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In article <iQpIb.239845$_M.1064986@attbi_s54>, cpetersky@mouse- potato.com says...

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An old friend of mine from planning school is in charge of the Baltimore area transit system. He
considers bike racks to be a middle class amenity, and there might be other transit agencies with
similar prejudices. Based on

It certainly doesn't look that way in RI. Very few of the bikes I see on the front of the bus are
"nice" bikes; the ones I usually see are either older road bikes or beat up MTB's. Just the ones I
would expect to see for people who NEED to use their bikes to get to work. The middle class loads
their bikes on their car/minivan/suv, not the bus. I would like to use the bus/bike combo to save
bridge tokens and wear on my 10-year-old van, but the evening bus schedule won't support it if I
ever have to work late.

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who I see using the bike racks and especially what bikes I see them using, I am not so sure that
these racks only benefit middle class people. Quite often it appears that bikes are being used to
extend the range of suburban bus service for people who are working non-peak hour service jobs.
For example, an immigrant worker might be able to get a bus to a suburban location for a job that
starts at 4:00 PM, but when the shift is over at midnight, he's stuck. These are the sorts (yeah,
probably riding the wrong way in the dark on the sidewalk, but that's another issue) of folks
using a bike/bus combo to get to work who are not necessarily middle class.

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[1] My co-workers all think I'm daft for cycling in today. A bit of snow, lots of slush. Mainly
just meant I had to take it slow and watch out for icy bits.

Me, I decided to skip out on work (and cycling) and alternatingly loaf and do housework all day,
while the kids play in the snow.

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As is typical here, the snow (~1"😉

Obviously you write this yesterday.

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Tom Sherman said:

Kevan Smith said:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> from Telia

Internet said:

But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you can say.

How about seeing Fabby riding a recumbent and drafting off Zoots?

I wanna get me one of those welder's ... ermm ... /podium/ hats. And maybe some drugstore sunglasses
to go (clash, actually) with it.

cheers, Tom

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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

I'm not sure what 'procrastinated' means, probably just a women thing, but anyway, what I like
about pro level elite roadies like me is the fact that we only do quality training miles when out
on the bike, that means: No riding when it's cold or wet out. No riding when it's dark out. No
riding if there's a chance of snow or ice....

So Fabby, your parents won't let you go outside and play when the weather is bad?

Tom Sherman – Close to 41½ N, 90½ W

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

"Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<%

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When I got up, it was 24 degrees, or thereabouts. I procrastinated, reading the bicycling
newsgroups and folding laundry. The sun came up, it got marginally warmer, about 28, and I got on
the bike.

I'm not sure what 'procrastinated' means, probably just a women thing, but anyway, what I like
about pro level elite roadies like me is the fact that we only do quality training miles when out
on the bike, that means: No riding when it's cold or wet out. No riding when it's dark out. No
riding if there's a chance of snow or ice.

I see guys like Zoot out on their hybrids this time of year and they are going Nowhere!

I realize you have to think of your image and I agree. Style and Image is everything. But..... I'm
almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

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So Fabby, your parents won't let you go outside and play when the weather is bad?

Face it, Tom, you aren't in the same league.

The pros just don't train in sleet, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.

They might endanger their high-dollar asses by making some critical mistake that could end
their careers.

My guess is that you don't get paid to ride a bike.

And neither do I. People like Fabrizzio are pro level cyclists who have to consider their options
when it comes to basic stuff like riding to the grocery store in a hurricane or dealing with urban
traffic in the snow and ice.

They'd rather not do it.

And I'm cool with that, each to his own.

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:03:14 -0600, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> from

Mostly Disorganized said:

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

I'm not sure what 'procrastinated' means, probably just a women thing, but anyway, what I like
about pro level elite roadies like me is the fact that we only do quality training miles when out
on the bike, that means: No riding when it's cold or wet out. No riding when it's dark out. No
riding if there's a chance of snow or ice....

So Fabby, your parents won't let you go outside and play when the weather is bad?

That's when you pour over race videos looking for strategies for the upcoming season.

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> from

Telia Internet said:

But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you can say.

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"Billy Bigelow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Gawd, what a bigot you are.

If you are going to change the name you post under you should also change you lame writing style,
it's obvious that Billy is really that lamer FRED called Golightly F.

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<xP1Jb.40669> >But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the

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other day.

Knowing the area where ol Zoot rides the only thing sitting on his wheel would be a passed out
homeless street person.

Kevan Smith said:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> from Telia

Internet said:

But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you can say.

How about seeing Fabby riding a recumbent and drafting off Zoots?

Tom Sherman – Close to 41½ N, 90½ W

Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:37:37 -0500, <[email hidden]>,

Eric S. Sande said:

The pros just don't train in sleet, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.

Real men train in wet concrete.
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:11:06 -0600, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> from

Mostly Disorganized said:

Kevan Smith said:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> from Telia

Internet said:

But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you can say.

How about seeing Fabby riding a recumbent and drafting off Zoots?

Ow! Man, you are one cruel person to go that low. I'm feelin' the pain for Fabrizzio on that one.

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"Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Kevan Smith said:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter"

<[email hidden]> from

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Telia Internet said:

But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots

wheel the

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other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you

can say.

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How about seeing Fabby riding a recumbent and drafting off Zoots?

Tom Sherman – Close to 41½ N, 90½ W

Or an electric recumbent trike...

Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:53:42 GMT, <[email hidden]>,

Mike Latondresse mikelat@no_spamshaw.ca said:

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As is typical here, the snow (~1"😉

Obviously you write this yesterday.

After listening to the long-range forecast today I mounted the studded front on the polo-bike and
test rode it to the store. It'll be better when this slop freezes tonight. Lots of the drain grates
are plugged so it's wader weather out there now.

I laughed that as many power outages were caused by careening vehicles smacking poles as by lines
downed directly by branches or snow loads.
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Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:27:38 -0600,
<[email hidden]>, Kevan Smith

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:11:06 -0600, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> from Mostly

Disorganized said:

Kevan Smith said:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:12:29 GMT, "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> from Telia Internet
wrote:

>But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the other day.

Wow, talk about dissin' Fabrizio .... that's about the worst you can say.

How about seeing Fabby riding a recumbent and drafting off Zoots?

Ow! Man, you are one cruel person to go that low. I'm feelin' the pain for Fabrizzio on that one.

I'd promised to not ditch him.

Besides, he doesn't have fenders so what's a guy to do?
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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<xP1Jb.40669> >But..... I'm almost
certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the

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other day.

Knowing the area where ol Zoot rides the only thing sitting on his wheel would be a passed out
homeless street person.

Ah. So you do know the area where he rides 😉 Now that is half a confession right there. And yes the
disguise you were wearing did resemble a homeless street person. If it weren't for your stylish
goggles, helmet and bikeshoes I would never have seen through it. Now there is nothing wrong getting
an edge on your competition as long as you don't lose any style points and I promise not to tell.
Zoot didn't look like he even realized anybody was drafting him ;(

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"Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<xP1Jb.40669> >But..... I'm almost certain that was you I saw sitting on Zoots wheel the

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other day.

Knowing the area where ol Zoot rides the only thing sitting on his wheel would be a passed out
homeless street person.

Sounds like Ryan, er, Zoot misplaced his persona.

Robin Hubert

Claire Petersky said:

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[1] My co-workers all think I'm daft for cycling in today. A bit of snow, lots of slush. Mainly
just meant I had to take it slow and watch out for icy bits.

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Me, I decided to skip out on work (and cycling) and alternatingly loaf and do housework all day,
while the kids play in the snow.

Ah, that does sound rather nicer than my day. Throw in some Mexican hot chocolate with maybe a dash
of rum and I think I'd be content.

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