I told you so.

LOL. Thanks. I needed a good laugh today. I feel better already.

Callistus Valerius said:

Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

I allege that you're an [censored]. Is that proof enough for you?

RichC

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

It's on the cover of this week's "L'Express" (French equivalent of Time
magazine), which is good reason for me to continue never buying it.

-ilan

Rich Clark said:

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

I allege that you're an [censored]. Is that proof enough for you?

The problem is that nobody cares. You have to pick your target more
carefully than that. Allege that Lance is an [censored] and it'll make the
cover of L'Express.

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Rich Clark said:

I allege that you're an [censored]. Is that proof enough for you?

The problem is that nobody cares. You have to pick your target more
carefully than that. Allege that Lance is an [censored] and it'll make the
cover of L'Express.

Better yet, allege that he's a terrorist and his own government will
lock him up and throw away the key.

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998

Time for you to start focusing on Kirsten Gum's breasts again...

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Quoted message said:

Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has

been

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Quoted message said:

involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998

Time for you to start focusing on Kirsten Gum's breasts again...

Those are fake too! Remember what PT Barnum said, "There's a sucker
born every minute". I'm not saying don't enjoy the spectacle of the tdf,
but don't assume it's real.

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has

been

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involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

I allege that you're an [censored]. Is that proof enough for you?

It's proof enough for me.

Andy Coggan

Who cares?

He has never tested positive for anything in his entire career as the
yellow jersey holder. Until he does, people can accuse him all they
want, it don't mean [censored].

I'm not that big of a fan of his, but he has done loads for exposure to
the sport. And like every other top cyclist, it doesn't matter how
he/she wins, doping will be the immediate accusation, regardless of
their talent, especially when the rider is so bi-polar loved/hated.

I want any one average person here (I know a few pros/semi-pros hang out
here, you're not allowed to play) to realistically tell me that even if
pros weren't doping that THEY could keep up with them in a race.

Bunch of armchair quarterbacks ..........

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Daremo said:

He has never tested positive for anything in his entire career as the
yellow jersey holder. Until he does, people can accuse him all they
want, it don't mean [censored].

[censored] dumbass cyclingforumsdotcom-moron (sorry, I let my inhibitions
go whenever I see cyclingforumsdotcom), see
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=1821315

Lance Armstrong--All American Hero
Born: 1999
Died: June 13, 2004
"I Never Tested Positive"

Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the spoken, detailed words
of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and Kathy Lemond, and others.
R. I. P.

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Who cares?

He has never tested positive for anything in his entire career as the
yellow jersey holder. Until he does, people can accuse him all they
want, it don't mean [censored].

I'm not that big of a fan of his, but he has done loads for exposure to
the sport. And like every other top cyclist, it doesn't matter how
he/she wins, doping will be the immediate accusation, regardless of
their talent, especially when the rider is so bi-polar loved/hated.

I want any one average person here (I know a few pros/semi-pros hang out
here, you're not allowed to play) to realistically tell me that even if
pros weren't doping that THEY could keep up with them in a race.

Bunch of armchair quarterbacks ..........

--

B. Lafferty said:

Lance Armstrong--All American Hero
Born: 1999
Died: June 13, 2004
"I Never Tested Positive"

Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the spoken, detailed words
of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and Kathy Lemond, and others.
R. I. P.

Brian--

Please spare me reading all the posts. Do Greg and Kathy Lemond have
something to do with this [censored]?

Steve

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--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY

Lance menace LeMond

Interviewé par le Sunday Times, Greg LeMond a témoigné de son peu d'estime
pour Michele Ferrari et il s'attend à recevoir un coup de téléphone de Lance
Armstrong. [...] Quelques semaines après la parution de cet article, [...]
Kathy, son épouse, vient le chercher à l'aéroport de Minneapolis-Saint Paul,
dans le Minnesota, où le couple réside. Alors qu'il s'installe sur le siège
conducteur du Station Wagon Audi de Kathy, le téléphone portable de Greg
LeMond sonne. «C'est Lance», murmure-t-il à sa femme en découvrant
l'identité de son interlocuteur.

Cette conversation téléphonique a eu lieu le 1er août 2001. Greg LeMond
refuse d'en évoquer la teneur. En vertu d'un accord conclu avec Trek, l'un
des principaux sponsors de l'équipe US Postal et l'un des distributeurs des
vélos de la marque LeMond, il s'est engagé à ne pas parler publiquement de
celui qui lui a succédé au palmarès du Tour de France. Rien n'empêche en
revanche Kathy, son épouse, de témoigner. [...] Voici, donc, selon Kathy
LeMond, le contenu de cette conversation:

«Greg, c'est Lance.

- Salut! Lance, qu'est-ce que tu fais?

- Je suis à New York.

- Ah, OK.

- Greg, je pensais que nous étions amis.

- Je le pensais aussi.

- Pourquoi as-tu dit ça?

- Sur Ferrari? Eh bien, il y a un truc qui ne va pas avec Ferrari. Je suis
déçu que tu voies quelqu'un comme lui. J'ai un problème avec ce type et avec
les médecins de son espèce. Ma carrière a été abrégée, j'ai vu un coéquipier
mourir, j'ai vu des coureurs propres être détruits et obligés de renoncer à
leur carrière. Je n'aime pas ce qu'est devenu notre sport.

- Oh, ça va, tu vas peut-être me dire que tu n'as jamais pris d'EPO?

- Qu'est-ce qui te fait dire que j'ai pris de l'EPO?

- Allez, tout le monde prend de l'EPO.

- Pourquoi penses-tu que j'en ai pris?

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B. Lafferty said:

Lance Armstrong--All American Hero
Born: 1999
Died: June 13, 2004
"I Never Tested Positive"

Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the spoken, detailed

words

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of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and Kathy Lemond, and others.
R. I. P.

Brian--

Please spare me reading all the posts. Do Greg and Kathy Lemond have
something to do with this [censored]?

Steve

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--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY

B. Lafferty said:

Lance menace LeMond

Interviewé par le Sunday Times, Greg LeMond a témoigné de son peu d'estime
pour Michele Ferrari et il s'attend à recevoir un coup de téléphone de Lance
Armstrong. [...] Quelques semaines après la parution de cet article, [...]
Kathy, son épouse, vient le chercher à l'aéroport de Minneapolis-Saint Paul,
dans le Minnesota, où le couple réside. Alors qu'il s'installe sur le siège
conducteur du Station Wagon Audi de Kathy, le téléphone portable de Greg
LeMond sonne. «C'est Lance», murmure-t-il à sa femme en découvrant
l'identité de son interlocuteur.

Cette conversation téléphonique a eu lieu le 1er août 2001. Greg LeMond
refuse d'en évoquer la teneur. En vertu d'un accord conclu avec Trek, l'un
des principaux sponsors de l'équipe US Postal et l'un des distributeurs des
vélos de la marque LeMond, il s'est engagé à ne pas parler publiquement de
celui qui lui a succédé au palmarès du Tour de France. Rien n'empêche en
revanche Kathy, son épouse, de témoigner. [...] Voici, donc, selon Kathy
LeMond, le contenu de cette conversation:

«Greg, c'est Lance.

- Salut! Lance, qu'est-ce que tu fais?

- Je suis à New York.

- Ah, OK.

- Greg, je pensais que nous étions amis.

- Je le pensais aussi.

- Pourquoi as-tu dit ça?

- Sur Ferrari? Eh bien, il y a un truc qui ne va pas avec Ferrari. Je suis
déçu que tu voies quelqu'un comme lui. J'ai un problème avec ce type et avec
les médecins de son espèce. Ma carrière a été abrégée, j'ai vu un coéquipier
mourir, j'ai vu des coureurs propres être détruits et obligés de renoncer à
leur carrière. Je n'aime pas ce qu'est devenu notre sport.

- Oh, ça va, tu vas peut-être me dire que tu n'as jamais pris d'EPO?

- Qu'est-ce qui te fait dire que j'ai pris de l'EPO?

- Allez, tout le monde prend de l'EPO.

- Pourquoi penses-tu que j'en ai pris?

Well, my French is vestigial at best, but I get the drift. Greg is a
real stand-up kinda guy.

Steve

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has

been

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Quoted message said:

involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998

Time for you to start focusing on Kirsten Gum's breasts again...

Those are fake too! Remember what PT Barnum said, "There's a sucker
born every minute". I'm not saying don't enjoy the spectacle of the tdf,
but don't assume it's real.

By this statement are you say that the riders are all on performance
enhancing drug or are you taking the existential pov that nothing is
truely real since everything is clouded by the abberation that is our
5 senses?

If you are suggesting the latter I would ask you to prove your
postulation by standing on the decent of the Col de la madeleine on
July 22nd with eye's closed wearing ear muff's, and nose plugs.

If you are suggesting the former. Why would that make it fake? Who
cares if people are in the peleton are doped. It seems to me that far
less are doped in cycling than baseball, football or soccer, since
cycling has much more stringent controls. In fact it seems to me that
cycling probably has far less drug use than any other cross-section of
the population, Even if they aren't so what? It doesn't make the tdf
fake. if anything, if the majority of the peleton is drugged up, it
makes the tdf more real, as most of the population is taking some sort
of performance enhancing drug. be it viagra to keep the [censored] up,
celebrex so grandma can play tennis, to Allegra and claritin, and
Ritalan, and prozac and etc...Just turn on the TV and you can't avoid
this [censored], we have even got drugs to make you pee less! Since the
world started keeping score, people started cheating. I ask you, what
does it matter to me if they are all drugged? Nothing. The only people
it matters to are their un-drugged competitors and they don't seem to
be yelling all that loudly.

B. Lafferty said:

- Oh, ça va, tu vas peut-être me dire que tu n'as jamais pris d'EPO?

- Qu'est-ce qui te fait dire que j'ai pris de l'EPO?

- Allez, tout le monde prend de l'EPO.

- Pourquoi penses-tu que j'en ai pris?

The report is obviously bogus. Even with a name like "Le Mond", I
refuse to believe that TWO Americans could have such a conversation in
colloquial, fluent French comme ca.

"Steven" wrote ...

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By this statement are you say that the riders are all on performance
enhancing drug or are you taking the existential pov that nothing is
truely real since everything is clouded by the abberation that is our
5 senses?

If you are suggesting the latter I would ask you to prove your
postulation by standing on the decent of the Col de la madeleine on
July 22nd with eye's closed wearing ear muff's, and nose plugs.

Impressive use of the word postulation, but subjectivity does not obviate
objectivity, Kant notwithstanding.

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If you are suggesting the former. ... It doesn't make the tdf
fake. if anything, if the majority of the peleton is drugged up, it
makes the tdf more real, as most of the population is taking some sort
of performance enhancing drug.

What is, is right? Thought we left anything goes/nothing matters back with
the dwindling oil supply.

Jim "KISS" Flom

Thank goodness this another load about Armstrong doping. I was
getting pretty tired of Ronald Reagan threads.

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Lance Armstrong--All American Hero
Born: 1999
Died: June 13, 2004
"I Never Tested Positive"

Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the spoken, detailed words
of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and Kathy Lemond, and others.
R. I. P.

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Who cares?

He has never tested positive for anything in his entire career as the
yellow jersey holder. Until he does, people can accuse him all they
want, it don't mean [censored].

I'm not that big of a fan of his, but he has done loads for exposure to
the sport. And like every other top cyclist, it doesn't matter how
he/she wins, doping will be the immediate accusation, regardless of
their talent, especially when the rider is so bi-polar loved/hated.

I want any one average person here (I know a few pros/semi-pros hang out
here, you're not allowed to play) to realistically tell me that even if
pros weren't doping that THEY could keep up with them in a race.

Bunch of armchair quarterbacks ..........

--

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Vindicated !

A soon-to-be-published book entitled "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of
Lance Armstrong" alleges that the five-time Tour de France winner has been
involved in doping since recovering from cancer in 1998.

I allege that you're an [censored]. Is that proof enough for you?

RichC

All the proof I need !
Must be like christmas for Lafferty..........

OMC