Ice cream for breakfast

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Well I've been on my diet for a few weeks now and I've
lost about 13 lbs

all

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together. 🙂

One way I've been able to do it is that I eat a lot
of fruit

smoothies/fruit

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soups that I make in the blender.

Here's one that's sugary but still doesn't have a ton of
calories.

1/2 cup fresh pineapple, diced then frozen (about 76
calories) 1 banana, sliced, then frozen (I've heard
various calorie quotes for bananas, so I go with the
highest I've heard to be on the safe side: 144)

I used 1/2 cup skim milk (45 calories) but you guys could
use soy milk. I think it would turn out the same, and the
vanilla version might even make

it

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taste better. When I last looked at a soy milk label, it
had basically the same # of calories as skim milk anyway
(pretty close).

Anyway I put all those ingredients in a blender and
whirred them together, and came out with a soft ice cream
like substance. 🙂

-Rubystars

mmmm...that sounds great! thanks for posting! (😄)

Rubystars said:

Well I've been on my diet for a few weeks now and I've
lost about 13 lbs all together. 🙂

Way to go! Stay strong and keep at it. I saw this the other
day, and it may (or may not) be inspirational:
wjla.com140125.htmlOpen ↗

I like Governor Huckabee's approach which focuses entirely
on his health rather than his weight. He's lost 100 pounds
and has now taken up running.

<...

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1/2 cup fresh pineapple, diced then frozen (about 76 calories)
1 banana, sliced, then frozen (I've heard various calorie quotes for
bananas, so I go with the highest I've heard to be on the safe side: 144)

I do smoothies most mornings, no dairy or soya.

a typical recipe is:

bananas small, 1 bunch 1 large passion fruit 1 ripe mango
punnet strawberries or raspberries

blend, serve, eat and hit the clouds! mmm...

I add homemade organkic almond milk for a creamy flavour.
You can also pre freeze the bananas, thore them out before
the prep and then make an ice "cream". Simply blend the
thoring bananas up and then freeze again. Add carrob powder
and avocados to pre frozen bananas to create a "chocolate"
ice "cream".

John C

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"Rubystars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well I've been on my diet for a few weeks now and I've
lost about 13 lbs

all

Quoted message said:

together. 🙂

One way I've been able to do it is that I eat a lot
of fruit

smoothies/fruit

Quoted message said:

soups that I make in the blender.

Here's one that's sugary but still doesn't have a ton of
calories.

1/2 cup fresh pineapple, diced then frozen (about 76
calories) 1 banana, sliced, then frozen (I've heard
various calorie quotes for bananas, so I go with the
highest I've heard to be on the safe side:

144)

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I used 1/2 cup skim milk (45 calories) but you guys
could use soy milk.

I

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think it would turn out the same, and the vanilla
version might even

make

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it

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taste better. When I last looked at a soy milk label, it
had basically

the

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same # of calories as skim milk anyway (pretty close).

Anyway I put all those ingredients in a blender and
whirred them

together,

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and came out with a soft ice cream like substance. 🙂

-Rubystars

mmmm...that sounds great! thanks for posting! (😄)

Glad you liked the idea. 🙂

-Rubystars

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Rubystars said:

Well I've been on my diet for a few weeks now and I've
lost about 13 lbs

all

Quoted message said:

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together. 🙂

Way to go! Stay strong and keep at it. I saw this the
other day, and it

may (or

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may not) be inspirational:
wjla.com140125.htmlOpen ↗

I like Governor Huckabee's approach which focuses entirely
on his health

rather

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than his weight. He's lost 100 pounds and has now taken up
running.

Cool, thanks for the story. 🙂

I don't know how much this contributed, but I was never able
to be as athletic as other kids without getting out of
breath. I don't think I had asthma (at least not bad enough
to take medicine) because I never had any trouble otherwise,
but I could never run much at all, even when I was normal
size. They did this thing in 7th grade science class where
were supposed to jog in place for a few minutes and then
breathe through a straw into this liquid (it changed color
with carbon dioxide) and about half way through, I was
gasping... I had to stop and do it then, and the liquid
turned color immediately. I wasn't heavy then.

Funny story, I was in first grade and saw a lot of other
kids at recess doing this thing where they climbed to the
top of the monkey bars and lowered themselves down between
them with their arms. Looked like fun so I got up on top,
was going to do the same thing, but my arms weren't strong
enough, and I fell, fast, banging the back of my head
against the bar behind
me. What a headache. :S

Thankfully there wasn't any damage (even with the teacher
taking her sweet time realizing I couldn't get up), but I
sure did get a bump.

I don't know why I was weak like that in my arms and
couldn't run... hopefully there are ways to build up those
muscles though and I'm thinking about trying to get stronger
once all this weight comes off and see if I can't learn how
to do chin ups / run because those are always things I
wanted to be able to do.

-Rubystars

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1/2 cup fresh pineapple, diced then frozen (about 76
calories) 1 banana, sliced, then frozen (I've heard
various calorie quotes for bananas, so I go with the
highest I've heard to be on the safe side:

144)

Quoted message said:

I do smoothies most mornings, no dairy or soya.

a typical recipe is:

bananas small, 1 bunch 1 large passion fruit 1 ripe mango
punnet strawberries or raspberries

blend, serve, eat and hit the clouds! mmm...

I add homemade organkic almond milk for a creamy flavour.
You can also pre freeze the bananas, thore them out before
the prep and then make an ice "cream". Simply blend the
thoring bananas up and then freeze again. Add carrob
powder and avocados to pre frozen bananas to create a
"chocolate"

ice

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"cream".

John C

Neat ideas, thanks.

-Rubystars

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I don't know how much this contributed, but I was never
able to be as athletic as other kids without getting out
of breath. I don't think I had asthma (at least not bad
enough to take medicine) because I never had any trouble
otherwise, but I could never run much at all, even when
I was normal size. They did this thing in 7th grade
science class where were supposed to jog in place for a
few minutes and then breathe through a straw into this
liquid (it changed color with carbon dioxide) and about
half way through, I was gasping... I had to stop and do
it then, and the liquid turned color immediately. I
wasn't heavy then.

Weight doesn't really make a difference in cardiovascular
conditioning. Let me clarify that. One can be overweight but
have excellent cardiovascular conditioning; one can be of
"ideal" or even underweight and have abysmal cardiovascular
conditioning. The way to improve it is to keep moving and
engage in regular aerobic activity. Casual walking can be
aerobic, especially if you're not in good shape. Eventually
you'll improve your aerobic capacity enough that you'll
require longer, more intense activity to improve further.

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Funny story, I was in first grade and saw a lot of other
kids at recess doing this thing where they climbed to the
top of the monkey bars and lowered themselves down between
them with their arms. Looked like fun so I got up on top,
was going to do the same thing, but my arms weren't strong
enough, and I fell, fast, banging the back of my head
against the bar behind
me. What a headache. :S

That's *funny*? Worst thing I ever did on the playground was
get the merry-wheel going so fast that it spun off.
Thankfully, I was the only one on it when it came off.

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Thankfully there wasn't any damage (even with the teacher
taking her sweet time realizing I couldn't get up), but I
sure did get a bump.

I don't know why I was weak like that in my arms and
couldn't run...

Probably.

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hopefully there are ways to build up those muscles though
and I'm thinking about trying to get stronger once all
this weight comes off

No, do it now. It'll help with the weight loss and with
building aerobic capacity. Increasing your lean tissue will
raise your basal metabolic rate (BMR), which will work
synergistically with dieting and walking to help you lose
more weight faster.

You don't need to get a fancy gym membership, or even a
weight set. You can get some surgical rubber bands at
Academy and use them for resistance training. They're not
too expensive. Otherwise, save up old milk bottles (plastic
gallon ones) or other containers and fill with water or
gravel or your dad's fishing weights. You can use those to
do simple exercises like lunges, squats, and presses
(military and bench). You may want to skip weights at first
and just do a battery of calisthenics. Crunches, push-ups,
and squats will be good to start with. Don't give up even if
you can only manage a few (or even one) to start.

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and see if I can't learn how to do chin ups / run because
those are always things I wanted to be able to do.

You can do it. As for running, it's easiest to start with a
good base of walking. Once you can walk briskly for 30-45
minutes, you can start mixing in some running. Maybe try to
walk for 20 secs and then jog for 10-15, and repeat. Do that
for a while and change the ratio so that eventually you're
jogging more than walking. Here's a link to get you started.
Hal Higdon is one of the best running coaches in the
country. halhigdon.comFitnesswalking.htmOpen ↗
halhigdon.comintro.htmOpen ↗
runnersworld.co.ukarticle.aspOpen ↗

You may want to check out the following site, too, to see if
you can find a beginners program or group near you. I looked
(second link) but didn't find anything explicitly for
beginners. harra.orgharra.orgOpen ↗
harra.orgtrain.htmOpen ↗

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I don't know why I was weak like that in my arms and
couldn't run... hopefully there are ways to build up those
muscles though and I'm thinking about trying to get
stronger once all this weight comes off and see if I can't
learn how to do chin ups / run because those are always
things I wanted to be able to do.

If you were born very prem, you may have smaller lungs/chest
- do you know?

Either way you can exercise to increase efficiency. I have
food triggered asthma, and could not breath properly at all
until I went all raw. It was awesome to breath that first
clean and full breath without mucus.

Doug Graham has a lung exercise machine that he sells -
maybe try on his site doctorgraham.ccdoctorgraham.ccOpen ↗.

John C

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Rubystars wrote: <...>

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I don't know how much this contributed, but I was never
able to be as athletic as other kids without getting out
of breath. I don't think I

had

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asthma (at least not bad enough to take medicine)
because I never had

any

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trouble otherwise, but I could never run much at all,
even when I was

normal

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size. They did this thing in 7th grade science class
where were supposed

to

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jog in place for a few minutes and then breathe through
a straw into

this

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liquid (it changed color with carbon dioxide) and about
half way

through, I

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was gasping... I had to stop and do it then, and the
liquid turned color immediately. I wasn't heavy then.

Weight doesn't really make a difference in cardiovascular
conditioning.

Let me

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clarify that. One can be overweight but have excellent
cardiovascular conditioning; one can be of "ideal" or even
underweight and have abysmal cardiovascular conditioning.
The way to improve it is to keep moving and

engage

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in regular aerobic activity. Casual walking can be
aerobic, especially if

you're

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not in good shape. Eventually you'll improve your aerobic
capacity enough

that

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you'll require longer, more intense activity to improve
further.

I didn't know that. I thought if you were at normal weight
you were automatically more healthy than someone who was
larger in all "physical fitness" realms.

My dad found a treadmill at a garage sale a few days ago and
my family's been using it so it's giving me a chance to get
a better workout than I was before.

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Funny story, I was in first grade and saw a lot of other
kids at recess doing this thing where they climbed to
the top of the monkey bars and lowered themselves down
between them with their arms. Looked like fun so

I

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got up on top, was going to do the same thing, but my
arms weren't

strong

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enough, and I fell, fast, banging the back of my head
against the bar

behind

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me. What a headache. :S

That's *funny*?

Not at the time, and not now, really, but I do think it's
weird that all the other kids of the same age group seemed
to be able to lift themselves down gently through the bars
with the strength of their arms alone and I just fell and
banged my head. There was another incident where I didn't
get hurt as badly that was also in elementary. A lot of
other kids, and myself, had our hands on a merry go round to
make it spin, and so everyone started running. I did ok at
first but then I found out I was running more slowly because
I got knocked off my feet and was being dragged as I held on
screaming for them to stop running, as the force was somehow
pulling me underneath the merry go round and my feet were
almost touching the point where it was spinning around from.
They just kept running! I finally let go, and got trampled
on by a bunch of brats before I could roll out of the way. I
don't know why this happened to me, I don't know why I
wasn't as strong physically or why I couldn't run as fast.
One day I'd like to have an answer on that.

It would be interesting to know if that was one of the
precursors to my becoming obese.

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Worst thing I ever did on the playground was get the merry-
wheel going so fast that it spun off. Thankfully, I was the
only one on it when

it

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came off.

Still scary though. 🙁

<snip>

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hopefully there are ways to build up those muscles
though and I'm

thinking

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Quoted message said:

about trying to get stronger once all this weight
comes off

No, do it now. It'll help with the weight loss and with
building aerobic capacity. Increasing your lean tissue
will raise your basal metabolic rate (BMR), which will
work synergistically with dieting and walking to help

you lose

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more weight faster.

I have some weights I use for my arms sometimes.

Quoted message said:

You don't need to get a fancy gym membership, or even a
weight set. You

can get

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some surgical rubber bands at Academy and use them for
resistance

training.

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They're not too expensive. Otherwise, save up old milk
bottles (plastic

gallon

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ones) or other containers and fill with water or gravel or
your dad's

fishing

Quoted message said:

weights. You can use those to do simple exercises like
lunges, squats, and presses (military and bench). You may
want to skip weights at first and

just do

Quoted message said:

a battery of calisthenics. Crunches, push-ups, and squats
will be good to

start

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with. Don't give up even if you can only manage a few (or
even one) to

start.

Ok.

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and see if I can't learn how to do chin ups / run
because those are always things I wanted to be able
to do.

You can do it. As for running, it's easiest to start with
a good base of walking. Once you can walk briskly for 30-
45 minutes, you can start mixing

in

Quoted message said:

some running. Maybe try to walk for 20 secs and then jog
for 10-15, and

repeat.

Quoted message said:

Do that for a while and change the ratio so that
eventually you're jogging

more

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than walking. Here's a link to get you started. Hal Higdon
is one of the

best

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running coaches in the country.

Thanks for the info. I do have to go slow on it until I lose
more weight though because I don't want to tear up my knees.
They're stronger than they were, but they're still prone to
injury, especially if I throw all my weight onto one knee
like in what happens while running. Last summer I actually
had been exercising but had to stop because I injured my
knee doing an exercise tape with side-to-side movements in
it. It didn't feel right when I was walking after that for a
while, like my knee was out of alignment, like it didn't fit
into place correctly. I think I pulled a tendon, but that's
all healed up now.

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halhigdon.comFitnesswalking.htmOpen ↗
halhigdon.comintro.htmOpen ↗
runnersworld.co.ukarticle.aspOpen ↗

You may want to check out the following site, too, to see
if you can find

a

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beginners program or group near you. I looked (second
link) but didn't

find

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anything explicitly for beginners. harra.orgharra.orgOpen ↗
harra.orgtrain.htmOpen ↗

Ok thanks.

-Rubystars

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I don't know why I was weak like that in my arms and
couldn't run... hopefully there are ways to build up
those muscles though and I'm

thinking

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

about trying to get stronger once all this weight
comes off and see if I can't learn how to do chin ups
/ run because those are always things I wanted to be
able to do.

If you were born very prem, you may have smaller
lungs/chest - do you

know?

I was born 3 weeks early, but they said everything was
normal and I was ready to come out and was fully formed.
They might've missed it if it was just a little different
though. That could explain some of it, come to think of it,
but since they said everything was normal then I don't think
I can ever be sure. I think I'm going to take U.S.'s advice
and look to the future and not try to over-analyze things
too much from the past. I know I've posted a lot of stuff
here in this thread but I was more or less just posting it
as the memories came up for my own benefit to kind of
acknowledge what went on and then move on.

Quoted message said:

Either way you can exercise to increase efficiency. I have
food triggered asthma, and could not breath properly at
all until I went all raw.

That must've really sucked. 🙁

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It was awesome to breath that first clean and full breath
without mucus. Doug Graham has a lung exercise machine that
he sells - maybe try on his site
doctorgraham.ccdoctorgraham.ccOpen ↗.

I don't have any money right now but I may look into more
equipment later.

-Rubystars

Rubystars wrote: <...>

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I didn't know that. I thought if you were at normal weight
you were automatically more healthy than someone who was
larger in all "physical fitness" realms.

Nope, not at all. That's especially true with cardiovascular
conditioning.

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My dad found a treadmill at a garage sale a few days ago
and my family's been using it so it's giving me a chance
to get a better workout than I was before.

Cool. That takes away all the excuses about the heat and
humidity and rain this summer.

<...>

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There was another incident where I didn't get hurt as
badly that was also in elementary. A lot of other kids,
and myself, had our hands on a merry go round to make it
spin, and so everyone started running. I did ok at first
but then I found out I was running more slowly because I
got knocked off my feet and was being dragged as I held on
screaming for them to stop running, as the force was
somehow pulling me underneath the merry go round and my
feet were almost touching the point where it was spinning
around from. They just kept running! I finally let go, and
got trampled on by a bunch of brats before I could roll
out of the way. I don't know why this happened to me, I
don't know why I wasn't as strong physically or why I
couldn't run as fast. One day I'd like to have an answer
on that.

Typically, girls aren't as strong or fast as boys. How many
girls trampled you?

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It would be interesting to know if that was one of the
precursors to my becoming obese.

I doubt it. I don't know how sedentary or active you were as
a child. If you were more likely to watch tv than to run
around with the kids and peddle your bike all day, that
probably led to some physical weakness and diminished
aerobic capacity. I think it's more important, regardless,
to focus on conditioning now than over-analyzing stuff from
the past. You can't change the past, but you can do things
to make your future what you want it to be.

<...>

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I have some weights I use for my arms sometimes.

Try to use them for other exercises as well. Your leg and
back muscles are your largest. They'll respond fastest to
resistance training. If your knees can't handle resistance
training, try doing some weightless squats (deep knee
bends). For your back, try doing some bent rows with your
weights: with your knees bent slightly, lean your body
forward as close as possible to parallel with the ground;
let the weights down and raise to your chest. You can vary
the angles of motion from wide out to more like hands
together. Start yourself out easy and figure out how much
weight you need to do 15-20 repetitions. Skip it, though, if
you have lower back problems.

<...>

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Thanks for the info. I do have to go slow on it until I
lose more weight though because I don't want to tear up
my knees.

I realize that, and you're the one who knows when you're
ready to run.

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They're stronger than they were, but they're still prone
to injury, especially if I throw all my weight onto one
knee like in what happens while running. Last summer I
actually had been exercising but had to stop because I
injured my knee doing an exercise tape with side-to-side
movements in it.

Do NOT do lateral movements like that. That's a peeve of
mine when I see aerobics classes with everyone moving left
and right. Many, if not most, knee injuries occur from
lateral motion injuries. Lateral strains on the ligaments
affect even well-conditioned athletes. The knee is designed
to hinge in one direction while maintaning support laterally
(such as when we veer right or left when walking). Make sure
you always point yourself in the direction you want to go to
minimize the stress on your medial and lateral knee
ligaments.

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It didn't feel right when I was walking after that for a
while, like my knee was out of alignment, like it didn't
fit into place correctly. I think I pulled a tendon, but
that's all healed up now.

More likely a strained ligament, either LCL or MCL. Neither
is one you want to injure. If the pain was on the inside of
the knee, it was probably MCL. It the pain was on the
outside, it was probably LCL. Tendonitis of the knee can
occur from lateral movement, but it's usually from strain on
the hamstrings and/or quadriceps (thighs); those are the two
tendon groups of the knee. It's also possible you did some
damage to cartilage or bone. Be careful, okay?

<...

Rubystars said:

Thanks for the info. I do have to go slow on it until I
lose more weight though because I don't want to tear up my
knees. They're stronger than they were, but they're still
prone to injury, especially if I throw all my weight onto
one knee like in what happens while running.

Get a bike! Bikes are fun and a great way to get around, and
they are easy on your knees. Check out rec.bicycles.misc if
you want info on anything bike-related. HTH JohnnyJ

Rubystars wrote: <...>

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I was born 3 weeks early, but they said everything was
normal and I was ready to come out and was fully formed.
They might've missed it if it was just a little different
though. That could explain some of it, come to think of
it, but since they said everything was normal then I don't
think I can ever be sure. I think I'm going to take U.S.'s
advice and look to the future and not try to over-analyze
things too much from the past. I know I've posted a lot of
stuff here in this thread but I was more or less just
posting it as the memories came up for my own benefit to
kind of acknowledge what went on and then move on.

It can be cathartic if you get it off your chest and then
don't dwell on it.

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Either way you can exercise to increase efficiency. I have
food triggered asthma, and could not breath properly at
all until I went all raw.

Coleman is a mess. Lactose intolerant, food-triggered
asthma, out of shape, vitamin deficiencies. And yet here he
is peddling the raw fad.

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That must've really sucked. 🙁

Don't fret, he's exaggerating to push his agenda. He's
"testifying" about what a depraved sinner he was before he
was saved by the Almighty Juicer.

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It was awesome to breath that first clean and full breath
without mucus. Doug Graham has a lung exercise machine
that he sells - maybe try on his site
doctorgraham.ccdoctorgraham.ccOpen ↗.

I don't have any money right now but I may look into more
equipment later.

Your dad already bought a lung exercise machine; speed it up
and adjust the incline as your cardiovascular conditioning
improves. ;-)

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Rubystars wrote: <...>

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I didn't know that. I thought if you were at normal
weight you were automatically more healthy than someone
who was larger in all "physical fitness" realms.

Nope, not at all. That's especially true with
cardiovascular conditioning.

Quoted message said:

My dad found a treadmill at a garage sale a few days ago
and my family's been using it so it's giving me a chance
to get a better workout than I

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

before.

Cool. That takes away all the excuses about the heat and
humidity and rain

this

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summer.

Yeah I don't have to worry about the cold in the winter
either. 🙂

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Typically, girls aren't as strong or fast as boys. How
many girls trampled

you?

Several kids ran over me, I don't know exactly how many, but
there were a bunch of boys and girls doing the running and
no one else seemed to have trouble keeping up.

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It would be interesting to know if that was one of the
precursors to my becoming obese.

I doubt it.

I think it may have been because it caused me not to want to
do too much, I mean, who wants to get out of breath (or bang
your head, or get trampled)?

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I don't know how sedentary or active you were as a child.

I was pretty sedentary. The most activity I had was when I
was in the back yard playing with the dogs and catching
lizards and that didn't really require a lot.

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If you were more likely to watch tv than to run around with
the kids and peddle

your

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bike all day, that probably led to some physical weakness
and diminished

aerobic

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capacity.

Yeah, but I couldn't miss watching Mysterious Cities
of Gold. *L*

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I think it's more important, regardless, to focus on
conditioning now
than over-analyzing stuff from the past. You can't change
the past, but

you can

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do things to make your future what you want it to be.

Yeah that's what I'm hoping. I don't need to be an athlete
or anything but I'd at least like to be "normal" whatever
that means.

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I have some weights I use for my arms sometimes.

Try to use them for other exercises as well. Your leg and
back muscles are

your

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largest. They'll respond fastest to resistance training.
If your knees

can't

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handle resistance training, try doing some weightless
squats (deep knee

bends).

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For your back, try doing some bent rows with your weights:
with your knees

bent

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slightly, lean your body forward as close as possible to
parallel with the ground; let the weights down and raise
to your chest. You can vary the

angles of

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motion from wide out to more like hands together. Start
yourself out easy

and

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figure out how much weight you need to do 15-20
repetitions. Skip it,

though, if

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you have lower back problems.

Thankfully no back problems yet. Thanks for the ideas.

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Do NOT do lateral movements like that. That's a peeve of
mine when I see aerobics classes with everyone moving left
and right. Many, if not most,

knee

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injuries occur from lateral motion injuries. Lateral
strains on the

ligaments

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affect even well-conditioned athletes. The knee is
designed to hinge in

one

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direction while maintaning support laterally (such as when
we veer right

or left

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when walking). Make sure you always point yourself in the
direction you

want to

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go to minimize the stress on your medial and lateral knee
ligaments.

Ok, I don't do the side to side motions anymore since I got
hurt doing it that once.

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It didn't feel right when I was walking after that for a
while, like my knee was out of alignment, like

it

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didn't fit into place correctly. I think I pulled a
tendon, but that's

all

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healed up now.

More likely a strained ligament, either LCL or MCL.
Neither is one you

want to

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injure. If the pain was on the inside of the knee, it was
probably MCL. It

the

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pain was on the outside, it was probably LCL. Tendonitis
of the knee can

occur

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from lateral movement, but it's usually from strain on the
hamstrings

and/or

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quadriceps (thighs); those are the two tendon groups of
the knee. It's

also

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possible you did some damage to cartilage or bone. Be
careful, okay?

Ok, I will. I'm not sure what it was, but for some reason it
just felt like it didn't fit right for a while, vertically.
It was really awkward. I could walk, but I felt like things
didn't fit together right, almost like a puzzle piece that
doesn't fit even though it's kind of been forced in through
banging a hammer on it.

Everything's ok now though, as far as I know. Everything
seems to fall into place correctly in my knee.

-Rubystars

"JohnnyJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks for the info. I do have to go slow on it until I
lose more weight though because I don't want to tear up
my knees. They're stronger than

they

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were, but they're still prone to injury, especially if I
throw all my

weight

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onto one knee like in what happens while running.

Get a bike! Bikes are fun and a great way to get around,
and they are easy on your knees.

I've been using my bike. They are fun. 🙂

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Check out rec.bicycles.misc if you want info on anything
bike-related. HTH JohnnyJ

Thanks Johnny.

-Rubystars

"usual suspect" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Coleman is a mess. Lactose intolerant, food-triggered
asthma, out of

shape,

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vitamin deficiencies. And yet here he is peddling the
raw fad.

I've heard about people on raw vegan diets rapidly losing
weight. If I wasn't scared of the health side effects of
rapid weight loss then it'd be awfully tempting. I'm going
to go slow though.

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That must've really sucked. 🙁

Don't fret, he's exaggerating to push his agenda. He's
"testifying" about

what a

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depraved sinner he was before he was saved by the
Almighty Juicer.

lol.

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It was awesome to breath that first clean and full
breath without mucus. Doug Graham has a lung exercise
machine that he sells - maybe try on his site
doctorgraham.ccdoctorgraham.ccOpen ↗.

I don't have any money right now but I may look into
more equipment

later.

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Your dad already bought a lung exercise machine; speed it
up and adjust

the

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incline as your cardiovascular conditioning improves. ;-)

Yeah, the treadmill is pretty good. 🙂

-Rubystars

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It would be interesting to know if that was one of the
precursors to my becoming obese.

I doubt it.

I think it may have been because it caused me not to want
to do too much, I mean, who wants to get out of breath (or
bang your head, or get trampled)?

Vicious cycle. But it's not the egg to the chicken. It may
have been a secondary contributing factor, but I don't think
it's an "organic" cause of obesity. It would affect how you
viewed yourself in comparison to others, and perhaps how you
might enter despair or depression rather than consciously
trying to get into shape. I realize nobody *wants* to be out
of breath or physically weak, but those things by themselves
aren't precursors to obesity unless one resigns oneself to
sedentary existence.

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I don't know how sedentary or active you were as a child.

I was pretty sedentary. The most activity I had was when I
was in the back yard playing with the dogs and catching
lizards and that didn't really require a lot.

That's more likely a causal factor.

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If you were more likely to watch tv than to run around
with the kids and peddle

your

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bike all day, that probably led to some physical weakness
and diminished

aerobic

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capacity.

Yeah, but I couldn't miss watching Mysterious Cities of
Gold. *L*

Do you still feel the same way about it now?

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I think it's more important, regardless, to focus on
conditioning now than over-analyzing stuff from the past.
You can't change the past, but

you can

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do things to make your future what you want it to be.

Yeah that's what I'm hoping. I don't need to be an athlete
or anything but I'd at least like to be "normal" whatever
that means.

I'd hope you'd set your goals a little higher than
"average." Athleticism has various degrees, ranging from
being fit to being an elite competitor. Not everyone has the
time, desire, drive, or abilities to be competitive in
sports, but everyone does have the ability and time to be
fit. Unfortunately, most people are unfit; mediocrity has
its penalties.

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Ok, I will. I'm not sure what it was, but for some reason
it just felt like it didn't fit right for a while,
vertically. It was really awkward. I could walk, but I
felt like things didn't fit together right, almost like a
puzzle piece that doesn't fit even though it's kind of
been forced in through banging a hammer on it.

Was it painful and for how long?

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Everything's ok now though, as far as I know. Everything
seems to fall into place correctly in my knee.

Good.

Rubystars said:

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Coleman is a mess. Lactose intolerant, food-triggered
asthma, out of

shape,

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vitamin deficiencies. And yet here he is peddling the
raw fad.

I've heard about people on raw vegan diets rapidly losing
weight. If I wasn't scared of the health side effects of
rapid weight loss then it'd be awfully tempting. I'm going
to go slow though.

I can give you plenty of reasons why you should take your
time. I can also give you plenty of reasons to avoid raw
vegan fad diets. The lists would be quite similar and center
on putting your long-term health first.

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That must've really sucked. 🙁

Don't fret, he's exaggerating to push his agenda. He's
"testifying" about

what a

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depraved sinner he was before he was saved by the
Almighty Juicer.

lol.

It's funny, but it's also sad. People get so wrapped up with
themselves that they forget reality and then start
exaggerating the "benefits." The formerly lactose intolerant
asthmatic without any excess mucus quickly forgets that he's
now anemic and has B12 and D deficiencies and claims his
[censored] doesn't stink. One load of problems (questionable how
serious they ever were) for another.

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>It was awesome to breath that first clean and full
>breath without mucus. Doug Graham has a lung exercise
>machine that he sells - maybe try on his site
>doctorgraham.ccdoctorgraham.ccOpen ↗.

I don't have any money right now but I may look into more
equipment

later.

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Your dad already bought a lung exercise machine; speed it
up and adjust

the

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incline as your cardiovascular conditioning improves. ;-)

Yeah, the treadmill is pretty good. 🙂

I just looked at that chiropractor's site. You don't need
his machine. Ever.

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Vicious cycle. But it's not the egg to the chicken. It may
have been a

secondary

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contributing factor, but I don't think it's an "organic"
cause of obesity.

It

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would affect how you viewed yourself in comparison to
others, and perhaps

how

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you might enter despair or depression rather than
consciously trying to

get into

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shape.

Every time I ever tried to do anything related to sports, I
ended up feeling bad all over, inside and out. When I
watched tv, ate good tasting food, and played outside in the
back yard, I felt good and happy.

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I realize nobody *wants* to be out of breath or physically
weak, but those things by themselves aren't precursors to
obesity unless one resigns oneself to sedentary existence.

Yeah, well I'm starting to change that now.

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I don't know how sedentary or active you were as a
child.

I was pretty sedentary. The most activity I had was when
I was in the

back

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yard playing with the dogs and catching lizards and that
didn't really require a lot.

That's more likely a causal factor.

Yup.

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If you were more likely to watch tv than to run around
with the kids and peddle

your

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bike all day, that probably led to some physical
weakness and diminished

aerobic

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capacity.

Yeah, but I couldn't miss watching Mysterious Cities of
Gold. *L*

Do you still feel the same way about it now?

I don't really like exercising very much but I do it because
I have to or I'm going to get sick eventually. It's been fun
sometimes to go around the neighborhood on foot or on my
bike and see people's gardens, etc. though. One day was
really fun because it was sunny and in every cycad I passed,
I saw an anole peering out. *L* I really don't like getting
tired or sweaty though, but I don't really have any choice
at this point. It's do or die, basically.

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I think it's more important, regardless, to focus on
conditioning now than over-analyzing stuff from the
past. You can't change the past, but

you can

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do things to make your future what you want it to be.

Yeah that's what I'm hoping. I don't need to be an
athlete or anything

but

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I'd at least like to be "normal" whatever that means.

I'd hope you'd set your goals a little higher than
"average." Athleticism has various degrees, ranging from
being fit to being an elite competitor. Not everyone has
the time, desire, drive, or abilities to be competitive in

sports,

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but everyone does have the ability and time to be fit.
Unfortunately, most people are unfit; mediocrity has its
penalties.

I would like to be fit. I don't want to get tired so easily
or get out of breath going up stairs.

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Ok, I will. I'm not sure what it was, but for some
reason it just felt

like

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it didn't fit right for a while, vertically. It was
really awkward. I

could

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walk, but I felt like things didn't fit together right,
almost like a

puzzle

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piece that doesn't fit even though it's kind of been
forced in through banging a hammer on it.

Was it painful and for how long?

It wasn't really painful. Sometimes it ached just a little
bit, but not much at all, and most of the time it didn't
hurt at all, but that doesn't mean it felt comfortable. A
different kind of pain was in the fact that it didn't feel
like it fit together right. It lasted for about 3 or 4
weeks, before it finally went back to normal. I haven't had
any other trouble with it.

-Rubystars