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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Mike

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Published: 16 June 2004
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Michael
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16 June 2004, 13:01 UTC #1

What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike

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Kyle Legate
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16 June 2004, 18:40 UTC #2

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
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There is no book on Iban Mayo. The book's on Lance Armstrong.

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Beetlebum
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16 June 2004, 19:17 UTC #3

Michael said:
What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths and weaknesses?
Mike
Strength = climbing, surely Weakness = time-trialing, but he seems to be
improving there; maybe his team, esp. for the TTT, but with the 2:30
time loss limit that may not be significant
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K. J. Papai
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16 June 2004, 19:58 UTC #4

"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has never won a 1-day
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken

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Michael
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16 June 2004, 22:07 UTC #5

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has never won a 1-day
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Thanks guys.
Mike

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Sonarrat
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17 June 2004, 02:58 UTC #6

K. J. Papai said:
"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has never won a 1-day
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year, but he won the
Classique des Alpes in 2001 (also taking 2nd this year). Whether that
is a "classic" is debatable.
-Sonarrat.

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Morten
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17 June 2004, 10:44 UTC #7

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He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches - however hes won the Basque
stage race the week before LBL (in front of Hamilton)
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Ewoud Dronkert
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17 June 2004, 11:01 UTC #8

Morten said:
Sonarrat said:
He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches
Oh no it wasn't.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/worldcup03/lbl03/?id=results

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Chris
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17 June 2004, 17:47 UTC #9

"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is his age. Dude, how
many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go ahead and count all of Lance's tour
results including the Tour de Trump results agains those of Mayo and then
see who has one of the best palmares of anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
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classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see that the only
thing Lance had on him by that age is a few great one day results. Mayo is
more of a natural GT killer and if his career is handled well he could
easily be the next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for nearly a
decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.

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Chris
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17 June 2004, 20:24 UTC #10

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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has never won a 1-day
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Thanks guys.
Mike
Nobody has mentioned how young he is. He is not even in his prime years
yet...

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Morten
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19 June 2004, 09:04 UTC #11

Morten said:
Sonarrat <[email hidden]> wrote:
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He was indeed 2nd at Liege-Bastogne-Liege last year
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No it was his teammate Samuel Sanches - however hes won the Basque
stage race the week before LBL (in front of Hamilton)
my mistake, i just rememberred that it was Sanches who at first was in
the brakeaway with Armstrong and later on was the one to follow at st.
nicolas when Bogerd broke away. I asumed he was the Euskatel rider
who was chaseing Hamilton with Bogerd.
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Tom Kunich
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22 June 2004, 02:24 UTC #12

"K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro. Has never won a 1-day
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
And according to Pedro Degado, Iban always manages to have a really bad day
in any Tour he's in.

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Tom Kunich
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22 June 2004, 16:23 UTC #13

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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is his age. Dude, how
many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go ahead and count all of Lance's tour
results including the Tour de Trump results agains those of Mayo and then
see who has one of the best palmares of anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
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classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see that the only
thing Lance had on him by that age is a few great one day results. Mayo is
more of a natural GT killer and if his career is handled well he could
easily be the next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for nearly a
decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.
(Giggle, laughhhhhhhh, sputter, choke) Like when he couldn't keep up
with Lance in Luz last year?

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K. J. Papai
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22 June 2004, 16:34 UTC #14

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"Michael of 8 million Mike's" ...
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What's the book on Iban Mayo? What are his strengths
and weaknesses?
Mike
Strengths: Uphill finishing ITTs. Uphill finishes to mountainous
stages. A decent helpful mountain goat-like team.
Weaknesses: flat, strong man type ITTs. Mental -- Mayo has not won the
Tour. Has not won the Vuelta or the Giro.
You are overlooking the most important fact and that is his age. Dude, how
many GTs had Lance won at that age? Go ahead and count all of Lance's tour
In my book, Age == Mental Strength.
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results including the Tour de Trump results agains those of Mayo and then
see who has one of the best palmares of anyone at his age.
Has never won a 1-day
Quoted message said:
classic (but has a 2nd at L-B-L I think). Seems to always have a bad
day at a Grand Tour.
-Ken
Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see that the only
thing Lance had on him by that age is a few great one day results. Mayo is
more of a natural GT killer and if his career is handled well he could
easily be the next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for nearly a
decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.
I do not know off-hand how old Mayo is -- 27?
I could look it up but I am not concerned.
His day is soon, and will be in winning GT's in 2005 and beyond.
I like hime a lot.
-Ken

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Kyle Legate
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22 June 2004, 20:38 UTC #15

K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?

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K. J. Papai
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23 June 2004, 15:45 UTC #16

"Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]> wrote ...
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K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?
Between 14 and 65, depending on the thread.
Yourself?
-kenm

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Kyle Legate
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23 June 2004, 19:03 UTC #17

K. J. Papai said:
"Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]> wrote ...
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K. J. Papai said:

In my book, Age == Mental Strength.

How old are you, Ken?
Between 14 and 65, depending on the thread.
Yourself?

It looks like we're the same age.

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Amit
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23 June 2004, 23:08 UTC #18

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Compare the palmares of Mayo to that of your idol and see that the only
thing Lance had on him by that age is a few great one day results. Mayo is
more of a natural GT killer and if his career is handled well he could
easily be the next great GT champ. Lance had to work very hard for nearly a
decade to be able to place in the top 10 of a GT.
Like when he couldn't keep up
with Lance in Luz last year?
It's psychologial warfare. Mayo was softening up Lance for this year's Tour.

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