I've been Vandemanized

"Pete Rissler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey all,

Just received an email about the Bull Ranch - Cow Canyon Video. It seems a
well know opponent to MT biking is using the video to thrash Mountain
Biking. I was wondering why there was so many downloads, maybe I should

send

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him a thank you? I feel kinda honored. Below is the email. Just for your
information most of the trails in the video are Motorcycle Trails, still a
great place to ride. Now I need to go clean the road kill off my bike. If
only I can get off the couch because of my aching back.

Pete Rissler

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From: Mike Vandeman [[email hidden]]

Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:43 AM

To: Recipient list suppressed

Subject: Please Watch This Video!

It was shot from a mountain bike. It shows EXACTLY what a waste of time
mountain biking is. The riders pass through some beautiful country, but
obviously too fast to SEE or EXPERIENCE any of it! That's like treating
dancing as if it were just a means of getting from one side of a room to

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other. How sad!

You can also see the rutting that mountain biking causes in the trail. And
notice how the camera continually bumps up and down. The rider is
experiencing every one of those bumps. It would be amazing, if that

rattling

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didn't damage their bodies. I tried it once, on a dirt road. It was
absolutely the most unpleasant time I have ever spent in a park in my

life.

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Why anyone would want to do that to themselves (to say nothing of doing it
to the park, wildlife, and other trail users) is beyond me.

It is also clear that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be aware of all the small

animals

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and plants killed on this ride. The rider is going too fast, and has to

give

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his full attention to not crashing.

P.S. It's best to watch it over a high-speed Internet connection.

"Pete Rissler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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"Here's a video off our local mountain (Peavine) here in Reno, NV. About

7.5

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mins, 70 MB. Video shot in April.

tccycling.combull ranch cow canyon.mpg"Open ↗

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans
("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting

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dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

that looked like some fun ST indeed.

I like this statement " tried it once, on a dirt road. It was absolutely the
most unpleasant time I have ever spent in a park in my life"

So, because one person doesn't like it, understand it, or desire to do it,
nobody else should too? Good god man, that's what makes us all individuals.
If we all wanted the same experiences out of life we'd just be little robots
merely passing through a useless existence. Then again, this statement is
also coming from a person whose passions include the ham radio and
languages. because those are fun pastimes!

although Mikey claims to be anti-anything human in the environment, his
argument really loses credibiilty when he is complaining about MTB's in an
area where Motorcycles are allowed. then again, he's the perfrect picture
of hypocrisy anyway since he advocates an area totally devoid of human
interaction yet regularly hikes and enters the same wilderness that he says
we should stay out of.

count yourself honored that you were the example.

Michael

Pete Rissler said:

Hey all,

Just received an email about the Bull Ranch - Cow Canyon Video. It seems a
well know opponent to MT biking is using the video to thrash Mountain
Biking. I was wondering why there was so many downloads, maybe I should send
him a thank you?

Naw, its probably not him - you never realize how many people are on this
NG until you post a video!

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-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

Good gawd man! Mikey is starting to slip.. he has gotten slowly more nuts
over the years! Oh and his "look up non-sequitur" statement is proof.

recent vanderations twirling girth dirt.

sittingduck said:

Never again do I have to see anything with vanderman in the subject. (this
plus a couple of KF entries really cleans up the trash)

And the fact that his name isn't vanderman hasn't been a problem?

(granted, I have a similar entry because so many people think that's what
his name is)

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-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

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Can you slip some bulldozer and chainsaw ads in there too just for good
measure? We all now how mikey loves his bulldozer racing, and you can't
race bulldozers until you cut down all the really big trees.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com

With all the construction around Reno it wouldn't be hard to do.

Pete Rissler