Hydration - A cautionary, topical tale

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Well now I've got a retched kidney stone lodged in my ureter - don't
ever wish this sort of pain on your worst enemy! (.... although
thinking about some of the drivers I've come across.....)

I went from your post to this (without realising I'd changed threads):

"It could be an over-tight cone, deformed balls, a knackered cone or a
pitted/cracked cup. You won't really know until you've taken it apart
and cleaned it up."

!!

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Mark

Mike the Unshavable <[email hidden]>typed

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I've been a cyclist for getting on for 40 years - I've done my fair share
of audaxing, touring and commuting (but only raced twice).
I've never, ever drunk enough.
I battled on through the heat, with the bare minimum of fluid on board -
surely dark concentrated urine is the sign of a real man 😉

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Well now I've got a retched kidney stone lodged in my ureter - don't ever
wish this sort of pain on your worst enemy! (.... although thinking about
some of the drivers I've come across.....)

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Among the questions the A&E doc asked me were "do you, or have, you taken
part in endurance sports?" - yup; "worked in a hot environment?" - yup.
So, I'm off the bike, and off the bike waiting to see if it's true that
all things do come to pass - and occasionally going "OUCH! that smarts!"

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So as it is writ by the masters (Velocio?) - Drink before you are
thirsty!

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There's a wealth of advice written on fluid and electrolyte balance and
intake while cycling any serious distance - if only I'd paid attention!

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Mike

Get well soon!

You certainly need to make sure you drink enough.

However, some people are stone formers, some are not; shame you found
out the hard way which you were...

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Mark Thompson
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Quoted message said:

Well now I've got a retched kidney stone lodged in my ureter - don't
ever wish this sort of pain on your worst enemy! (.... although
thinking about some of the drivers I've come across.....)

I went from your post to this (without realising I'd changed threads):

"It could be an over-tight cone, deformed balls, a knackered cone or a
pitted/cracked cup. You won't really know until you've taken it apart
and cleaned it up."

!!

That pretty much sums it up!

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

However, some people are stone formers, some are not; shame you found
out the hard way which you were...

Is there an easy way?

--
Don Whybrow

Sequi Bonum Non Time

"Lord, please make me the kind of person my dog thinks I am."

Don Whybrow <[email hidden]>typed

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

However, some people are stone formers, some are not; shame you found
out the hard way which you were...

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Is there an easy way?

Some stone formers have others in the family and their blood
biochemistry may show some abnormalities.

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Don Whybrow said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

However, some people are stone formers, some are not; shame you found
out the hard way which you were...

Is there an easy way?

Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

sothach said:

Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

--
Dave...

"dkahn400" <[email hidden]>typed

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sothach wrote:

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Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

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Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Your body will keep your blood pH very close to 7.4 in health, whatever
you eat...

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sothach said:

Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Vinegar? Ptui!

Heathen.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Me, I wanna be an anglepoise lamp, yeah!

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sothach said:

Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Vinegar? Ptui!

Heathen.

Excellent with Brussels sprouts. :-)

--
Dave...

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"dkahn400" <[email hidden]>typed

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sothach wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
(acid) rain in no time...

Quoted message said:

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Your body will keep your blood pH very close to 7.4 in health, whatever
you eat...

It's more the acidity of the urine that's in question, isn't it? Hence
sothatch's recommendation of drinking kettle de-scaler for dissolving
kidney stones. However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

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Dave...

dkahn400 said:

However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

Blonde said:

I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

I always thought that it was acetic acid...
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Blonde said:

I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

I always thought that it was acetic acid...
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You are correct - it is acid.

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Blonde said:

dkahn400 said:

However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

Vinegar is basically dilute acetic acid, and kettle descaler is often
citric acid.

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dkahn400 said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"dkahn400" <[email hidden]>typed

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sothach wrote:

Quoted message said:

> Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
> (acid) rain in no time...

Quoted message said:

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Your body will keep your blood pH very close to 7.4 in health, whatever
you eat...

It's more the acidity of the urine that's in question, isn't it? Hence
sothatch's recommendation of drinking kettle de-scaler for dissolving
kidney stones. However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

Whether or not that's the case, is it really relevant when you consider
that our stomachs produce their own hydrochloric acid?

"Blonde" <[email hidden]>typed

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dkahn400 wrote:

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Quoted message said:

However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

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I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

Organic acids are 'weak' and their sodium salts are alkaline.

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Blonde said:

dkahn400 said:

However, I've just done a quick google and found a web
site that claims that drinking vinegar causes an immediate /drop/ in
the acidity of one's urine. There's a surprise if it's true.

I may be wrong, but..is an vinegar alkaline liquid, rather than acid?
Kettle de-scaler also?

Vinegar is basically dilute acetic acid, and kettle descaler is often
citric acid.

Some descalers are sulphamic acid, some are citric acid.
Acetic acid will also do the job.

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dkahn400 said:

Dave Larrington said:

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sothach wrote:

>Drink a pint of kettle de-scaler every morning - you'll be as right as
>(acid) rain in no time...

Will putting extra vinegar on my chips have the same effect?

Vinegar? Ptui!

Heathen.

Excellent with Brussels sprouts. :-)

and swede.