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  1. Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.

    Coming down my road this evening after work (narrow road, cars parked either side), the car behind
    me starts beeping. Naturally, I cannot move over as there are cars parked all the way down. So I
    keep going. The beeping starts again. So I just stopped there in the middle of the road. I turned to
    the driver and asked why she was beeping at me.

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In disbelief,
    I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just move over!" I'm
    almost dumbstruck at this point and tell her that I have every right to cycle where I am in the
    road. Then she adds, (and this is the best bit) "I've passed my test. You need to get a life." And
    once again she tells me to move over. Now her kids in the

    Charming.

    flame me) and carry on making my way down the road (making a point of staying right in the middle of
    it). Needless to say, she follows me beeping as she goes. Until I turn off in front of my house.

    I really hope they're not locals.

    Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Maybe she was just trying to wind me up. I certainly worked.

    Simonb

  2. Simonb tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:

    so flame me) and carry on making my way down the road (making a point of staying right in the
    middle of it). Needless to say, she follows me beeping as she goes. Until I turn off in front of
    my house.

    Some people really wouldn't understand any other reply anyway .. and if you _had_ replied in a more
    subtle, funny, or indeed intelligent, manner, they'd have probably just ran you over ayway .. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    I really hope they're not locals.

    Heheheh, keep an eye on your front garden .. especially in the wee small hours .. 😉 Personally, I
    would have cycled past my house and turned off some way past, or even into a different street .. but
    I'd rather be a coward .. 😉

    --
    Digweed '79 Beamish RL 250, '85 Swift Corvette, '88 Ford Escort 1.6 Ghia, '95 Dyna-Tech CroMo Comp,
    '97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi, '02 Schumacher CAT 3000, '03 Losi Kinwald Triple-X, '03 Associated
    RC10 B4 .... 😉

  3. "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    flame me)

    It would take a stronger will than mine not to have said the above, so no flames from me.

    I'm utterly amazed by this story! (although I think I may have heard somebody say similar
    to me once).

    With hindsight and in the relaxing environment of my house, "Where does it say that in the highway
    code then?" is the best I can do.

    cheers, clive

  4. "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.


    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Maybe she was just trying to wind me up. I certainly
    worked. Simonb

    PMT? Hers, not yours, of course...

    --
    M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm

  5. Simonb said:

    Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.

    Coming down my road this evening after work (narrow road, cars parked either side), the car behind
    me starts beeping. Naturally, I cannot move over as there are cars parked all the way down. So I
    keep going. The beeping starts again. So I just stopped there in the middle of the road. I turned
    to the driver and asked why she was beeping at me.

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In
    disbelief, I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just
    move over!" I'm almost dumbstruck at this point and tell her that I have every right to cycle
    where I am in the road. Then she adds, (and this is the best bit) "I've passed my test. You need
    to get a life." And once again she tells me to move over. Now her kids in the

    They're pikeys and shouldn't have been allowed to breed. I think I would have reported them for
    harassment, at least.

  6. Simonb' sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk said:

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In
    disbelief, I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just move
    over!" I'm almost dumbstruck at this point and tell her that I have every right to cycle where I am
    in the road. Then she adds, (and this is the best bit) "I've passed my test. You need to get a
    life." And once again she tells me to move over. Now her kids in the

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Simon

    I probably shouldn't laugh but ...

    Usually, I do my very best to get out of the way if I'm holding up motorized traffic. However, I
    somehow manage to go into a slow, freewheeling mode whenever I'm treated in the manner that you were
    treated today. It's almost a pride thing.

    I do feel a little guilty whenever I act as described above ... but not too guilty, mind you.

    It's the "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just move over!" attitude that annoys me.

    I wonder what percentage of adult cyclists have passed their driving test?

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

  7. Simonb said:

    Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.

    Coming down my road this evening after work (narrow road, cars parked either side), the car behind
    me starts beeping.

    Quoted message said:

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In
    disbelief, I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just
    move over!"

    Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

    In the mind of "some" drivers ?

    Unfortunately I think this "some" is increasing, and at a speed to fast for my liking. I fear it
    will not be long before cyclists are seen as deliberately putting themselves at risk if they venture
    on to the road, with all the repercussions that will entail.

    Today my local radio station constantly repeated that parents from a local school in Winnersh,
    Reading, had stopped their children cycling to school because the roads were too dangerous,
    following the death of a pupil on his bike (and it sounds cycle lane related).

    The radio station has already tried to introduce a blame element of 'no helmet' and that Lee woman
    has had her say, all before the inquest has reported.

    Even my children's school diaries had the skull advert on the back cover of every one this year.

    I believe there is a concerted aim to condition/brainwash everyone into believing cycling is
    dangerous and should be stopped.

    John B

  8. Digweed .. ;) said:

    Some people really wouldn't understand any other reply anyway .. and if you _had_ replied in a
    more subtle, funny, or indeed intelligent, manner, they'd have probably just ran you over
    ayway .. 😉

    Indeed. At one point during the altercation I seem to remember her revving her engine and moving
    towards me. Is this some sort of crime? Threatening behaviour perhaps? Deliberately threatening
    someone with a car is somewhat akin to wielding an axe is it not?

    Simonb

  9. ..................James Hodson said:

    I wonder what percentage of adult cyclists have passed their driving test?

    I have. We're a one (hardly used) car family. My wife commutes to London and I cycle to Hamble
    everyday. I drive our youngest to the childminder before setting off to work. This is a new
    arrangement and I hope to sort out a kiddie trailer soon; anyone know anybody selling secondhand?
    Funnily enough, I was asked by someone at work when I would get my licence back the other day!

    I had to put him straight and informed him that I actually *enjoy* cycling to work.

    Simonb

  10. In article said:

    Heheheh, keep an eye on your front garden .. especially in the wee small hours .. 😉 Personally, I
    would have cycled past my house and turned off some way past, or even into a different street ..
    but I'd rather be a coward .. 😉

    If threatened, I'd pretend that my house happened to coincide with the local police station -
    especially if my route cycles past it. There are a regular crowd of animal rights activists outside
    the industrial park that happens to house the gym I go to - and they can be quite threatening to
    anyone passing, even though there are two IT companies on the site too (both of which I nearly
    accepted jobs at). I know I'm cruel to Windows PCs at times, and make them crash lots, but they
    deserve it!

    - Richard

    --
    _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard dot Corfield at ntlworld dot com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Time is a
    one way street, _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ Except in the Twighlight Zone.

  11. "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Digweed .. ;) said:

    Some people really wouldn't understand any other reply anyway .. and if you _had_ replied in a
    more subtle, funny, or indeed intelligent, manner, they'd have probably just ran you over
    ayway .. 😉

    Indeed. At one point during the altercation I seem to remember her revving her engine and moving
    towards me. Is this some sort of crime? Threatening behaviour perhaps? Deliberately threatening
    someone with a car is somewhat akin to wielding an axe is it not?

    It's your word against hers ... and she knows where you live 🙂

    I always enjoy the fact that they're really wound up and will whinge about it for hours to their SO.
    Me, I just have a beer. 🙂

  12. Simonb tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:
    Digweed .. ;) said:

    Some people really wouldn't understand any other reply anyway .. and if you _had_ replied in a
    more subtle, funny, or indeed intelligent, manner, they'd have probably just ran you over
    ayway .. 😉

    Indeed. At one point during the altercation I seem to remember her revving her engine and moving
    towards me. Is this some sort of crime? Threatening behaviour perhaps? Deliberately threatening
    someone with a car is somewhat akin to wielding an axe is it not?

    Yup .. I believe they could be 'done' for this .. 😉

    --
    Digweed '79 Beamish RL 250, '85 Swift Corvette, '88 Ford Escort 1.6 Ghia, '95 Dyna-Tech CroMo Comp,
    '97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi, '02 Schumacher CAT 3000, '03 Losi Kinwald Triple-X, '03 Associated
    RC10 B4 .... 😉

  13. Richard Corfield said:

    I know I'm cruel to Windows PCs at times, and make them crash lots, but they deserve it!

    You are deluding yourself. They do it spontaneously.

    Guy
    ===
    ** WARNING ** This posting may contain traces of irony. chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

  14. Simonb said:

    Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.

    Coming down my road this evening after work (narrow road, cars parked either side), the car behind
    me starts beeping. Naturally, I cannot move over as there are cars parked all the way down. So I
    keep going. The beeping starts again. So I just stopped there in the middle of the road. I turned
    to the driver and asked why she was beeping at me.

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In
    disbelief, I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just
    move over!" I'm almost dumbstruck at this point and tell her that I have every right to cycle
    where I am in the road. Then she adds, (and this is the best bit) "I've passed my test. You
    need to get a life." And once again she tells me to move over. Now her kids in the back chirp
    in with "Just

    Quoted message said:


    Charming.

    Quoted message said:

    know -- so flame me) and carry on making my way down the road (making a point of staying right in
    the middle of it). Needless to say, she follows me beeping as she goes. Until I turn off in front
    of my house.

    I really hope they're not locals.

    Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Maybe she was just trying to wind me up. I certainly worked.

    Simonb

    I have a similar story.

    Yesterday I was crusing down an empty bus lane inside a long tailback of cars when I saw in my
    mirror a car behind me. Me being me and not in a hurry I slowed down and took up more of the road.
    The driver then decided to sound his horn. That was it, I stopped.

    Me "What's the problem." Him "Why are you going at 2 miles an hour?" Me "Because I can." Him
    "Move over!" Me "This is a bus lane, you're meant to be in that lane" pointing to the queue of
    cars. Him "You're not a bus." Me "True but if you would like to go back to the start of the bus
    lane to look at the sign you'll find that taxis and cycles are also alowed." Him "What, walk all
    the way back there?" Me "We can discuss this longer, I'm not in a hurry or you can go passed me
    in the correct lane."

    At this point he starts to indicate so I move off. He then starts to follow again. I carried on as
    slow as I could to the end of the lane making sure I was slower than the cars in the correct lane.

    I'm not normally confrontational but something in me just switched. I must admit I did actually get
    a buzz from it though, the extra adrenaline helped me up the next hill.
    --
    Mark

  15. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:17:10 +0100 someone who may be "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk>
    wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    The beeping starts again. So I just stopped there in the middle of the road. I turned to the driver
    and asked why she was beeping at me.

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop."

    You should have told her that you had just stopped.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
    keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  16. snip

    Quoted message said:

    I have a similar story.

    Yesterday I was crusing down an empty bus lane inside a long tailback of cars when I saw in my
    mirror a car behind me. Me being me and not in a hurry I slowed down and took up more of the road.
    The driver then decided to sound his horn. That was it, I stopped.

    Me "What's the problem." Him "Why are you going at 2 miles an hour?" Me "Because I can." Him
    "Move over!" Me "This is a bus lane, you're meant to be in that lane" pointing to the queue of
    cars. Him "You're not a bus." Me "True but if you would like to go back to the start of the bus
    lane to look at the sign you'll find that taxis and cycles are also alowed." Him "What, walk all
    the way back there?" Me "We can discuss this longer, I'm not in a hurry or you can go passed me
    in the correct lane."

    At this point he starts to indicate so I move off. He then starts to follow again. I carried on as
    slow as I could to the end of the lane making sure I was slower than the cars in the correct lane.

    I'm not normally confrontational but something in me just switched. I must admit I did actually
    get a buzz from it though, the extra adrenaline helped me up the next hill.
    --
    Mark

    I seem to remember a post similar to this some time ago where the driver was particularly
    aggressive and started bumping the back of the bike. There's a thin line between being in the right
    and being trashed.

    Ken
    ===
    Why are all the TV's silver?

  17. In article said:
    Simonb said:

    Never have I heard a better illustration of what goes on in the mind of some (and I emphasise
    that) drivers.

    Coming down my road this evening after work (narrow road, cars parked either side), the car
    behind me starts beeping.

    Quoted message said:

    She says, "Move over!" I say, "Where to?" She says, "I don't care, move over or stop." In
    disbelief, I ask why I should stop. She says, "You're a bike, I'm a car. I have priority. Just
    move over!"

    Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

    In the mind of "some" drivers ?

    Unfortunately I think this "some" is increasing, and at a speed to fast for my liking.

    It's not just anti-cyclist though - yesterday I was in my car and honked and flashed by the lorry
    behind me because I'd dared to want to turn right and had to wait for oncoming traffic, holding him
    up for 30 seconds.

    Cycling, I once asked a motorist why he'd hooted at me. His first attempt was a rather feeble "I
    wasn't sure which way you were going." I said "My being in the middle of the road with my right arm
    stuck out wasn't enough of a clue for you?" and he said "Erm, sorry."

  18. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Today my local radio station constantly repeated that parents from a local school in Winnersh,
    Reading, had stopped their children cycling to school because the roads were too dangerous,
    following the death of a pupil on his bike (and it sounds cycle lane related).

    The place in question is mid-way along a road with no junctions or entrances between the two
    roundabouts about half a mile apart. The pavement is on one side only and has been allocated to
    mixed use. Going home, the pavement is on the "wrong" side.

    One can only speculate whether it involved larking about or mechanical failure. Coincidentally,
    about a year ago we were driving somewhere near Norfolk, my wife at the wheel. The pavement was on
    our left and a boy was approaching riding hands off. He lost control and started a trajectory
    towards us which made my wife swerve. I think he was saved by the grass strip.

    David Roberts

  19. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:40:30 +0100, "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk> wrote:

    [SNIP]

    Quoted message said:

    I have. We're a one (hardly used) car family. My wife commutes to London and I cycle to Hamble
    everyday. I drive our youngest to the childminder before setting off to work. This is a new
    arrangement and I hope to sort out a kiddie trailer soon; anyone know anybody selling secondhand?
    Funnily enough, I was asked by someone at work when I would get my licence back the other day!


    Many moons ago, when I *had* lost my licence (D&D), I used to be dropped off about two or three
    miles from work by my mother and walked the rest og hwy. I was asked the same question, myself. A
    bit later on, when I was allowed to drive once again, I was asked the very same question. By that
    time, I'd come to enjoy the short walk from my drop-off point into work.

    Quoted message said:

    I had to put him straight and informed him that I actually *enjoy* cycling to work.


    Yegads, sir. You enjoy cycling? ;-)

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

  20. "Simonb" <sbennettatwiderworlddotcodotuk>typed

    Quoted message said:

    ..................James Hodson wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wonder what percentage of adult cyclists have passed their driving test?

    I should imagine about 90% of posters to URC have. I have...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

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