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  1. Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally blocked
    by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases. Virtually every
    person apologised as they got off for climbing over the buggy and when
    she apologised to someone for blocking the exit the reply was "Don't
    worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I would have gotten the same
    reaction if I had blocked the door with a bike?

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  2. Tony Raven said:

    Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally blocked
    by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases. Virtually every
    person apologised as they got off for climbing over the buggy and when
    she apologised to someone for blocking the exit the reply was "Don't
    worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I would have gotten the same
    reaction if I had blocked the door with a bike?

    Dunno - IME fellow passengers don't mind bikes at all; it's the train
    companies that have the strange negative attitude.

    --
    jc

    Remove the -not from email

  3. Tony Raven said:

    gotten

    Tony, are you American? If not, stop this nonsense at once!

  4. Tony Raven said:

    Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally blocked
    by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases. Virtually every
    person apologised as they got off for climbing over the buggy and when
    she apologised to someone for blocking the exit the reply was "Don't
    worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I would have gotten the same
    reaction if I had blocked the door with a bike?

    I doubt it - in much the same way that most drivers will slow down when
    passing by a horse and rider, but almost none do when passing by
    cyclists, even when small kids are riding in the group.

    --
    Chris

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    Tony Raven said:

    Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally blocked
    by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases. Virtually every
    person apologised as they got off for climbing over the buggy and when
    she apologised to someone for blocking the exit the reply was "Don't
    worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I would have gotten the same
    reaction if I had blocked the door with a bike?

    I doubt it - in much the same way that most drivers will slow down when
    passing by a horse and rider, but almost none do when passing by cyclists,
    even when small kids are riding in the group.

    Well, I'm fortunate that I bought a bicycle that doesn't get spooked.

  6. Chris said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally
    blocked by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases.
    Virtually every person apologised as they got off for climbing over
    the buggy and when she apologised to someone for blocking the exit
    the reply was "Don't worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I
    would have gotten the same reaction if I had blocked the door with a
    bike?

    I doubt it - in much the same way that most drivers will slow down
    when passing by a horse and rider, but almost none do when passing by
    cyclists, even when small kids are riding in the group.

    If there is room to overtake safely then why slow down?

  7. Tony Raven said:


    Caught the train today to Stansted Airport. As the door opened there
    were loads of people waiting to get off with the doorway totally blocked
    by a woman with double buggy and pile of suitcases. Virtually every
    person apologised as they got off for climbing over the buggy and when
    she apologised to someone for blocking the exit the reply was "Don't
    worry, its not your fault". I wonder if I would have gotten the same
    reaction if I had blocked the door with a bike?

    Three instances - to show how variable service can be...

    Once at Waterloo I had got into the vestibule of a fairly full train
    with the folded Brompton.
    There was also a couple with two large suitcases, a lady with a big
    buggy with youngster and with bags hanging from handles, and a couple of commuters.
    The guard approached me and asked for my reservation. (good start here
    I thought). Of course I said that one was not needed for a folding bike,
    which seemed to annoy her.
    She then said it was a health and safety hazard and would need to go in
    the bike 'area'.
    By now the train was going and there was no way I could squeeze down the
    aisle with the Brommie. As I had begun to ignore the guard she huffed,
    muttered something about cyclists and went off checking tickets.

    On another occasion i had two reservations for two laden bikes to
    Exeter. The normally six carriage train had been reduced to just three
    carriages, ie one narrow cubbyhole for two bikes max. It was standing
    room only (sardines only) and the bike space was already occupied by a
    fully laden unreserved bike, several cases and a drum of all things.
    I forced the bikes on to much cursing from other passengers and they
    were put in the very narrow corridor
    On showing my reservations and by directing my ire at SWT the other
    passengers calmed down and instead also started cursing the railway and
    how it didn't cater for passengers at all - whether they had bikes or
    not.
    The guard was never seen - hiding I reckon.

    Last week I was travelling with bike from New Milton to Basingstoke. On
    arrival at NM the five hanging bike spaces on the Wessex Electric were
    already full. The guard was very helpful and let me put my bike in his
    cab, despite a 'safety notice' saying no more than 5 were to be allowed.
    Throughout the journey he juggled the bikes as others got on and off,
    all without any of the usual SWT grunts and groans. He did his best to
    be helpful and to accommodate all passengers.
    He was a true gent.

    What is clear from trying to take bikes on the railways is that it is
    nigh on impossible to be certain of what will happen. So much depends on
    what side of bed the guard got on or whether the bike area has been
    commandeered by anyone else - a large wheely bin was in it last week.
    It really is a case of pot luck.

    So in answer to your question - who knows :-(

    John B

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