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  1. I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

  2. Kevin--- hope you'll consider giving low carbing a chance. You sound a
    lot like me....and for me this is the only 'diet" I can even imagine
    being able to stay on for life.

    The thing you may not know is (sure surprised me) when you start LCing,
    even tho you will be consuming lots of fat, your BP, cholesterol and
    triglycerides will actually go DOWN, not UP. Normally, the body uses the
    carbs we eat for energy, and stores the fat we eat....often in the
    vessels. But when the carbs are severely restricted, the body is forced
    to burn and use the fat we take in....it's amazing.

    Also, after the first couple of days, you will find your appetite
    virtually dissapearing, as far as 'craving" high carb goodies.

    I feared life without pasta, bread and potatoes and rice would be
    difficult if not impossible----but to my surprise, those foods I used to
    love so much dont call out to me and instead, I look foreward to my big
    salad and steak dinner...t's hard to feel deprived when you're enjoying
    butter, eggs, cheese, a good steak with mushrooms......

    Check out the Atkins site, or pick up one of the books. The on-line
    Atkins site will tell you how to begin the Induction phase---the first
    two weeks of limiting carbs to 20 gms a day. Most folks lose a
    substantial amount of weight in this 2 week period, then you gradually
    beging to add 5 gms of carb a week to find at what number you continue
    to lose and at what number you will stay at for life to mantain your new
    healthy weight.

    There's so many great success stories in here----no reason you wont be
    one of them!

    Jump on in and celebrate Life.

    LassChance

  3. Kevin said:

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    Hi Kevin,

    welcome here in the wonderful world of low carb 🙂

    You wrote the key word in your message: determined. If you are determined to
    make it work and stick with it, you will - and we'll be here to give you
    good advice, sarcastic comments or whatever you amy need 😉

    You wrote you are going to start your program today. Would you tell us about
    your program? What kind of eating plan are you going to follow?

    Petra in Hamburg, Germany

  4. Kevin wrote:
    :: I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning
    :: and sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and
    :: saw a side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be!
    :: I'm a male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and
    :: 42 waist pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have
    :: man-[censored]. I suffer heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and
    :: lethargy.

    I'm curious...do you wear your pants up around your navel or below your
    belly?

    ::
    :: I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat.

    Fat, in the absense of lots of carbs, won't hurt you (excluding trans fats,
    that is).

    I've yo-yo
    :: dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    :: in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    :: I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can
    :: get into easily (I've done so before).

    Good. Details, please.

    My problem is sticking to the
    :: program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    :: for the long term.
    ::
    :: I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    :: eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    :: long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    :: week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    :: diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel
    :: great, think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of
    :: it back.
    ::
    :: So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    :: going to start my program today.

    Red flag: What did the dietician tell you?

    :: I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    :: criticism.

    Learn about low carbing from people who do it every day and who intend to
    keep doing it every day.

    I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    :: some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    :: sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    :: I can take a good shot.
    ::

    Good. You'll need to get a thick skin quickly to hang here.

    :: And there you have it.
    ::

    So, what's your plan?

    :: Kevin

  5. At 311 I was comfortable with 2X shirts, but 3X is not surprising. However,
    my waist size was about 62. 42 sounds small to me.

    Low carb needs to be a Way-Of-Life. Returning to high carbs after losing
    weight with low carb seems to be the path to regain.

    A good place to start is with the book, Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution
    (DANDR). Once you are into things, you may wish to look at variations. My
    variation is adding calorie counting to the context of the low carb appetite
    reduction. I also make sure I get lots of fat (by percentage).

    Cubit
    311/159.2/150

    "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

  6. At 311 I was comfortable with 2X shirts, but 3X is not surprising. However,
    my waist size was about 62. 42 sounds small to me.

    Low carb needs to be a Way-Of-Life. Returning to high carbs after losing
    weight with low carb seems to be the path to regain.

    A good place to start is with the book, Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution
    (DANDR). Once you are into things, you may wish to look at variations. My
    variation is adding calorie counting to the context of the low carb appetite
    reduction. I also make sure I get lots of fat (by percentage).

    Cubit
    311/159.2/150

    "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

  7. Don't worry about the high-fat aspect of low-carbing. That's just
    years of food-pyramid disinformation talking to you.

    If you low-carb and stick to it, in a year you could be at your goal
    weight, no heart palpitations, sleeping well, and full of energy. Your
    blood pressure and bloodwork will be normal, and you'll be eating all
    sorts of great food.

    Just do it. Don't look back. Go, man, go.

    Kevin said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

  8. "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin


    Welcome Kevin 🙂. With your determination to do the right things for
    yourself - and then doing them of course 🙂 - you should do well again.

    What did your dietician recommend? Which low carb plan will you be
    following? You need to use a plan that you'll be able to stick with for
    life, so you don't find yourself back where you started, of course...and the
    exercise habit will also serve you well!

    It will be great watching another success story unfold here, there are many,
    and quite a few of the men have really gotten quite buff, judging by their
    pictures, so you'll have quite a few role models also!

    Best to you!
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    http://lowcarb.owly.net

  9. "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin


    Welcome Kevin 🙂. With your determination to do the right things for
    yourself - and then doing them of course 🙂 - you should do well again.

    What did your dietician recommend? Which low carb plan will you be
    following? You need to use a plan that you'll be able to stick with for
    life, so you don't find yourself back where you started, of course...and the
    exercise habit will also serve you well!

    It will be great watching another success story unfold here, there are many,
    and quite a few of the men have really gotten quite buff, judging by their
    pictures, so you'll have quite a few role models also!

    Best to you!
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    http://lowcarb.owly.net

  10. "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    Hi Kevin,

    You sound just like my son, except he is only 20 yrs old. He started the
    diet in Jan. of this year and has lost 80 lbs. He feels SO much better. He
    took a break from the diet to have cake on his b-day, and is getting back on
    it. I hope you give it a try.

    P.T.

    Quoted message said:


    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

  11. Kevin,

    Welcome to the group. As noted, the key is determination.

    I look at LC as the difference between tactics and strategy. Tactics
    are things you do day to day to make your business or strategy
    successful. Strategy is the larger long range plan (in business 3-5
    years). Strategy requires commitment, and committment is not just
    committment to do things but also to forgo things because they don't
    fit with the strategy. Tactics should reinforce the strategy.

    To bring this to weight loss / healthy living:
    Making the choice to lose the weight is picking a goal. The master
    strategy (for me and most here) is "doing Atkins" or "Protein Power" or
    whatever program they are doing. Cutting the carbs is a tactic within
    doing Atkins, as is exercise. If you are clear about your goals, and
    clear on your strategy, the tactics should become obvious, and the day
    to day choices should be greatly simplified.

    I talked about committment. I am committed to lifting weights 3 times a
    week and doing cardio 3 days as well. I am committed to not eating a
    lot of things I liked a lot (that got me into this condition... Damn
    you Popeye's and your cheap fried chicken!) I am committed to learning
    new foods (veggies were not part of my diet before LC, and are slowly
    becoming a larger part of if). Since I know the goal, and the strategy,
    and have the proper determination, all I have to do is execute and I
    shouldn't fail.

    My advice to you is be specific about where you want to go with this
    early on. Then you can figure what are the best tools to get there (for
    me, it's Protein Power, weight lifting and a couple of cardio options
    for variety). Make your goals achievable (though you'd be amazed at
    what can be achieved with this) and concrete.

    Best of luck to you.

    Hollywood

  12. "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and


    An excellent start!

    ....

    Quoted message said:

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am


    Too often "dietician's" are mired in yesterday's "common knowledge". Could
    you please embellish on that discussion (up to the limits of what modesty
    and privacy will permit, of course...)?

    Quoted message said:

    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed


    You'll find no shortage of that here. Best polish up on your skin
    thickening exercises...(:-o)!

    Quoted message said:

    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.


    Oh, not to worry. Unfortunately, something as ideologically charged as
    personal responsibility--which is what any kind of "dieting" is--is always
    going to attract it's own crop of detractors, trolls, and psycho-adherents.
    The full spectrum I'm afraid...

    Quoted message said:

    And there you have it.


    As others have pointed out, your use of the word, "determination," is the
    key issue in your post. The exact nature of what you ingest--as well as
    just about everything else--is really secondary to that.

    Pretty well the folks that post here fall into 3-groups:
    1 - Intolerant, wild-eyed proponents of "anti-Atkins" products, concepts, or
    food-choices; and LC failures that need to find fault with the method as
    opposed to their own inability to succeed.

    2 - Those that have adopted the LC concept and may or may not necessarily be
    Atkins proponents. Some have succeeded wildly, some have only succeed
    mildly. Some just enjoy the company and the LC WOE.

    3 - Intolerant, wild-eyed "pro-Atkins" zealots. No word of his writings nor
    syllable of his name may be used in any manner other than as they dictate.
    Any mention of the slightest deviation from his hallowed teachings will be
    met with utter distain, derision, and abuse. They genuflect on their knees
    at the alter of LC, and dare any of the heretics to challenge them that
    success can come from other avenues.

    Don't worry, you'll soon learn to sort them out.

    FWIW; I've been doing LC (without initially knowing of Dr. Atkins) for many
    years. It works. In the mean time here's some of the things I've learned:
    1. Drink lots of water!

    2. Don't fall for all of those 'ersatz foods that everybody and their food
    company will want to sell you. You don't need "Atkins Bars" to succeed; or
    fake pancake powder; or replacement 'LC' bread; or 'LC' cereal; or fancy
    'LC' drinks, and so on. You're partly in the fix you're in because you
    flocked to the non-LC version of those things in your previous (pre-LC)
    life! You don't need a foot-tall stack of pancakes or waffles slathered
    with syrup for breakfast. Nor do you need a foot-tall stack of 'ersatz
    allegedly 'LC' pancakes or waffles as their replacement. All you're doing
    is continuing to feed your bad habits. And all that it'll get you is an
    easy slide back into your old habits and WOE.

    3. Drink lots of water!

    4. Nothing is for free! EACH EXTRA POUND of fat on you is the result of
    you lifting, biting off, chewing, and swallowing an extra 3,500 or so
    calories. Don't blame your mother, Twinkies, your neighbor, me, or the life
    you're living. You did it. 'Fess up to it and move on (which you've
    already kinda done). Despite posts you might find in this NG, you've got to
    make a determined effort to limit your food intake. And LC is just the
    ticket. By not starting what I call your 'sugar-cycle' in the morning,
    you'll find that you can easily manage without problem until evening. I eat
    a bit of cheese, an egg, or a slice of some sort of meat rolled up. Lunch
    is a similar issue--if and when I feel like eating it (I most often realize
    around 1600hrs. that I missed lunch--a (very small) piece of meat and
    sometimes a salad or sliced up tomato from the evening before. In the
    afternoon I may snack on some fruits or veggies (that'll set off the
    hard-core Atkins zealots...(:-o)!) if I feel like it. For dinner we have a
    typically LC meal. We never have cereal, pastries, "sweets" in general, or
    potatoes any more; and rarely any rice or pasta (and then only very small
    amounts), and rarely more than a slice or two of bread/day. And that I bake
    myself. It's sourdough, mostly whole grain, and I can count all the
    ingredients on one hand--not to mention you don't need a dictionary to say
    their names--and most important, it's fairly LC. If you're gonna eat a
    carb, make 'em count! I eat fresh fruits & veggies, or one of my slices of
    bread. No garbage allowed!

    5. Drink lots of water!

    6. Don't make a big fuss like some of the folks posting here that try to
    replace each and every "comfort food" with an LC replacement. Just stop
    eating them! You don't need ice-cream. So eating an LC ice-cream is just
    another nail in your coffin on the path back to personal failure. Because
    it gives you the false sense of progress as you happily sit astride your old
    habits. Then, if you really, really want an ice-cream (let's say you're out
    with your kids or grandkids on a warm afternoon) treat yourself to a real
    ice-cream! Just make it a small one. You don't need breakfast cereal,
    soda's, Jell-O, jam, chips, doughnuts, cakes, noodles, rice, potatoes,
    gravy, and so on--and you don't need their LC replacements! Just don't eat
    them. Get out of "the habit" of wanting them in everything you swallow.
    That's the only sure way to success. Anything else is a band-aid and
    half-measure, and will never lead you to taking charge of your eating
    activities.

    7. Drink lots of water!

    8. Enjoy the process. If this is a drudgery that you have to steel
    yourself every morning to tackle, you may as well pack it in. You can not
    succeed. Meals are so much simpler and easy to make now. A meat of some
    kind, and a salad or other veggies is the usual. That's lots easier than
    having to make high-carb "fillers" in addition to the meal. And, as others
    posting here have mentioned, eat some fresh fruit and/or veggies if you feel
    like a snack. After an initial period where you feel like a fish in the
    toilet, you'll find that all of those "favorite things" that you just had to
    eat, don't call so loudly any more. And when their siren song fades into
    background noise...you'll know that you've won! And you'll know that *you*
    did it!

    9. Drink lots of water!

    10. Exercise! The simple formula is that you weigh what you weigh as a
    result of "calories-in" - "calories-out". And no, it's not exactly that
    simple, but that's the overall measure. Reducing the calories-in is one
    step, increasing the calories-out is another. You'll loose little more than
    water-weight if you continue to live at the cal-in/cal-out level that you've
    established. You don't have to run marathons or pump endless tons of iron.
    But you should do something that will make you burn more calories than what
    you expend in bending your arm and chewing (:-o)! Lance Armstrong consumes
    around 10,000 calories on a "heavy" day. But he expends most of his almost
    right away. You & I don't. You don't have to run out and get a $1,000 gym
    membership. You can start by walking...and increase the pace and distance
    as your weight comes down and you see progress.

    I used to be the absolute master of "low-fat" cookery. I biked, walked,
    worked out, and did stuff every day. Yet my weight kept slowly creeping up.
    I was doing all the right things, and getting all the wrong results. Do you
    know what the definition of stupidity is? It's when you do or take some
    action, and don't get the result you want. That's what's known as dumb.
    Now, if you continue to do that, and continue to not get the result you
    want--but expecting it, that's stupid! In the late '80's I happened to have
    a chance to go to Europe and visit long unmet relatives. And guess what I
    found? *I* was eating carefully 'low-fat', and *they* were happily eating
    all of the things I _used_to_ eat. I guess it would be redundant to mention
    that they were all more-or-less thinner than I. And that's when I began my
    personal quest to understand and implement a better way of living.

    Well that's about it. Not really a complicated thing to do as some here
    would have you believe. Nor is it dead simple, as long as you replace
    everything you ever ate with an LC equivalent. You can learn a lot reading
    here. As I'd mentioned, there are folks from all over the spectrum
    reading/posting here. By and large you'll get good advice. But make it a
    personal point to learn and understand how LC works. Whether you become an
    Adkins, South-park, or other more "planned" LC adherent, doesn't matter.
    What matters is that you get the useless carbs outta your life! Don't focus
    on replacing everything [censored]-for-tat with something else, change. Eat what
    you must. Avoid wasted calories and carbs. Do that, and you'll do just
    fine my friend...

    Oh, and did I mention? Drink lots of water!

    You've taken the first steps...now let's finish this journey...

    Later,
    DustyB

    Quoted message said:


    Kevin

  13. You need to lay out your program, goals, etc.
    --

    Kevin said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

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    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    Hi Kevin, welcome to the group! I've been on low-carb for over 2 years
    and plan to stick with it for the rest of my life because I FEEL so much
    better while eating this way.

    There HAS been more negativity here lately -- this is partly due to an
    influx of new posters that aren't actually posting to ASDLC, but to some
    web forums that are then posting those WEB posts to this newsgroup (and
    vice-versa -- your post is probably showing up on their forums as if you
    had posted THERE, not in ASDLC). I know it pisses ME off, but I've
    learned not to blame the posters for it since they may not even be aware
    that their posts are being manipulated that way.

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  15. Kevin said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

    Hi, Kevin :-)

    Pity it takes a "wide screen shot" to get our attention, eh? Good for
    you that you noticed. I've been seeing a stranger in my mirror for a
    long time. Glad I finally figured out who she was!

    The only advice I have is to choose a program and get the book. Too
    many people "try LC" without a plan. Pick one, get the book, and read
    it, read it, read it. And *follow it*. Don't try to "roll your own".
    Not at this point.

    Good luck to you! :-)

    August Goals: Keep BGLs in normal range; Not hungry, don't eat
    Weight: 23 pounds gone (whoop!)
    Measurements: 9 inches gone 06/19/2005
    Cholesterol: 145
    FBG: <110 since 07/01/2005 A1c 6.8! Ack!

  16. Sometimes I get the feeling, newbies pop in for a post and then never check
    back to see if anyone replied.

    "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    At 311 I was comfortable with 2X shirts, but 3X is not surprising.


    However,

    Quoted message said:

    my waist size was about 62. 42 sounds small to me.

    Low carb needs to be a Way-Of-Life. Returning to high carbs after losing
    weight with low carb seems to be the path to regain.

    A good place to start is with the book, Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution
    (DANDR). Once you are into things, you may wish to look at variations.


    My

    Quoted message said:

    variation is adding calorie counting to the context of the low carb


    appetite

    Quoted message said:

    reduction. I also make sure I get lots of fat (by percentage).

    Cubit
    311/159.2/150

    "Kevin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm very disgusted with myself. I was getting dressed this morning and
    sat on the bed to put on my socks. I looked in the mirror and saw a
    side profile of myself. What a whale I've turned out to be! I'm a
    male, 38, 5'8", and I weigh 312 lbs. I wear XXXL shirts, and 42 waist
    pants. The bulk of my weight is my gut, and I have man-[censored]. I suffer
    heart palpitations, trouble sleeping, and lethargy.

    I've tried low-carb, but I was concerned about high fat. I've yo-yo
    dieted a few times, but over the past two weeks, I have cut down
    in-between meal eating, and have been drinking water and diet sodas.
    I'm getting ready to start an exercise program, which I know I can get
    into easily (I've done so before). My problem is sticking to the
    program long-term, but escpecially finding a program I can stick to
    for the long term.

    I've lost weight before, and found it easy. The problem is that I was
    eating 800-1000 calories a day... no sustainable (or healthy) for the
    long term. I exercised 60-90 minutes daily, allowed myself a treat a
    week (usually a club with fries, and I had no problems following the
    diet afterward). After losing half my desired weight, I'd feel great,
    think I could handle eating more, but I'd only gain most of it back.

    So why am I here? I saw a dietician, got some good advice, and am
    going to start my program today. I'm hoping for support, advice, and
    criticism. I've lurked here for a while in the past, and I've noticed
    some people enjoy slamming others... which I find as amazing as it is
    sad (classic need to feel superior by belittleing others). That said,
    I can take a good shot.

    And there you have it.

    Kevin

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    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes I get the feeling, newbies pop in for a post and then never check
    back to see if anyone replied.

    Sometimes I get the feeling that you have Asperger's Syndrome.

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  18. Cubit said:

    Sometimes I get the feeling, newbies pop in for a post and then never check
    back to see if anyone replied.

    you know, not everyone checks the group every hour on the hour to see if
    you've dispensed any pearls of wisdom for them. the original post isn't
    even a day old yet.

  19. You find my posts too repetitive?

    Maybe you would want to give me Ritalin?

    "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

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    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes I get the feeling, newbies pop in for a post and then never


    check

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    back to see if anyone replied.

    Sometimes I get the feeling that you have Asperger's Syndrome.

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  20. LOL. "Ass burgers."

    Saffire said:

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    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes I get the feeling, newbies pop in for a post and then never check
    back to see if anyone replied.

    Sometimes I get the feeling that you have Asperger's Syndrome.

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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