I started hand signlaling today

Arpit said:

I didnt feel as geeky as i thought i would 🙂 and i had no problems
balancing. Daily 'training' on downhill courses helped with that 🙂 I
don;t think its really gonna make a difference though. WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

When we meet up in a group ride, we do the right things... We drop a
closed right fist to say I'm stopping, flutter open and close a right
fist to say I'm slowing down, left or right hand's fingers pointing down
to say there's a <gthumlp!> oops, too late, hole in the road, a wave
forward to say 'take the front', or a hand with a pointed finger to say
my turn-off is here, good riding with you.

Why then are we so reticent to do the hand-signals that would tell
non-bicycle traffic (bicycles ARE traffic) what we are doing?
Admittedly, there's no law anymore that says we have to stick our arms
out to say we are turning (and what should you be expected to do, when
you're braking, changing gears, and steering 'round a corner anyway?)

Guess it's just a matter of pragmatism. I give turning hand-signals so
that car drivers don't kill or seriously injure me. I've pushed the
fact that I feel like a complete dork giving hand-signals somewhere back
into my subconscious with the... hey, you don't want to know...

Yep. It's funny and odd, and something that's practical and also
philosophical...

With you there, Arpit..

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p

Arpit said:

I didnt feel as geeky as i thought i would 🙂 and i had no problems
balancing. Daily 'training' on downhill courses helped with that 🙂 I
don;t think its really gonna make a difference though. WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

I find myself using handsignals only when I want to let other
road users know my intentions.

Their use builds better motorist/cyclist relations. I often get
a cheery wave when I've signaled to show that I'm turning off, so
that a motorist knows they don't have to wait for me.

John

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I didnt feel as geeky as i thought i would 🙂 and i had no problems
balancing. Daily 'training' on downhill courses helped with that 🙂 I
don;t think its really gonna make a difference though. WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

I dont care about looking dorky. I care about being alive. If you drive a
car and see people in other cars make moves without signalling it sure
irritates me. I provide that level of courtesy. I am sure most appreciate
it.

Pete

"Arpit" wrote

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WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

You waved your arm or something? :-)

Theo

Well, i just stayed to one lane on busy roads, doing just leeft turns,
and using pedestrian crossings for crossing the 6 lane roads. on notn
busy rods, if i was turning id position my bike at an angle so it was
obvious which direction i was going.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:50:28 GMT, "Theo Bekkers" <[email hidden]>

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"Arpit" wrote

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WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

You waved your arm or something? :-)

Theo

Theo Bekkers said:

"Arpit" wrote You waved your arm or something? :-) Theo

<hello, *waves back*>

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I didnt feel as geeky as i thought i would 🙂 and i had no problems
balancing. Daily 'training' on downhill courses helped with that 🙂 I
don;t think its really gonna make a difference though. WHen i didnt
signal, I always made it obviosu what I was going to do.

I dont care about looking dorky. I care about being alive. If you drive a
car and see people in other cars make moves without signalling it sure
irritates me. I provide that level of courtesy. I am sure most appreciate
it.

Pete

Sorry - "me too" post.

Cars have lights for brakes and turning.

I drive a car (on weekends, mostly.) Brake lights are an involuntary
indicator that gives other road users information about what my car and
other cars are doing or intend to do.

Turn lights/indicators also give other road users information about what
my car and other cars are doing or intend to do, but they are activated
under the volition of the car driver.
If you wanna see (slow, but nevertheless) hairy traffic, go to (my
/furusato/) Tasmania, where using your car's indicators is the exception
instead of the rule (snippet from My Odd Life: "Ah Dad, man, you know I
love you, but you're in Victoria now, and I know everyone's giving us a
lot of leeway because you've got a Tasmanian numberplate, but, please,
please, can you use your blinkers when you change lane or turn corners?
I'll still be your loving son if you don't, but FU#KIN' JEEZ-A-FU#KN'
CHRXT YIPES, Dad! Mum, we can vote 2 to 1 let me drive the rest of the
way?"

Bikes have neither brake lights nor indicators. This means
non-bike-riding car drivers don't have a clue what we're doing at even
the best of times. Hand signals at least give them some information.

OK, so it's
a) just about impossible to give a hand signal when you are
cornering+changing gears+braking; and,
b) really dorky to give hand signals.

In a perfect world... well, you know what.

But in the real world, start hand signaling today.

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p

ps: did I say this was a "me too post"? Umm, guess I did.

Fred Nieman wrote:
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(snippet from My Odd Life: "Ah Dad, man, you know I
love you, but you're in Victoria now, and I know everyone's giving us a
lot of leeway because you've got a Tasmanian numberplate, but, please,
please, can you use your blinkers when you change lane or turn corners?
I'll still be your loving son if you don't, but FU#KIN' JEEZ-A-FU#KN'
CHRXT YIPES, Dad!

Should be corrected to:
"but... FU#KIN' JEEZ-A-FU#KN' CHRXT YIPES, Dad, you missed that little
Barina also going 110 km/h that was in the other lane that didn't know
you were trying to get into the left-hand lane for the turn-off by
f##ckin' millimetres. Dad!"

and i forgot to close the brackets on
"Mum, we can vote 2 to 1 let me drive the rest of the way?"😉

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Bikes have neither brake lights nor indicators. This means
non-bike-riding car drivers don't have a clue what we're doing at even
the best of times. Hand signals at least give them some information.

OK, so it's
a) just about impossible to give a hand signal when you are
cornering+changing gears+braking; and,
b) really dorky to give hand signals.

In a perfect world... well, you know what.

But in the real world, start hand signaling today.

[censored]
p

ps: did I say this was a "me too post"? Umm, guess I did.

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Fred Nieman wrote:
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(snippet from My Odd Life: "Ah Dad, man, you know I
love you, but you're in Victoria now, and I know everyone's giving us a
lot of leeway because you've got a Tasmanian numberplate, but, please,
please, can you use your blinkers when you change lane or turn corners?
I'll still be your loving son if you don't, but FU#KIN' JEEZ-A-FU#KN'
CHRXT YIPES, Dad!

Should be corrected to:
"but... FU#KIN' JEEZ-A-FU#KN' CHRXT YIPES, Dad, you missed that little
Barina also going 110 km/h that was in the other lane that didn't know
you were trying to get into the left-hand lane for the turn-off by
f##ckin' millimetres. Dad!"

That's strange. My newsreader has changed "[censored]", "jesus", and "christ"
to the irritating politically correct versions...
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oye, where's my slab?

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BTW, did anyone else watch the UCI Champs on SBS this morning?

AWWWWW WHAT?! Did I miss another SBS cycling thingo?!

Damn! When are they gonna start promoting these things properly?
I suppose I have to check their website weekly or something to
find out when stuff is being covered?

hippy
mumble moan groan no ride this weekend sob moan

T'was a [censored], [censored] weekend for it. I missed out on critical mass Friday,
because I wasn't prepared to take the crazy bike through the city across wet
tram tracks in high winds in the pissing rain and heavy traffic. Dammit,
there had better be a decent few days this week, coz my bums sore from
watching videos inside!!!!

Currently working on a new silly bike. Just finished building it today.
Found the tiniest kids bike frame I have ever seen, and put an 800mm seat
post on it to make it rideable!!! Crank length is about 100mm or
something...
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Top-posting-a-rama, but...

Your slab? Umm, I don't get it. What did I miss here? Was it the q.
about whether there were actually any twins in The Thompson Twins or
Cocteau Twins, or was it about Stanley Knife-ing the back par6ts of your
brake-shoes so you get instant toe-in?
(ps: my mum tells me that the bike path now extends even further than
just from the Glenorchy footie club grounds all the way to the Cenotaph)

Oye (whatever that means) right back atcha, cfsmtb!

[censored]

p

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Fred Nieman said:

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oye, where's my slab?

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That's strange. My newsreader has changed "[censored]", "jesus", and

"christ"

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to the irritating politically correct versions...
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With all due respect, DFM-dawg (as I believe Young Folks These Days
say)... J@zus [censored] XR$T, trüst me, it isn't your f#cking Microsoft
Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 newsreader that's ch@nged all the
swear-words, it's the þrospect of a future employer doing a gõõgle
grõups (née DajaNews) séarch on my féckin' email identity...

ps: love and péace

Nay wuckas, but who gives a furry freckle what someone can find out about
you in usenet ??? Anyhow, why not make a fake name up with a fake email, and
post without fear o' future retribution???

And as for the newsreader stuff, I couldn't give a [censored] about what I use. I
have Agent too, but the benefits are small, and Mozilla doesn't have any
more features that are gonna make usenet any less full of idiots with
worthless opinions (present company excluded of course!!!), thus my cares
lie elsewhere.

BTW, say -dawg at the end of someones name is an American expression, and
American anything is well and truly out of fashion at the moment (would you
believe????). Try 'crikey' or any other Aussie expression instead!!!

:o)
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Fred Nieman said:

Top-posting-a-rama, but...I started something that I can't finish

true, but it's only a little jape, now have your morn coffee after the
Sunday ride.

In regards to hand signals, a good acedote on the CM list, watch for a
twept in a white ute with tinted windows & rego starting with TBC
around the CBD. Dunno about flipping the bird back, but sure wouldn't
mind if a flock of seagulls poo'ed on the duco or the driver was
swooped on by a hungry Powerful Owl.....

BTW, did anyone else watch the UCI Champs on SBS this morning?

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BTW, did anyone else watch the UCI Champs on SBS this morning?

AWWWWW WHAT?! Did I miss another SBS cycling thingo?!

Damn! When are they gonna start promoting these things properly?
I suppose I have to check their website weekly or something to
find out when stuff is being covered?

hippy
mumble moan groan no ride this weekend sob moan

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That's strange. My newsreader has changed "[censored]", "jesus", and "christ"
to the irritating politically correct versions...
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With all due respect, DFM-dawg (as I believe Young Folks These Days
say)... J@zus [censored] XR$T, trüst me, it isn't your f#cking Microsoft
Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 newsreader that's ch@nged all the
swear-words, it's the þrospect of a future employer doing a gõõgle
grõups (née DajaNews) séarch on my ƒéckin' email identity...

ps: love and péace

p

Deep Freud Moor said:

BTW, say -dawg at the end of someones name is an American expression,
and American anything is well and truly out of fashion at the moment
(would you believe????). Try 'crikey' or any other Aussie expression
instead!!! DFM

Wow, you learn a new thing everyday. According to my 16 yo cattle dawg,
the correct spelling of dawg is "dawg". She certainly ain't American,
more like Queensland Heeler. Seeing that this thread has gone wildly
[OT], I'll briefly mention that Miss Betty's having a bike trailer (sag
wagon) especially built for her. crikey.

See, there was a bike reference in there somewhere. Now back to
handsignals etecetc.

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Wow, you learn a new thing everyday. According to my 16 yo cattle dawg,
the correct spelling of dawg is "dawg". She certainly ain't American,
more like Queensland Heeler. Seeing that this thread has gone wildly
[OT], I'll briefly mention that Miss Betty's having a bike trailer (sag
wagon) especially built for her. crikey.

See, there was a bike reference in there somewhere. Now back to
handsignals etecetc.

Struth! Did someone say Kona Dawg? Mmm dual suspension of belief...
Core Blimey Cobber! I'd give one'a them a red 'ot go!

hooroo!
hippy
getting drunk early for cup day training...

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That's strange. My newsreader has changed "[censored]", "jesus", and

"christ"

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to the irritating politically correct versions...
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With all due respect, DFM-dawg (as I believe Young Folks These Days
say)... J@zus [censored] XR$T, trüst me, it isn't your f#cking Microsoft
Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 newsreader that's ch@nged all the
swear-words, it's the þrospect of a future employer doing a gõõgle
grõups (née DajaNews) séarch on my féckin' email identity...

ps: love and péace

Nay wuckas, but who gives a furry freckle

Can we nae skip the "furry freckle" references, like?

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what someone can find out about
you in usenet ??? Anyhow, why not make a fake name up with a fake email, and
post without fear o' future retribution???

Ah kent aw wae ye seein, man DFM, but hee naes what some radge [censored]...
oops, sorry, I'm reading an Irvine Welsh book at the moment, and it's
kind of contagious...

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And as for the newsreader stuff, I couldn't give a [censored] about what I use. I
have Agent too, but the benefits are small, and Mozilla doesn't have any
more features that are gonna make usenet any less full of idiots with
worthless opinions (present company excluded of course!!!), thus my cares
lie elsewhere.

Sound! - Ah agree wae ye man DFM, an wae ye CFTSM, hen ... sorry, let's
start again.

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BTW, say -dawg at the end of someones name is an American expression, and
American anything is well and truly out of fashion at the moment (would you
believe????). Try 'crikey' or any other Aussie expression instead!!!

Fest Ah hurd aboot callin "-dawg", ae wa frae a Canadian ...

I swear I'll stop this idiocy next email...

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