I just crashed/ beloki style

This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash isn't that similar to yours
except with respect to broken bones.

I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made a left hand turn across my
path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a descent. I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the
upper 20s (mph). Broke my pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my
lower left leg. I now have five permanent titanium screws holding my left leg together.

By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late January I was outdoors and doing
200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my best season ever and personal best times in a number
of the big centuries I do.

My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay fit while you're convalescing.
After I got out of the hospital, I was basically confined to this reclining chair and I was
non-weight bearing on the left leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in
the air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a complete lunatic, but people
were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a crash the doctors said should have killed me.

Best of luck in your recovery!

Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35 mph.
It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide out. Then
I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading

off

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the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was off

the

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pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with the direction of the turn,
but there was too much momentum heading off the

road. I

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braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left

colar

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bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung

slightly

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collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head too,

left

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side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout the inside. I really belive
the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their experience, maybe if it was an
injury like this. greg

On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first time by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left
hip, fractured the ball of the femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into
the air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated
it and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me
completely over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke my
nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the handlebars on my bike upward
to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both mentally and
physically. Each day, I find myself more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and
racing during the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and
work slowly and carefully at this time, there won't be a negative impact on my future racing (other
than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of additional shoulder damage in the
event of a crash).

I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay optimistic and motivated each day
when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of how far I've come and
how I've managed to beat a lot of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists
who were seriously injured and still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last
January, for instance, and he just finished a successful tour.

Good luck on your recovery.

Don

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash

isn't

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that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.

I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made a left hand turn across my
path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a

descent.

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I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph). Broke

my

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pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my lower left leg. I now have
five permanent titanium screws holding my left leg together.

By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late January

I

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was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my

best

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season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I do.

My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay fit while you're convalescing.
After I got out of the hospital, I was

basically

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confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the left leg for a long time. But
in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in the air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife
thought I was a complete lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a

crash

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the doctors said should have killed me.

Best of luck in your recovery!

Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide
out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading

off

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the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was

off

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the

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pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with

the

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direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off the

road. I

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braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left

colar

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bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung

slightly

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collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head too,

left

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side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout

the

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inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
experience, maybe if it was an injury like

this.

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greg

"don vescio" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

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On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first

time

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by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of

the

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femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into

the

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air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated it
and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me completely
over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke

my

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nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

Damn -- that is horrible!

I was hit by a car 6 weeks ago -- the poor fat chick driver was sitting in the left turn lane then
decided she had to get in the right-hand lane for some idiotic reason.

Her tire caught my shoe, scraped off and then caught my chainstay and tacoed my rear wheel
instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway, I
did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick
give me a ride home. I was going about 22 mph when she hit me and her about 7 mph.

That sucked and I am glad I was not hurt (small bruise only) but feel badly for you.

-Ken

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I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the

handlebars

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on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both
mentally and physically. Each day, I find

myself

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more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing durin

g

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the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly and
carefully at this time, there won't be a

negative

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impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of
additional shoulder damage in the event of a

crash).

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I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay

optimistic

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and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of
how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a

lot

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of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured and
still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance, and
he just finished a successful tour.

Good luck on your recovery.

Don

My chain of events was actually quite similar to yours. I hit her right front fender at the wheel
well. That broke my hip and pelvis and the edge of the wheel well caused the lacerations to my leg.
Then I went into the windshield. Eye witnesses said I glanced off the windshield and went way up in
the air. I also landed squarely on my head -- causing the compression fracture to my spine. I was in
the air for a long enough time to have two thoughts: 1) God, that first impact really hurt and 2)
God, is this second impact going to kill me? It didn't. But I came to rest laying squarely on the
hip that was all but fractured clear through. Naturally, nobody would move me despite my begging. It
was absolutely brutal. But I wouldn't have moved me if I were them, either.

In the emergency room, the doctor said, "If you weren't in such great shape, that crash would have
killed you ..." I replied, "I owe my condition to the bike." ;-)

Bob C. "don vescio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first

time

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by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of

the

Quoted message said:

femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into

the

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air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated it
and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me completely
over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke

my

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nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the

handlebars

Quoted message said:

on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both
mentally and physically. Each day, I find

myself

Quoted message said:

more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing

during

Quoted message said:

the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly and
carefully at this time, there won't be a

negative

Quoted message said:

impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of
additional shoulder damage in the event of a

crash).

Quoted message said:

I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay

optimistic

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and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of
how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a

lot

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of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured and
still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance, and
he just finished a successful tour.

Good luck on your recovery.

Don

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash

isn't

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that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.

I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made

a

Quoted message said:

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left hand turn across my path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a

descent.

Quoted message said:

I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph). Broke

my

Quoted message said:

pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my lower left leg. I now
have five permanent titanium screws holding my

left

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leg together.

By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late

January

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I

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was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my

best

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season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I

do.

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My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay

fit

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while you're convalescing. After I got out of the hospital, I was

basically

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confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the

left

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leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in

the

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air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a

complete

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lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a

crash

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the doctors said should have killed me.

Best of luck in your recovery!

Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide
out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was

heading

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off

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the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was

off

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the

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pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with

the

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direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off the

road. I

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braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My

left

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colar

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bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung

slightly

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collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head

too,

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left

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side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout

the

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inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
experience, maybe if it was an injury like

this.

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greg

Wow, that sounds rough. I work in a rehab hospital and believe me the last thing i ever want is a
severe head injury.

On Thursday I had a crash, but not nearly as bad. I was rear ended in the middle of the right lane
at a stoplight. The car launched the bike, with me attached thanks to clips and straps, five or six
feet forward into the intersection. I landed on my right side and spent the next few seconds
wondering if I could get my right foot out of the clip before being run over by oncoming traffic.
Luckily I did get my foot out and was able to get out of the intersection safely. I wasn't badly
hurt, a broken toe and sprained ankle on my left foot, a stiff lower back, and a chainring bite on
my right ankle. As far as the bike, taco’d rear wheel, bent rear derailleur & hanger, bent
chainstay, bent seatstays and bent rear rack. This was with a chromoly frame.

The lady who hit me (really nice, sincerely apologetic, and more shook up from the accident than
myself) gave me a ride to work, and bought me a brand new Cannondale this afternoon. :-)

NEPTUNIUM said:

I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35 mph.
It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide out. Then
I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading off the road and into the
trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was off the pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the
pull out. I tried to roll with the direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading
off the road. I braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left colar bone
- broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung slightly collapsed. I didn't notice
at first but there was a lump on my head too, left side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it
is fractured thoughout the inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can
someone relate their experience, maybe if it was an injury like this. greg

psycholist said:

This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,

Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

-Gerard

I had the exact same experience--I was conscious the entire time and had similar thoughts when I
heard the sound that my body was making as it bounced off the car both times. The investigating
police and the hospital's trauma team both said that they couldn't figure out how I lived through
the accident, other than the fact that I was really fit from training. Also, this fitness has done
me well in rehab. Originally, it was projected that I wouldn't even be walking with assistance 'til
Labor Day; here I am now riding indoors and walking unassisted (and even able to keyboard on my PC,
for that matter).

I think that the hard part will be riding on the roads again. In eastern Massachusetts, there's lots
of cars around....

Take care-

Don

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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My chain of events was actually quite similar to yours. I hit her right front fender at the wheel
well. That broke my hip and pelvis and the edge of the wheel well caused the lacerations to my
leg. Then I went into the windshield. Eye witnesses said I glanced off the windshield and went way

up

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in the air. I also landed squarely on my head -- causing the compression fracture to my spine. I
was in the air for a long enough time to have two thoughts: 1) God, that first impact really hurt
and 2) God, is this second impact going to kill me? It didn't. But I came to rest laying squarely

on

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the hip that was all but fractured clear through. Naturally, nobody would move me despite my
begging. It was absolutely brutal. But I wouldn't

have

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moved me if I were them, either.

In the emergency room, the doctor said, "If you weren't in such great

shape,

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that crash would have killed you ..." I replied, "I owe my condition to

the

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bike." ;-)

Bob C. "don vescio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left

in

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front of me while I was on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first

time

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by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of

the

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femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into

the

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air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated
it and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me
completely over the

car,

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and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke

my

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nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery

five

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weeks ago (no repair was possible--the missing bone was crushed to

powder)

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and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago, when I was cleared to

begin

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walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've

been

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doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the

handlebars

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on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the

riding

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feels really good, both mentally and physically. Each day, I find

myself

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more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing

during

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the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly
and carefully at this time, there won't be a

negative

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impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting

anymore

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because of the risk of additional shoulder damage in the event of a

crash).

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I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay

optimistic

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and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with

recovery.

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I just keep thinking of how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a

lot

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of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured
and still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance,
and he just finished a successful tour.

Good luck on your recovery.

Don

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash

isn't

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that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.

I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone

made

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a

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left hand turn across my path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a

descent.

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I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph).

Broke

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my

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pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of

my

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lower left leg. I now have five permanent titanium screws holding my

left

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leg together.

By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late

January

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I

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was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my

best

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season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I

do.

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My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay

fit

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while you're convalescing. After I got out of the hospital, I was

basically

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confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the

left

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leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in

the

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air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a

complete

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lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a

crash

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the doctors said should have killed me.

Best of luck in your recovery!

Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
> mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to
> slide out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was

heading

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off
> the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I

was

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off

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the
> pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll

with

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the

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> direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off

the

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road. I
> braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My

left

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colar
> bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung
slightly
> collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head

too,

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left
> side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured

thoughout

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the

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> inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
> experience, maybe if it was an injury like

this.

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> greg

experience talking, I'm sure. [censored]. "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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psycholist said:

This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,

Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

-Gerard

"Ken Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...

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instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway,
I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing
chick give me a ride home.

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle Legate said:

"Ken Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...

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instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway,
I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing
chick give me a ride home.

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

I wonder how they fit two people and a bike on a Razor...

"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...

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"Ken Papai" <ken

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instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
no-seeing chick give me a ride home.

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
situation?

Ken Papai said:

"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...

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"Ken Papai" <ken

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instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
no-seeing chick give me a ride home.

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
situation?

I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error. There
is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.

Bret

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experience talking, I'm sure. [censored]. "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,

Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

-Gerard

Dumbass,

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Nice to meet you too, you booger-eating knuckle-dragging top-poster.

-Gerard

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Ken Papai said:

"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...

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"Ken Papai" <ken

>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just

retrued

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>the goddam thing!! Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and
>made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick give me a

ride

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>home.
>

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
situation?

I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error.
There is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.

Who said I didn't? I can vent on RBR but am not so immature as to vent to this fat, poor,
should-have-her-drivers-license-yanked woman.

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Bret

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"Ken Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...

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instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
no-seeing chick give me a ride home.

And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

lol

Dashii

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Ken Papai said:

"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...

>"Ken Papai" <ken
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>>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just

retrued

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>>the goddam thing!! Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of

balance

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>>and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick give me a

ride

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>>home.
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>And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
situation?

I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error.
There is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.

Who said I didn't? I can vent on RBR but am not so immature as to vent to this fat, poor,
should-have-her-drivers-license-yanked woman.

She (the fatso) got off easy, some guys would've ripped her head off and [censored] down her neck!

lol

Dashii

There are two categories of cyclists -

1) Those that treat crashes and road rash as "war wounds" and something to brag about. or 2) others
that look at road rash and crashes as a signal to be wary of that rider as a potential hazard.

Reading this thread, most people here fall in the first category.

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Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

psycholist said:

experience talking, I'm sure. [censored].

i couldn't figure the reason for psycholist's post and angry tone except that maybe he hasn't
experienced the constipating effect of injuries and pain killers (??)

i didn't go for a couple of days after they shot me full of demerol.

heather luvs talking about poo

Thanks for the encouragement. I am just beginning to feel ok. Almost able to take a full breath
since 3 days. I think I will be OK. thank you. greg