In Their Own Words

I'm reminded of an interview with Finnish nordic skier Virpi
Kuitunen immediatly after she won the first half of the
pursuit at World Championships in Lahti, in which the
reporter asked her about doping on the Finnish men's team
(they had just been busted) and she said "That's got nothing
to do with me."

JT

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is clear
that the boys and girls are spitting in and spoiling their
pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be fully suspended at
the pro level for the 2005 season to allow all of these
people, from the UCI on down the food chain to the
soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on what they are in the
process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will have a
positive effect. Why, it's practically guarranteed to clear
up the whole thing and sponsors will flock to cycling as a
monument to clean, fair sportsmanship! Trusting law officers
and courts to clean this mess up, along with assistance from
UCI and WADA is clearly accomplishing nothing. Police and
detective work, along with rules and laws are probably even
more responsible for the continuing use of doping than the
pressures of making it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

*sniffle*

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<z7W-
[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

David. M. 1/21/04 BBC Sport:

"All I can say is that it's not a Cofidis problem, and
it's certainly got nothing to do with me," said the world
time trial champion.

Sylvain Chavanel in CyclingNews

"In the Cofidis affair, it's three riders who were
trafficking," he added. "Cycling today doesn't earn the
same treatment as other sports. When someone like John
McEnroe admits to doping, it gets a day of coverage. Does
someone like Rutkiewicz, who barely anyone knew, deserve
months of headlines?"

Chris Hoy in CyclingNews:

"Some people don't just suspect we might be on drugs, they
assume we are.

"Road and track cycling are like two separate sports and
we don't have the same problems," he added. "I can put my
hand on my heart and say I've never taken drugs."

Lance Armstrong in CyclingNews:

"I've said it before and I will repeat it: I believe that
I am the most tested athlete on this planet, I have never
had a single positive doping test, and I do not take
performance enhancing drugs.

"Every sport has doping problems. Cycling is certainly a
sport that has had problems. But who can deny that we have
cleaned it up?...The Tour de France is one of the most
controlled sports events in the world."

Belda in CyclingNews:

"Manzano is not speaking the truth. Our lawyers are
looking into this. It makes me sick to hear what Manzano
is spreading. It casts doubt on the entire peloton."

Belda added, "It's clear that doping exists in all sports,
but not all sportsmen are dopers or drug addicts as
[Manzano] insinuates."

UCI speaks in CyclingNews:

"Since the beginning of the year, cycling has been the
focus of numerous attacks which have severely prejudiced
the image of our sport and the honour of its
participants," said a UCI statement, quoted in l'Equipe.

Calling Manzano a rider "not beyond reproach," the UCI
regretted the continued practice of doping in the peloton
but asserted that the majority of riders are clean, citing
a figure that blood tests show more than 90% of the
peloton to be clean.

Hein Vergruggen in CyclingNews:

"Those who are clean need to talk, to let themselves be
heard and to unite," Verbruggen said. "When the best
cyclist in the world says 'I'm clean', that carries a lot
of weight. This message gives Armstrong a new
responsibility vis-a-vis the other riders.

"[Armstrong] has a moral responsibility since finding
unity among the riders is not an easy task," Verbruggen
added. "He's a smart guy. He can see his sport is
suffering."

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and spoiling
their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be fully
suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to allow
all of these people, from the UCI on down the food chain
to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on what they
are in the process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will have
a positive effect. Why, it's practically guarranteed to
clear up the whole thing and sponsors will flock to
cycling as a monument to clean, fair sportsmanship!
Trusting law officers and courts to clean this mess up,
along with assistance from UCI and WADA is clearly
accomplishing nothing. Police and detective work, along
with rules and laws are probably even more responsible for
the continuing use of doping than the pressures of making
it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

*sniffle*

Try to relax until your meds kick in.

B. Lafferty said:

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and spoiling
their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be fully
suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to allow
all of these people, from the UCI on down the food chain
to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on what they
are in the process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will have
a positive effect. Why, it's practically guarranteed to
clear up the whole thing and sponsors will flock to
cycling as a monument to clean, fair sportsmanship!
Trusting law officers and courts to clean this mess up,
along with assistance from UCI and WADA is clearly
accomplishing nothing. Police and detective work, along
with rules and laws are probably even more responsible for
the continuing use of doping than the pressures of making
it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

*sniffle*

Try to relax until your meds kick in.

Meds? Didn't get the package. What were you sending, same
thing you're on?

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I'm reminded of an interview with Finnish nordic skier
Virpi Kuitunen immediatly after she won the first half of
the pursuit at World Championships in Lahti, in which the
reporter asked her about doping on the Finnish men's team
(they had just been busted) and she said "That's got
nothing to do with me."

JT

It is a bit like the old "have you stopped beating your
wife, yet" question. Being asked such a question, no matter
how you answer, brings taint.

On 25 Jun 2004 21:15:18 EDT, Richard Adams <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I'm reminded of an interview with Finnish nordic skier
Virpi Kuitunen immediatly after she won the first half of
the pursuit at World Championships in Lahti, in which the
reporter asked her about doping on the Finnish men's team
(they had just been busted) and she said "That's got
nothing to do with me."

JT

It is a bit like the old "have you stopped beating your
wife, yet" question. Being asked such a question, no matter
how you answer, brings taint.

Right. Though she was shown a few days later to have been
doping regularly...

JT

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

B. Lafferty said:

Try to relax until your meds kick in.

Meds? Didn't get the package. What were you sending, same
thing you're

on?

Quoted message said:

Err, wouldn't that be considered trafficking?

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote...

Quoted message said:

Richard Adams said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

the reporter asked her about doping on the Finnish
men's team (they had just been busted) and she said
"That's got nothing to do with me."

JT

It is a bit like the old "have you stopped beating your
wife, yet" question. Being asked such a question, no
matter how you answer, brings taint.

Right. Though she was shown a few days later to have been
doping regularly...

So you expected her to say something different?

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Richard Adams) said:

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and spoiling
their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be fully
suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to allow
all of these people, from the UCI on down the food chain
to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on what they
are in the process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will have
a positive effect. Why, it's practically guarranteed to
clear up the whole thing and sponsors will flock to
cycling as a monument to clean, fair sportsmanship!
Trusting law officers and courts to clean this mess up,
along with assistance from UCI and WADA is clearly
accomplishing nothing. Police and detective work, along
with rules and laws are probably even more responsible for
the continuing use of doping than the pressures of making
it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

You don't have the feet-in pajamas, too? Damn.

--
tanx, Howard

"The fickleness of fame and fortune's
caprice Together changed the life of Mason
Reese" Alice Donut

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote...

Quoted message said:

Richard Adams said:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

> the reporter asked her about doping on the Finnish
> men's team (they had just been busted) and she said
> "That's got nothing to do with me."
>
> JT

It is a bit like the old "have you stopped beating your
wife, yet" question. Being asked such a question, no
matter how you answer,

brings

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

taint.

Right. Though she was shown a few days later to have
been doping regularly...

So you expected her to say something different?

I would have.

Howard Kveck said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

(Richard Adams) said:

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and spoiling
their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be fully
suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to allow
all of these people, from the UCI on down the food chain
to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on what they
are in the process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will have
a positive effect. Why, it's practically guarranteed to
clear up the whole thing and sponsors will flock to
cycling as a monument to clean, fair sportsmanship!
Trusting law officers and courts to clean this mess up,
along with assistance from UCI and WADA is clearly
accomplishing nothing. Police and detective work, along
with rules and laws are probably even more responsible for
the continuing use of doping than the pressures of making
it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

You don't have the feet-in pajamas, too? Damn.

Those are Alfred E. Neuman "What Me Worry?" issue, though I
must admit Alfred bears a striking resemblence to the
president.

Richard Adams said:

Howard Kveck said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

(Richard Adams) said:

From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:

Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and
spoiling their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be
fully suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to
allow all of these people, from the UCI on down the food
chain to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on
what they are in the process of destroying.

Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts

Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will
have a positive effect. Why, it's practically
guarranteed to clear up the whole thing and sponsors
will flock to cycling as a monument to clean, fair
sportsmanship! Trusting law officers and courts to clean
this mess up, along with assistance from UCI and WADA is
clearly accomplishing nothing. Police and detective
work, along with rules and laws are probably even more
responsible for the continuing use of doping than the
pressures of making it at the elite level of a sport.

Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
pillow cases.

You don't have the feet-in pajamas, too? Damn.

Those are Alfred E. Neuman "What Me Worry?" issue, though
I must admit Alfred bears a striking resemblence to the
president.

internetweekly.orgcartoon bush 2Open ↗
004_poster.html

Quoted message said:

"Those who are clean need to talk, to let themselves be
heard and to unite," Verbruggen said.

Guess why nobody is talking...

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:z7WC-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

David. M. 1/21/04 BBC Sport:

"All I can say is that it's not a Cofidis problem, and
it's certainly got nothing to do with me," said the world
time trial champion.

Sylvain Chavanel in CyclingNews

"In the Cofidis affair, it's three riders who were
trafficking," he added. "Cycling today doesn't earn the
same treatment as other sports. When someone like John
McEnroe admits to doping, it gets a day of coverage. Does
someone like Rutkiewicz, who barely anyone knew, deserve
months of headlines?"

Chris Hoy in CyclingNews:

"Some people don't just suspect we might be on drugs, they
assume we are.

"Road and track cycling are like two separate sports and
we don't have the same problems," he added. "I can put my
hand on my heart and say I've never taken drugs."

Lance Armstrong in CyclingNews:

"I've said it before and I will repeat it: I believe that
I am the most tested athlete on this planet, I have never
had a single positive doping test, and I do not take
performance enhancing drugs.

"Every sport has doping problems. Cycling is certainly a
sport that has had problems. But who can deny that we have
cleaned it up?...The Tour de France is one of the most
controlled sports events in the world."

Belda in CyclingNews:

"Manzano is not speaking the truth. Our lawyers are
looking into this. It makes me sick to hear what Manzano
is spreading. It casts doubt on the entire peloton."

Belda added, "It's clear that doping exists in all sports,
but not all sportsmen are dopers or drug addicts as
[Manzano] insinuates."

UCI speaks in CyclingNews:

"Since the beginning of the year, cycling has been the
focus of numerous attacks which have severely prejudiced
the image of our sport and the honour of its
participants," said a UCI statement, quoted in l'Equipe.

Calling Manzano a rider "not beyond reproach," the UCI
regretted the continued practice of doping in the peloton
but asserted that the majority of riders are clean, citing
a figure that blood tests show more than 90% of the
peloton to be clean.

Hein Vergruggen in CyclingNews:

"Those who are clean need to talk, to let themselves be
heard and to unite," Verbruggen said. "When the best
cyclist in the world says 'I'm clean', that carries a lot
of weight. This message gives Armstrong a new
responsibility vis-a-vis the other riders.

"[Armstrong] has a moral responsibility since finding
unity among the riders is not an easy task," Verbruggen
added. "He's a smart guy. He can see his sport is
suffering."

Robert Chung said:

Richard Adams said:

Howard Kveck said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote:

>From VN Friday, June 25 mailbag:
>
>Let's call the whole thing off... Editors, With all the
>revelations as to drug use in cycling this year, it is
>clear that the boys and girls are spitting in and
>spoiling their pot of soup. I suggest that the sport be
>fully suspended at the pro level for the 2005 season to
>allow all of these people, from the UCI on down the food
>chain to the soigneurs, an opportunity to reflect on
>what they are in the process of destroying.
>
>Brian Lafferty Longmeadow, Massachusetts
>
>
>Yeah, shutting down the entire sport for a year will
>have a positive effect. Why, it's practically
>guarranteed to clear up the whole thing and sponsors
>will flock to cycling as a monument to clean, fair
>sportsmanship! Trusting law officers and courts to clean
>this mess up, along with assistance from UCI and WADA is
>clearly accomplishing nothing. Police and detective
>work, along with rules and laws are probably even more
>responsible for the continuing use of doping than the
>pressures of making it at the elite level of a sport.
>
>Now if you'll excuse me, after hearing the news of David
>being banned from the TdF, I need to go cry my eyes out
>on my bed, with the David Millar/Cofidis sheets and
>pillow cases.

You don't have the feet-in pajamas, too? Damn.

Those are Alfred E. Neuman "What Me Worry?" issue, though
I must admit Alfred bears a striking resemblence to the
president.

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"Richard Adams" wrote...

Quoted message said:

Those are Alfred E. Neuman "What Me Worry?" issue, though
I must admit Alfred bears a striking resemblence to the
president.

He looked way more like Reagan (although that other guy's
shot is pretty good).

JF

Here's one of my favorites:

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