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  1. I went looking through the archives of this list but didn't find any
    references to this question:

    As I am learning to idle with the right foot lower than the left, I keep
    creeping to the right and eventually have to bail. I can get maybe 5 to
    7 repetitions before the inevitable UPD. What am I doing wrong...or
    what can I do to improve this situation? I have seen some of the videos
    (by Andrew Carter?) recently posted and they helped a lot in watching
    someone idle. If you have any suggestions or can point me towards a
    thread that addresses this, I would be most appreciative.

    Thanks!

    Phil

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  2. Quoted message said:

    I keep creeping to the right...what am I doing wrong?


    You're not keeping the wheel underneath you 🙂. Sorry to state the
    obvious but you always should be thinking of this. To keep it where you
    want you often have to really aggressively yank your hips around (right
    before moving forwards, left before moving backwards in your case).

    It's important that you twist at the hips either before moving or at the
    very beginning of the forwards or backwards movement, otherwise you'll
    end up just idling in annoying archs and returning to the same spot.
    Remember to keep your arms out wide and use them when twisting at the
    hips. When you twist you hips right, your arms should push (twist)
    anti-clockwise to help make the twist and to keep your body where you
    want it.

    I hope that helps a little, I'm not sure what else to say other than
    maybe try putting more weight on the seat rather than that right pedal.
    That may stop the right movement you've got happening, not sure.

    Good luck,
    Andrew

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  3. Phuni said:

    As I am learning to idle with the right foot lower than the left, I keep
    creeping to the right and eventually have to bail. I can get maybe 5 to
    7 repetitions before the inevitable UPD. What am I doing wrong...or
    what can I do to improve this situation?

    I have three suggestions:

    1. Practice.

    2. Practice more.

    3. Repeat steps 1 and 2.

    I know it takes a lot of work to get to the point where you can
    occasionally idle a half dozen times, but it still takes a long time
    to get modestly proficient from that point. At least for me it did.
    I also found that it wasn't worth fighting some of the sideways creep.
    Trying to correct to stay in place was significantly harder than just
    drifting, and I felt more progress by gaining repetitions rather than
    fine control at that point.

    Ken

  4. ken's pretty much got it down
    something that helped me get past that was to imagine that the wheel is
    drawing a 'gear-gate' on the groud as opposed to drawing a flower
    😕 ?
    quite often, at the beginning of learning the idle, the wheel goes out
    and comes back to the same point
    as u start leaning or drifting to one side, u slowly start turning
    around and it's as if u're drawing a flower on the ground with the wheel
    constantly returning to the same place but going a lil' to the right of
    where is was the last time on the way out

    if u find that the wheel is going slightly futher to the right than on
    the previous stroke of the idle, make sure u adjust your backward travel
    to ensure that the wheel travels parrallel to the previous stroke

    hell, that's confusing
    go back to watching someone idle

    😉

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  5. Any time you're trying to learn a skill and you always fall to the same
    side, or in the same direction, you should work to get yourself to fall
    in the other direction. If you always drift to the right, you haven't
    got the feeling of drifting to the left yet.

    Once you've done both, you'll have a better idea of what "in-between"
    feels like, and you'll have a better ability to focus in on that.

    But you can't find the middle (the balance point) until you've been on
    both sides of it.

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  6. johnfoss said:

    *Any time you're trying to learn a skill and you always fall to the
    same side, or in the same direction, you should work to get yourself
    to fall in the other direction. If you always drift to the right, you
    haven't got the feeling of drifting to the left yet.

    Once you've done both, you'll have a better idea of what "in-between"
    feels like, and you'll have a better ability to focus in on that.

    But you can't find the middle (the balance point) until you've been on
    both sides of it. *

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, for this bit of advice. I've been
    trying to learn to idle and have been constantly tipping to the right.
    The next time I'm out riding I will work with this idea. It makes so
    much sense. Did I say thank you!?

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  7. And let me add MY thanks for all the expertise above. I really
    appreciate people taking time to advise all of us who are still working
    on idling!

    Phil

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  8. yeah, this is some good stuff. I've been working on idling, I can do it
    a few times then ride away, sometimes unless I upd. It's fun to learn
    new things.

    Andrew

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