Identify 3 speed hub, please.

Lewis Campbell said:

I have a 3-speed hub from a Sears bike. The shifter is a
twist grip type and has H-N-L on it.

The surface of the hub has quite a bit of rust but I can
see ' 3 3 3 Three Speed Hub ' and a US patent number but
NO brand name. (Is it under the rust?)

If you could name this hub I would appreciate it and,
also, is the left side supposed to unscrew, to enable
removal of the mechanism?

"333" is an early Shimano model. They have a poor
reputation, this was back before Shimano learned to make
good stuff.

If it's working, better not to take it apart. These are not
easy to work on like the much superior Sturmey-Archer units
of that era, and parts are not available.

You might want to oil it though, which is done most easily
by unscrewing the bell crank (the lever doodad on the end
of the axle, where the cable attaches), pulling out the
pushrod then oiling through the end of the axle where the
pushrod came out.

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Lewis Campbell said:

I have a 3-speed hub from a Sears bike. The shifter is a
twist grip type and has H-N-L on it.

The surface of the hub has quite a bit of rust but I can
see ' 3 3 3 Three Speed Hub ' and a US patent number but
NO brand name. (Is it under the rust?)

If you could name this hub I would appreciate it and,
also, is the left side supposed to unscrew, to enable
removal of the mechanism?

3.3.3., a symbol of good luck, is a Shimano trademark

Most likely a type F or FA three speed hub.

What do you want to accomplish by unscrewing something?
Maybe remove the bell crank, pull out the pushrod and add
oil if there is not a nylon lubricator on the hubshell.

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April, 1971

Thanks for the help, gentlemen, I was planning to
investigate the possibility of converting this hub to a
'fixed', as I have done with great success on a couple of
Bendix hubs but, after reading your replies, I may
reconsider the wisdom of investing a lot of time into
this project.

Kind regards.

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Lewis.

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Quoted message said:

I have a 3-speed hub from a Sears bike. The shifter is a
twist grip type and has H-N-L on it.

The surface of the hub has quite a bit of rust but I can
see ' 3 3 3

Three

Quoted message said:

Speed Hub ' and a US patent number but NO brand name. (Is
it under the rust?)

If you could name this hub I would appreciate it and,
also, is the left

side

Quoted message said:

supposed to unscrew, to enable removal of the mechanism?

Your help will be appreciated.

Lewis.

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Lewis Campbell said:

Thanks for the help, gentlemen, I was planning to
investigate the possibility of converting this hub to a
'fixed', as I have done with great success on a couple of
Bendix hubs but, after reading your replies, I may
reconsider the wisdom of investing a lot of time into this
project.

I tried that once on one of these hubs, by removing the
gears and gooing it up with epoxy, but it only held for
a little while. Perhaps a better grade of epoxy might
have worked...

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Sheldon wrote:-

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>I tried that once on one of these hubs, by removing the
>gears and gooing

it up with epoxy, but it only held for a little while.
Perhaps a better grade of epoxy might have worked...

Sheldon "BT,DT" Brown <<<< ................................-
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Thanks, Sheldon, thats interesting, maybe I'll give it a try
after all.

I used Loctite and JB Weld on one of my Bendix hubs and it
has held up perfectly to about 200 miles of my testing so
far, so perhaps it will work for me in this 3-speed hub.

Kind regards.

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Quoted message said:

Lewis Campbell said:

Thanks for the help, gentlemen, I was planning to
investigate the possibility of converting this hub to a
'fixed', as I have done with

great

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

success on a couple of Bendix hubs but, after reading
your replies, I

may

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reconsider the wisdom of investing a lot of time into
this project.

I tried that once on one of these hubs, by removing the
gears and gooing it up with epoxy, but it only held for a
little while. Perhaps a better grade of epoxy might have
worked...

Sheldon "BT,DT" Brown +----------------------------------------
+
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| Make it available to all adults! |
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Shimano, probably a Type F.

We have exploded diagrams of those hubs on our site at
this link:

oldroads.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have a 3-speed hub from a Sears bike. The shifter is a
twist grip type and has H-N-L on it.

The surface of the hub has quite a bit of rust but I can
see ' 3 3 3 Three Speed Hub ' and a US patent number but
NO brand name. (Is it under the rust?)

Thanks, I think you are correct and I appreciate the very
interesting website.

Kind regards.

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Lewis.

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Shimano, probably a Type F.

We have exploded diagrams of those hubs on our site at
this link:

oldroads.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles, Inc. oldroads.comoldroads.comOpen ↗

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I have a 3-speed hub from a Sears bike. The shifter is
a twist grip

type

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and has H-N-L on it.

The surface of the hub has quite a bit of rust but I
can see ' 3 3 3

Three

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Speed Hub ' and a US patent number but NO brand name.
(Is it under the rust?)