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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh

  2. bdbafh said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh

    Lab rats are dopers. It's just soooo obvious!

  3. Lance IS a mouse!

    "bdbafh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh

  4. bdbafh said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh


    A couple of old NYTimes articles on animal athletes.

    Pronghorn's Speed May Be Legacy of Past Predators
    http://tinyurl.com/2s6fh5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E0D71031F937A15751C1A960958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    Animals That Are Peerless Athletes
    http://tinyurl.com/2ktop5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1D91F3AF932A35755C0A965958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    An interesting quote from the above article -
    ...................................................
    But horses, like many other mammals with great aerobic capacity, do have
    a skill that humans lack. When horses begin running, their spleens
    contract and spew out large volumes of red blood cells, the cells that
    carry oxygen. "It's a huge effect," said Dr. Wagner. "Within 75 seconds,
    the number of circulating red blood cells doubles." The only way humans
    can increase their red blood cell concentration is to inject more cells,
    a trick called blood doping, in which a person injects himself with his
    own or another's blood right before a race. The practice can indeed
    improve performance, but it is illegal in most sporting events.
    ...................................................

    After seeing the Times story on the pronghorn I did a search and found
    this anecdote -
    http://tinyurl.com/2dpghw
    http://www3.cesa10.k12.wi.us/Ecosystems/prairies/animals/phorn/Pronghorn.htm
    ...................................................
    The pronghorn loves to play. It likes racing with moving objects.
    People who drive cars through pronghorn country are often suprised when
    a group of pronghorns suddenly appear from behind a low hill and start
    running beside the car. Faster and faster the animals bound along,
    trying to stay ahead of the car. All at once the animals will put on a
    bu[r]st of speed. They will cut across the road in front of the car!
    Once the pronghorns have crossed the road, they seem to feel the race is
    over. They will stop and stare at the car and driver, looking pleased
    with themselves.
    ...................................................

  5. "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:9mNWi.36$bm.14@trndny08...

    Quoted message said:


    After seeing the Times story on the pronghorn I did a search and found
    this anecdote -
    http://tinyurl.com/2dpghw
    http://www3.cesa10.k12.wi.us/Ecosystems/prairies/animals/phorn/Pronghorn.htm
    ..................................................
    The pronghorn loves to play. It likes racing with moving objects. People
    who drive cars through pronghorn country are often suprised when a group
    of pronghorns suddenly appear from behind a low hill and start running
    beside the car. Faster and faster the animals bound along, trying to stay
    ahead of the car. All at once the animals will put on a bu[r]st of speed.
    They will cut across the road in front of the car! Once the pronghorns
    have crossed the road, they seem to feel the race is over. They will stop
    and stare at the car and driver, looking pleased with themselves.

    Sounds like a dangerous game. I wonder how many pronghorns have ended up as
    Dodge Ram hood ornaments?..............................

  6. Caroline said:

    "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:9mNWi.36$bm.14@trndny08...

    Quoted message said:

    After seeing the Times story on the pronghorn I did a search and found
    this anecdote -
    http://tinyurl.com/2dpghw
    http://www3.cesa10.k12.wi.us/Ecosystems/prairies/animals/phorn/Pronghorn.htm
    ..................................................
    The pronghorn loves to play. It likes racing with moving objects. People
    who drive cars through pronghorn country are often suprised when a group
    of pronghorns suddenly appear from behind a low hill and start running
    beside the car. Faster and faster the animals bound along, trying to stay
    ahead of the car. All at once the animals will put on a bu[r]st of speed.
    They will cut across the road in front of the car! Once the pronghorns
    have crossed the road, they seem to feel the race is over. They will stop
    and stare at the car and driver, looking pleased with themselves.

    Sounds like a dangerous game. I wonder how many pronghorns have ended up as
    Dodge Ram hood ornaments?..............................


    Pronghorn were once as numerous as buffalo (tens of millions on the
    American prairie), living a symbiotic existence with them. They shared
    the same fate too, being the object of mass slaughter. I think the
    occasional car racing is the least of their dangers.
    http://www.antelope.org/pronghorn1.htm

  7. "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:mn3Xi.394$It.258@trndny06...

    Quoted message said:


    Pronghorn were once as numerous as buffalo (tens of millions on the
    American prairie), living a symbiotic existence with them. They shared the
    same fate too, being the object of mass slaughter. I think the occasional
    car racing is the least of their dangers.
    http://www.antelope.org/pronghorn1.htm

    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

  8. "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:mn3Xi.394$It.258@trndny06...

    Quoted message said:


    Pronghorn were once as numerous as buffalo (tens of millions on the
    American prairie), living a symbiotic existence with them. They shared the
    same fate too, being the object of mass slaughter. I think the occasional
    car racing is the least of their dangers.
    http://www.antelope.org/pronghorn1.htm

    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

  9. "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:mn3Xi.394$It.258@trndny06...

    Quoted message said:


    Pronghorn were once as numerous as buffalo (tens of millions on the
    American prairie), living a symbiotic existence with them. They shared the
    same fate too, being the object of mass slaughter. I think the occasional
    car racing is the least of their dangers.
    http://www.antelope.org/pronghorn1.htm

    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

  10. "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:mn3Xi.394$It.258@trndny06...

    Quoted message said:


    Pronghorn were once as numerous as buffalo (tens of millions on the
    American prairie), living a symbiotic existence with them. They shared the
    same fate too, being the object of mass slaughter. I think the occasional
    car racing is the least of their dangers.
    http://www.antelope.org/pronghorn1.htm

    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

  11. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    Hey Tom
    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?
    Bill C

  12. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    Hey Tom
    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?
    Bill C

  13. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    Hey Tom
    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?
    Bill C

  14. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    Hey Tom
    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?
    Bill C

  15. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of
    the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?

    The animal shelters being operated by PETA were killing 2-3 times as many
    animals as the public shelters. That tells you a whole lot about the morals
    and principles of PETA.

    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/vick_press_release.cfm

    More PETA data:

    In 2005 PETA animal shelters killed 91% of the animals they received and
    adopted out less than 7%.

    PETA are nothing more than people taking money from the public under false
    pretenses and all of their advertisements are meant only to bring more money
    into their coffers.

  16. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of
    the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?

    The animal shelters being operated by PETA were killing 2-3 times as many
    animals as the public shelters. That tells you a whole lot about the morals
    and principles of PETA.

    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/vick_press_release.cfm

    More PETA data:

    In 2005 PETA animal shelters killed 91% of the animals they received and
    adopted out less than 7%.

    PETA are nothing more than people taking money from the public under false
    pretenses and all of their advertisements are meant only to bring more money
    into their coffers.

  17. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of
    the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?

    The animal shelters being operated by PETA were killing 2-3 times as many
    animals as the public shelters. That tells you a whole lot about the morals
    and principles of PETA.

    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/vick_press_release.cfm

    More PETA data:

    In 2005 PETA animal shelters killed 91% of the animals they received and
    adopted out less than 7%.

    PETA are nothing more than people taking money from the public under false
    pretenses and all of their advertisements are meant only to bring more money
    into their coffers.

  18. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    I don't believe that the Pronghorns were ever even close to the size of
    the
    Buffalo herds and if you haven't been through the western plains you
    probably wouldn't realize the huge herds of pronghorns that are present.

    You do know that PETA really is an acronym for People Eating Tasty
    Animals, right?

    The animal shelters being operated by PETA were killing 2-3 times as many
    animals as the public shelters. That tells you a whole lot about the morals
    and principles of PETA.

    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/vick_press_release.cfm

    More PETA data:

    In 2005 PETA animal shelters killed 91% of the animals they received and
    adopted out less than 7%.

    PETA are nothing more than people taking money from the public under false
    pretenses and all of their advertisements are meant only to bring more money
    into their coffers.

  19. maybe armstrong is a pronghorn, instead of a longhorn or a mouse

    "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:9mNWi.36$bm.14@trndny08...

    Quoted message said:
    bdbafh said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh


    A couple of old NYTimes articles on animal athletes.

    Pronghorn's Speed May Be Legacy of Past Predators
    http://tinyurl.com/2s6fh5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E0D71031F937A15751C1A960958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    Animals That Are Peerless Athletes
    http://tinyurl.com/2ktop5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1D91F3AF932A35755C0A965958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    An interesting quote from the above article -
    ..................................................
    But horses, like many other mammals with great aerobic capacity, do have a
    skill that humans lack. When horses begin running, their spleens contract
    and spew out large volumes of red blood cells, the cells that carry
    oxygen. "It's a huge effect," said Dr. Wagner. "Within 75 seconds, the
    number of circulating red blood cells doubles." The only way humans can
    increase their red blood cell concentration is to inject more cells, a
    trick called blood doping, in which a person injects himself with his own
    or another's blood right before a race. The practice can indeed improve
    performance, but it is illegal in most sporting events.
    ..................................................

    After seeing the Times story on the pronghorn I did a search and found
    this anecdote -
    http://tinyurl.com/2dpghw
    http://www3.cesa10.k12.wi.us/Ecosystems/prairies/animals/phorn/Pronghorn.htm
    ..................................................
    The pronghorn loves to play. It likes racing with moving objects. People
    who drive cars through pronghorn country are often suprised when a group
    of pronghorns suddenly appear from behind a low hill and start running
    beside the car. Faster and faster the animals bound along, trying to stay
    ahead of the car. All at once the animals will put on a bu[r]st of speed.
    They will cut across the road in front of the car! Once the pronghorns
    have crossed the road, they seem to feel the race is over. They will stop
    and stare at the car and driver, looking pleased with themselves.
    ..................................................

  20. maybe armstrong is a pronghorn, instead of a longhorn or a mouse

    "MkTm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:9mNWi.36$bm.14@trndny08...

    Quoted message said:
    bdbafh said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7074831.stm

    "The GM rodents can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters
    per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping.

    Mouse treadmill (Case Western Reserve University)
    The performance was tested on rodent treadmills
    "They are metabolically similar to Lance Armstrong biking up the
    Pyrenees; they utilise mainly fatty acids for energy and produce very
    little lactic acid," said Professor Richard Hanson, the senior author
    on the journal article. "

    -bdbafh


    A couple of old NYTimes articles on animal athletes.

    Pronghorn's Speed May Be Legacy of Past Predators
    http://tinyurl.com/2s6fh5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E0D71031F937A15751C1A960958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    Animals That Are Peerless Athletes
    http://tinyurl.com/2ktop5
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1D91F3AF932A35755C0A965958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    An interesting quote from the above article -
    ..................................................
    But horses, like many other mammals with great aerobic capacity, do have a
    skill that humans lack. When horses begin running, their spleens contract
    and spew out large volumes of red blood cells, the cells that carry
    oxygen. "It's a huge effect," said Dr. Wagner. "Within 75 seconds, the
    number of circulating red blood cells doubles." The only way humans can
    increase their red blood cell concentration is to inject more cells, a
    trick called blood doping, in which a person injects himself with his own
    or another's blood right before a race. The practice can indeed improve
    performance, but it is illegal in most sporting events.
    ..................................................

    After seeing the Times story on the pronghorn I did a search and found
    this anecdote -
    http://tinyurl.com/2dpghw
    http://www3.cesa10.k12.wi.us/Ecosystems/prairies/animals/phorn/Pronghorn.htm
    ..................................................
    The pronghorn loves to play. It likes racing with moving objects. People
    who drive cars through pronghorn country are often suprised when a group
    of pronghorns suddenly appear from behind a low hill and start running
    beside the car. Faster and faster the animals bound along, trying to stay
    ahead of the car. All at once the animals will put on a bu[r]st of speed.
    They will cut across the road in front of the car! Once the pronghorns
    have crossed the road, they seem to feel the race is over. They will stop
    and stare at the car and driver, looking pleased with themselves.
    ..................................................

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