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  1. ...I did anyway. Chase after the car that is.

    I'm not normally inclined towards this sort of behaviour,
    but seeing as the incident took place at the turn off to the
    street where I live, I thought perhaps something should be
    said if only to avoid possible future unpleasantness.

    This is what happened. There is a rather peculiar double
    mini roundabout at a staggered junction just before the
    point where I turn right into our Crescent. I have adopted
    the strategy of moving to the right-hand side of the
    straight on lane in order to move to the centre of the road
    as I leave the roundabout(s). This puts me in a good
    position to turn right into the Crescent. Unfortunately for
    me many motorists can't see the sense in this manoeuvre and
    several have been known to demonstrate their displeasure by
    driving very close to me and in some cases shouting abuse.
    This evening's exponent of the Art Of Showing The Lycra
    Brigade How You Feel was behind me until just before I
    reached the right turn for the Crescent. There was a car
    waiting to turn right and another behind him waiting to go
    up the main road. The gentleman in question then made his
    move, he pushed between me and the second car in order to
    take up his place behind the car turning right. Not only
    did I have to move right to avoid being hit, I was also
    forced to cross the white line as I did so. I was not a
    happy bunny.

    That is where it would normally end, possibly with a shout
    of "Oi, [censored]!" as the car drives off into the distance.
    This time it was different, this time I knew I could catch
    up with the stupid bugger. The road he was turning down only
    goes to the Close or the Crescent. I followed him. He went
    into the Close and parked in his drive. I greeted him with a
    cheery "What was the point of that little episode back there
    then?". "What episode?" he replied. "The bit where you tried
    to push me off the road" says I, quick as a flash. I was
    building up to a good reasoned argument with somebody who
    was definitely going to lose, I was looking forward to it,
    one up for the Lycra Brigade and all that.

    He wasn't giving up easily though, he tried to turn the
    tables with a question of his own. "What were you doing in
    the middle of the road anyway?". Ooh, gotcha mate, I thought
    as I parried with right on my side. "Turning right!".

    Wrong answer. This guy knew all about cycling and how it
    should be done properly, how it used to be done by cyclists
    in his day. He went on to explain that I should wait at the
    left hand side of the road and cross when the road is clear
    of traffic. I was so sure I had been doing it right all this
    time, but I have been shown the error of my ways. So much
    for Cyclecraft and the Highway Code and all the U.R.C.
    gurus. They are all wrong. The only man who knows how to
    turn right on a bicycle is a belligerent old fart in the
    next road to me.

    Please take heed of this warning, he could be coming your
    way tomorrow.

    Terry Duckmanton

    --
    It's not me that's stopping you from overtaking, it's all
    them cars coming the other way!

  2. Terry D said:

    Wrong answer. This guy knew all about cycling and how it
    should be done properly, how it used to be done by
    cyclists in his day. He went on to explain that I should
    wait at the left hand side of the road and cross when the
    road is clear of traffic. I was so sure I had been doing
    it right all this time, but I have been shown the error of
    my ways. So much for Cyclecraft and the Highway Code and
    all the U.R.C. gurus. They are all wrong. The only man who
    knows how to turn right on a bicycle is a belligerent old
    fart in the next road to me.

    Since you know where he lives, perhaps you could leave a
    copy of the highway code under his windscreen wiper, with a
    note that he should keep his knowledge up to date.

  3. Terry D <[email hidden]> writed in
    news:jYLtc.81$984.10@newsfe5-win:

    Quoted message said:

    ...I did anyway. Chase after the car that is.

    Quoted message said:

    at a staggered junction just before the point where I turn
    right into our Crescent. I have adopted the strategy of
    moving to the right-hand side of the straight on lane in
    order to move to the centre of the road as I leave the
    roundabout(s). This puts me in a good position to turn
    right into the Crescent. Unfortunately for me many
    motorists can't see the sense in this manoeuvre and
    several have been known to demonstrate their displeasure
    by driving very close to me and in some cases shouting
    abuse. This evening's exponent of the Art Of Showing The
    Lycra Brigade How You Feel was behind me until just before
    I reached the right turn for the Crescent.


    Lots of the above snipped

    The blokes obviously a t*ssp*t - but the skool of 'ard
    knocks teaches us to treat all other road users as such.
    There's a similar arrangement near where I live, and
    experience has shown me that clear, unambiguous hand signals
    of where I intend going, along with defensive road
    positioning is the only way to approach it. Paradoxicly the
    junction I now have most encounters of the third kind tends
    to be the one at the end of my cul-de-sac. Most vehicles
    turn left, or right - it's only the few (select few!) who go
    straight on into the cul-de-sac. Pesuading the t*ssp*ts that
    I'm in the middle of the road and NOT turning right seems to
    be well nigh impossible.

    Mike - Leicester

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <jYLtc.81$984.10@newsfe5-win>, Terry D

    (') said:

    Wrong answer. This guy knew all about cycling and how it
    should be done properly, how it used to be done by
    cyclists in his day. He went on to explain that I should
    wait at the left hand side of the road and cross when the
    road is clear of traffic.

    Take his registration number and go and lodge a complaint
    at the police station. They will send someone round to
    talk to him.

    Hadn't thought of that. I'll have a chat with the plod
    contingent in the hostelry tomorrow evening. Less formal,
    more likely to get a result. Ta!

  5. Simon Brooke said:

    Take his registration number and go and lodge a complaint
    at the police station. They will send someone round to
    talk to him.

    That seems rather overoptimistic, based on my experiences
    with the police.

    I prefer Simon Proven's suggestion. I actually typed part of
    the HC along with a brief note and left it under the
    windscreen of a neighbour's white van a few years ago. I got
    much more room whenever he passed me after that.

    (Actually I like the suggestion of complaining to the
    police, as well, but realistically I'd expect to be fobbed
    off with an explanation of why they can't do anything
    without witnesses).

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my
    reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who
    dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  6. Mike Gayler said:

    The blokes obviously a t*ssp*t - but the skool of 'ard
    knocks teaches us to treat all other road users as such.
    There's a similar arrangement near where I live, and
    experience has shown me that clear, unambiguous hand
    signals of where I intend going, along with defensive road
    positioning is the only way to approach it. Paradoxicly
    the junction I now have most encounters of the third kind
    tends to be the one at the end of my cul-de-sac. Most
    vehicles turn left, or right - it's only the few (select
    few!) who go straight on into the cul-de-sac. Pesuading
    the t*ssp*ts that I'm in the middle of the road and NOT
    turning right seems to be well nigh impossible.

    Mike - Leicester

    I've been cycling the same route home for a shade over three
    years now. The last bit of the home stretch was scary at
    first, but I developed a way of dealing with it which made
    most of the other road users respect the fact that I was
    there and that I knew where I was going, even if they
    didn't. There are no cycle farcilities along this last
    stretch as a cyclist I am entirely on my own. The biggest
    problem is the number of cars which park on the right hand
    side of the road (as seen by me cycling homeward) forcing
    the oncoming cars to move into the centre of the road and
    restrict the available space. Hand signals are dodgy to say
    the least. If there are cars coming up on my left I like to
    let them know that I intend to turn right, but the oncoming
    vehicles make the process of sticking an arm out a bit of a
    gamble. I would hate to lose an arm just to let some t*ssp*t
    know that I was in the middle of the road for a reason.

    I think I can feel a letter to the local council coming on.

    And one to my MP.

    And possibly another to that Bob geezer on [censored]
    Britannia or whatever it's called. (Perhaps that last
    one was OTT?)

    Terry Duckmanton (aka "Annoyed a lot, of Guildford"😉

    :-)

    Don't worry about me too much, I'm going to watch England
    play the Barbarians tomorrow, I'll get rid of all the
    agression at Twickenham.

  7. Danny Colyer said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Take his registration number and go and lodge a complaint
    at the police station. They will send someone round to
    talk to him.

    That seems rather overoptimistic, based on my experiences
    with the police.

    I prefer Simon Proven's suggestion. I actually typed part
    of the HC along with a brief note and left it under the
    windscreen of a neighbour's white van a few years ago. I
    got much more room whenever he passed me after that.

    (Actually I like the suggestion of complaining to the
    police, as well, but realistically I'd expect to be fobbed
    off with an explanation of why they can't do anything
    without witnesses).


    I still favour a chat with Ex Inspector Plod down the pub.
    It's not what you know.....

    Terry D

  8. Danny Colyer said:

    (Actually I like the suggestion of complaining to the
    police, as well, but realistically I'd expect to be fobbed
    off with an explanation of why they can't do anything
    without witnesses).

    I used to be that jaded ;-) but a recent experience made me
    much more appreciative of the boys in blue. A pair of morons
    decide to buzz me close, the passenger leaning out of his
    window and giving me a shove as they passed, with the
    obligatory incoherent whoop. Got his registration but no
    witnesses, so didn't expect much. Police came round, took a
    statement, and phoned me back a few days later - they'd
    chatted with the driver twice, first at his house in front
    of his wife, then at his work (heheh). He'd had a sudden
    attack of amnesia, it seems, and forgotten who was in his
    car that day and indeed the entire incident - and
    regretfully, without witnesses and all, there wasn't a
    realistic chance of conviction - but in the words of the
    policeman, "he was scared [censored]" ;-)

  9. Quoted message said:

    few (select few!) who go straight on into the cul-de-sac.
    Pesuading the t*ssp*ts that I'm in the middle of the road
    and NOT turning right seems to be well nigh impossible.

    I suppose you've tried the old 'I intend to go straight
    ahead' sign for driver to policeman ahead.I usually raise my
    right arm to the side, flexed at 90deg at the elbow and try
    to exude confidence . Although it probably lacks modern
    official recognition I would say it still is understood if
    delivered sensibly and definitely in the right
    circumstance.I don't do it often. It helps to look them in
    the eye in a cheery way as well. Sometimes it may be clearer
    to point to where you are going. Some drivers are just not
    willing to think at all,but most will respond if you make
    the effort to be nice .

    Come to think of it I did 90 miles through notts and lincs
    yesterday and had not one single bad driver incident.The
    motorbikes seemed to be reasonably behaved.Even the
    unlicenced scramble bikes only were to be seen in remote
    fields where no-one was bothered.Perhaps I was high on
    endorphins and just didn't notice. TerryJ TerryJ

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