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  1. KH20 trials or Onza trials.

    What I've heard (all info is second-hand):

    KH20: Pros:
    - Strong hub + cranks
    - Solid all around Cons:
    - Ankle ripping

    Onza: Pros:
    - Lighter
    - Less expensive
    - Strong hub + cranks Cons:
    - Haven't heard any

    But yet I keep hearing the KH is better. PLease help. All
    input is welcome.

    Thanks David

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  2. I have an onza and it has served me well, personly i think
    it look's better than the kh, there basicly the same, then
    it go's down to looks,- choose whichever you think looks the
    coolest cause in the end they basicly do the same thing,
    your not going to get more out of one than the other,
    whatever you decide on. so choose on looks. thats my advise
    hope it helps.

    :eek:

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  3. That's the best advice I've gotten. Everyone kept telling me
    to go with the KH but they wouldn't give reasons. I think
    I'll go with the Onza because of the price (and the look).

    Thanks for the reply David

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  4. You're right about the looks! The Onza is prettier and
    lighter. There is at least one Onza owner on this forum who
    had problems with a loose keyway (spindle-to-hub interface).
    That is the only problem I've heard of and I can't say
    whether it was a fluke or not. Go with your heart, I say.

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  5. I had loose keyway problems with the Onza and so have a few
    others. I heard that someone (I think muniracer) had bashed
    their crank so where it fitted onto the axle was ovalised
    and wouldn't turn to let them take the crank off. Since I
    sorted that out I have had no problems. Tho I have a KH
    crankset on my muni and I haven't had any trouble full stop.
    Plus other brank bike cranks fit them I think.

    I still think I'd go for the Onza trials tho. Not sure
    why, probably

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  6. Thats ok, let us know what you got or getting.

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  7. one wheeled stallion said:

    *I had loose keyway problems with the Onza and so have a
    few others. *

    I have a loose keyway on my KH20. I dont think that should
    be a reason to NOT get the onza since both unis are
    susceptible.

    I think one con of the onzas could be the frame. The crown
    is not angled and grippy like the KH. This isnt a big
    issue though.

    I think i would still go with the onza. 🙂

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  8. the gallery is down as of now, but when its back up check
    out the hell on wheel gallery (link in my sig). click on
    photos then trip's onza. you will see how the key way has
    been completely destroyed from crank nd pedal grabbing. thi
    has happened ot a couple onza users and im pretty sure no kh
    users. i have had the uni for 4 months and it looks like ill
    have to replace the entire wheelset sometime soon.

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  9. This is all great stuff. I have seen Trip's Onza and that is
    pretty messed up. But I think because of price, weight, and
    a gut feeling I'm going to go with the Onza. Now its just
    the choice of where to buy. Unicycle.com Usa is like $180
    (my canadian money) more than the one on unicycle.com Uk.
    Any reason? I'm not afraid of paying shipping, so I think
    The obvious choice is Uk. What are your thoughts?

    Thank you David

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  10. mango said:

    *I have a loose keyway on my KH20. I dont think that
    should be a reason to NOT get the onza since both unis are
    susceptible. *

    You've got a loose keyway with a KH20? Are you sure
    it's the keyway in the hub and not the cranks slipping
    on the splines?

    The KH hub has what I consider to be the best keyway design.
    It's a better keyway design than the Onza and Profile. I
    think Steve Howard has a picture of the KH keyway design in
    one of his galleries, but the gallery is down right now so I
    can't verify. Steve's gallery is 'here'
    (unicyclist.comshoward). I'd be a bit
    surprised if the KH hub developed keyway slop, unless that
    particular hub was machined out of tolerance. Conversely, I
    almost expect a Profile hub to develop keyway slop
    eventually. I don't know about the new and improved Onza
    double keyway design.

    When comparing the Onza be sure to differentiate between the
    first generation and second generation Onza hubs. They made
    some improvements to the second generation hubs.

    The DM splined hub I have on my DM Vortex is not going to
    ever have any keyway slop because there is no keyway. The
    hub flanges are welded right to the spindle. Worst case
    scenario is that a weld cracks, but that is very unlikely.

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  11. WHEN COMPARING THE ONZA BE SURE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE
    FIRST GENERATION AND SECOND GENERATION ONZA HUBS. THEY MADE
    SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SECOND GENERATION HUBS.

    Thanks I always noticed the difference but was never sure if
    there was still achance of being sold the first genereation.
    I'll be sure to make that clear.

    Thanks David

    Ps. what's the proper way to take a quote?

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