salad you can have anytime.

Who would think of a salad for a sweet tooth! I've been through more produce
this year. --
Diane

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diane said:

You didn't mention salad greens in your meal- you really need to keep a
full
bowl of greens ready to eat. 3 cups of greens is very filling. use your
own
oil and vinegar - sprinkle splenda on your salad- its great!!

Why would you sprinkle splenda on a salad? That does not make *any*
sense to me.