impressive time trial results

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest times were
a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can sustain nearly 30
mph for that long, especially as there was a slight headwind on the return
leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do 20mph at times.

When you hit a nice downhill section and the speed begins to build up
and you stop pedalling, get into your aero tuck and enjoy the ride,
that's the speed the top riders are sustaining the whole time over a
10 or 25. :-)

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Dave...

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest times were
a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can sustain nearly 30
mph for that long, especially as there was a slight headwind on the return
leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do 20mph at times.

Adam

A colleague of mine once tried to run at the same speed as Paula
Radcliffe, as she passed by during the London Marathon. He was able to
keep pace at his "full sprint" for a few hundred yards - that was it.
She kept it up for a couple of hours.

There's what we can do - and then there's what the *really* fast people
can do. We're not in the same league...

Chris

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest times were
a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can sustain nearly 30
mph for that long, especially as there was a slight headwind on the return
leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do 20mph at times.

And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?
Getting below 20 minutes is bloody good, going nearly 2 minutes faster
is exceptional.
Alan.

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Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held
on the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest
times were a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can
sustain nearly 30 mph for that long, especially as there was a slight
headwind on the return leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do
20mph at times.

And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?

I really, really, really don't need to know that. It makes me feel
so /bloody/ inadequate.

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Simon Brooke said:

Quoted message said:

And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?

I really, really, really don't need to know that. It makes me feel
so /bloody/ inadequate.

Pete Longbottom (ex-international, sadly killed a few years back)
did 17.xx in a club event. It didn't count for the record as it
was't an open TT.

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Simon Brooke said:

Quoted message said:

And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?

I really, really, really don't need to know that. It makes me feel
so /bloody/ inadequate.

Pete Longbottom (ex-international, sadly killed a few years back)
did 17.xx in a club event. It didn't count for the record as it
was't an open TT.

La la la la... Not listening! Not listening!

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Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest times were
a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can sustain nearly 30
mph for that long, especially as there was a slight headwind on the return
leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do 20mph at times.

Adam

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

The other view point said:

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway.

Quoted message said:

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

Yes.
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Phil Cook said:

The other view point said:

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway.

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

Which?

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Phil Cook said:

The other view point said:

On 23 Jun, 19:14, "Adam Lea" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial
> held on the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway.
Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

Which?

In Scotland, police.

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Simon Brooke said:

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(') said:

Simon Brooke said:

> And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?

I really, really, really don't need to know that. It makes me feel
so /bloody/ inadequate.

Pete Longbottom (ex-international, sadly killed a few years back)
did 17.xx in a club event. It didn't count for the record as it
was't an open TT.

La la la la... Not listening! Not listening!

It is currently held by a certain B Wiggins OBE at 17:58

Have a look here http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?
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Simon Brooke said:

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Simon Brooke said:

> And isnt the UK record something like 18:11?

I really, really, really don't need to know that. It makes me feel
so /bloody/ inadequate.

Pete Longbottom (ex-international, sadly killed a few years back)
did 17.xx in a club event. It didn't count for the record as it
was't an open TT.

La la la la... Not listening! Not listening!

This is the record for open events.
<http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=1>

I know that a few different riders have beaten 18 mins on the course
used for local club events.

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Quoted message said:

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway. Just found out the fastest times were
a little over 20 minutes. I am amazed that some people can sustain nearly 30
mph for that long, especially as there was a slight headwind on the return
leg. When I cycled back I was struggling to do 20mph at times.

Quoted message said:

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

The Police needed to confirm that it was OK to use the Course when I
organised one around 6 years ago.
There are already a list of courses for the various regions, and
supposedly they are checked every year or so by the local Police to make
sure they are not overly hazardhous. A letter to the Police asking to
use that course on a particular day is usually confirmed, but only at
certian times, i.e. many courses can only be used in an evening after
7pm, or a Saturday afternoon, or Sunday morning.
Many have time restrictions in place, so all riders have to be off the
road by 10am, or cannot start until 2pm etc.
The threat to many TT courses recently has been the proliferation of
traffic lights and roundabouts.
Usually a TT cannot be held on a course with lights, as it will give an
advantage/disadvantage to some riders. Roundabouts can also make the
course more hazardhous, and impede progress, so are avoided as much as
possible, apart from at the 'turn', half way along an 'out and back'
course.
Alan.

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Andrew Templeman said:

This is the record for open events.
<http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=1>

I know that a few different riders have beaten 18 mins on the course
used for local club events.

I'm not sure that they actually have.
If anyone beats 18 mins, they would be TT champ, or at least in the top
5.
More likely the course is not actually 10 miles. I know one I used to
ride was booked as 8 miles, but the only checking on the length was when
the organiser went round in his Morris Minor, checking the speedo at
start and finish.
If the results we got were confirmed at 8.5 miles, half of the Club
would be in the British top 10 all time bests! It was more like 7.9
miles.
Alan.

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Andrew Templeman said:

This is the record for open events.
<http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=1>

I know that a few different riders have beaten 18 mins on the course
used for local club events.

I seem to remember that 10 miles didn't merit a record in the fifties.
Am I right? I do know that several in our club had done very short 20's
in the late fifties because they had beaten me regularly (although I was
still a junior).

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The other view point said:

Adam Lea said:

Spent this morning being a marshall for the 10 mile open time trial held
on
the Horsham-Crawley dual carriageway.

Quoted message said:

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

Yes.

Not strictly true. You have to *notify* the police, but you don't have to
get clearance from council or highways department. Time trials are different
to road races. Under the Road Traffic Act police need at least 28 days clear
notice of a time trial. If you give less notice, *then* they can refuse
permission or impose special conditions.

The other view point said:

Out of curiosity, when you have these time trials on public roads, do
you have to get clearance, police, council, highway department?

Unless things have changed since I organised events, you have to notify the
police at least four weeks before any event and they can then respond with a yay,
a nay or can impose conditions. If they do not respond then the event may
proceed. It is also sensible to check with the local highways authority to ensure
that the road is not beset by road works or other 'obstacles'.

Whether you agree or not that racing on the open road is safe or responsible is
another matter.

John B

A.Lee alan@darkroom.+.com said:

Andrew Templeman said:

This is the record for open events.
<http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=1>

I know that a few different riders have beaten 18 mins on the course
used for local club events.

I'm not sure that they actually have.
If anyone beats 18 mins, they would be TT champ, or at least in the top
5.

It is a proper 10 course; the riders are Chris Boardman and Steve
Cummings. It might also have been the one where Pete Longbottom beat 18
mins; I know he rode round here when he was with the North Wirral Velo.

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Quoted message said:

Whether you agree or not that racing on the open road is safe or
responsible is another matter.

For racing, substitute "doing 20-30mph in a 60 limit" 😉