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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Mike

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Published: 16 June 2004
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Michael
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16 June 2004, 13:15 UTC #1

What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses?
Mike

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Kyle Legate
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16 June 2004, 18:46 UTC #2

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses?

There is no book on Iban Mayo. The book's on Lance
Armstrong.

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Beetlebum
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16 June 2004, 19:08 UTC #3

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Originally posted by Michael
What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses?

Mike
Strength = climbing, surely
Weakness = time-trialing, but he seems to be improving there; maybe his team, esp. for the TTT, but with the 2:30 time loss limit that may not be significant

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K. J. Papai
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16 June 2004, 20:01 UTC #4

"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has
not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has
never won a 1-day classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think).
Seems to always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken

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Michael
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16 June 2004, 22:18 UTC #5

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has
not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has
never won a 1-day classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I
think). Seems to always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Thanks guys.
Mike

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Sonarrat
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17 June 2004, 03:16 UTC #6

K. J. Papai said:
"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has
not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has
never won a 1-day classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I
think). Seems to always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year, but he
won the Classique des Alpes in 2001 (also taking 2nd this
year). Whether that is a "classic" is debatable.
-Sonarrat.

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Morten
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17 June 2004, 10:47 UTC #7

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He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches - however hes won the
Basque stage race the week before LBL (in front of Hamilton)
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Ewoud Dronkert
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17 June 2004, 11:47 UTC #8

Morten said:
Sonarrat said:
He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches
Oh no it wasn't. cyclingnews.comworld
cup03/lbl03/?id=results

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Chris
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17 June 2004, 18:01 UTC #9

"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has
not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is his
age. Dude, how many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go ahead
and count all of Lance's tour results including the Tour de
Trump results agains those of Mayo and then see who has one
of the best palmares of anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
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classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always
have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see
that the only thing Lance had on him by that age is a few
great one day results. Mayo is more of a natural GT killer
and if his career is handled well he could easily be the
next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for nearly
a decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.

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Chris
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17 June 2004, 20:30 UTC #10

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo
has not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the
Giro. Has never won a 1-day classic (but has a 2nd at
L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad day at a
Grand Tour.
-Ken
Thanks guys.
Mike
Nobody has mentioned how young he is. He is not even in his
prime years yet...

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Morten
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19 June 2004, 09:45 UTC #11

Morten said:
Sonarrat <[email hidden]> wrote:
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He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
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No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches - however hes won
the Basque stage race the week before LBL (in front of
Hamilton)
my mistake, i just rememberred that it was Sanches who at
first was in the brakeaway with Armstrong and later on was
the one to follow at st. nicolas when Bogerd broke away. I
asumed he was the Euskatel rider who was chaseing Hamilton
with Bogerd.
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Tom Kunich
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22 June 2004, 02:30 UTC #12

"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and
weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has
not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has
never won a 1-day classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I
think). Seems to always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
And according to Pedro Degado, Iban always manages to have a
really bad day in any Tour he's in.

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Tom Kunich
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22 June 2004, 16:30 UTC #13

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"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental --
Mayo has not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or
the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is
his age. Dude, how many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go
ahead and count all of Lance's tour results including the
Tour de Trump results agains those of Mayo and then see
who has one of the best palmares of anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
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classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to
always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see
that the only thing Lance had on him by that age is a few
great one day results. Mayo is more of a natural GT killer
and if his career is handled well he could easily be the
next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for
nearly a decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.
(Giggle, laughhhhhhhh, sputter, choke) Like when he couldn't
keep up with Lance in Luz last year?

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K. J. Papai
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22 June 2004, 16:45 UTC #14

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"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses? Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to
mountainous stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-
like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental --
Mayo has not won the Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or
the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is
his age. Dude, how many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go
ahead and count all of Lance's tour
In my book, Age == Mental Strength.
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results including the Tour de Trump results agains those
of Mayo and then see who has one of the best palmares of
anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
Quoted message said:
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to
always have a bad day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see
that the only thing Lance had on him by that age is a few
great one day results. Mayo is more of a natural GT killer
and if his career is handled well he could easily be the
next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for
nearly a decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.
I do not know off-hand how old Mayo is -- 27? I could look
it up but I am not concerned. His day is soon, and will be
in winning GT's in 2005 and beyond. I like hime a lot.
-Ken

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Kyle Legate
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22 June 2004, 21:39 UTC #15

K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?

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K. J. Papai
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23 June 2004, 16:00 UTC #16

"Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]> wrote ...
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K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?
Between 14 and 65, depending on the thread.
Yourself?
-kenm

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Kyle Legate
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23 June 2004, 19:15 UTC #17

K. J. Papai said:
"Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]> wrote ...
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K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?
Between 14 and 65, depending on the thread.
Yourself?

It looks like we're the same age.

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Amit
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23 June 2004, 23:15 UTC #18

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Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and
see that the only thing Lance had on him by that age is
a few great one day results. Mayo is more of a natural
GT killer and if his career is handled well he could
easily be the next great GT champ. Lance had to work
very hard for nearly a decade to be able to place in the
top 10 of a GT.
Like when he couldn't keep up with Lance in Luz last year?
It's psychologial warfare. Mayo was softening up Lance for
this year's Tour.

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