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  1. OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to buying a
    hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very much to all
    who replied to my initial post on the subject and am sorry
    to post again on the same subject.

    I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but cannot
    decide between them:

    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    d=21&index=7

    A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
    that my LBS stock them and that the spec of the components
    is slightly better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can
    anyone afford me an opinion as to whether the 501 is worth
    an extra £100. Other observations very welcome,
    particularly if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400
    bracket I have missed.

    I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders of
    each.

    For ease the links to each are posted above too.

    Thanks again

    S

  2. "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to buying
    a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very much to
    all who replied to my initial post on the subject and am
    sorry to post again on the same subject.

    I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but cannot
    decide between them:

    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    sid=21&index=7

    A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
    that my LBS stock them and that the spec of the components
    is slightly better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can
    anyone afford me an opinion as to whether the 501 is worth
    an extra £100. Other observations very welcome,
    particularly if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400
    bracket I have missed.

    I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
    of each.

    For ease the links to each are posted above too.

    I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the Dawes.
    My friend has the Nova, which is the same frame with less
    cogs and riser bars AFAIK, and it's a tad heavier than my
    Giant MTB, despite my MTB having front suspension. I'd be
    very surprised if the Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

  3. "Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
    buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very
    much to all who replied to my


    initial

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
    same subject.

    I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
    cannot decide between them:

    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    iesid=21&index=7

    A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
    that my LBS


    stock

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them and that the spec of the components is slightly
    better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can anyone afford
    me an opinion as to whether


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    501 is worth an extra £100. Other observations very
    welcome,


    particularly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400 bracket I
    have missed.

    I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
    of each.

    For ease the links to each are posted above too.

    I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
    Dawes. My friend has the Nova, which is the same frame
    with less cogs and riser bars AFAIK, and it's a tad
    heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB having front
    suspension. I'd be very surprised if the Dawes isn't a
    fair bit lighter.


    Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
    actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
    the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
    side. I hate pestering people but want to make the right
    choice as best I can and the information/opinions from
    peoplr more knowledgable than I is always something I pay
    attention to.

    Cheers

    S

  4. "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2k0qitF163froU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:


    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
    buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you
    very much to all who replied to my


    initial

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
    same subject.

    I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
    cannot decide


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them:

    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299


    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    d=21&index=7 <snippage>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
    Dawes. My friend


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
    riser bars AFAIK,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
    having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
    Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.


    Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
    actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
    the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
    side. I hate pestering people but want to


    make

    Quoted message said:

    the right choice as best I can and the
    information/opinions from peoplr


    more

    Quoted message said:

    knowledgable than I is always something I pay
    attention to.

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
    Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
    Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
    ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
    off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
    what's what 😄.

  5. Doki said:


    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2k0qitF163froU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:


    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
    > buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you
    > very much to all who replied to my


    initial

    Quoted message said:

    > post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
    > same subject.
    >
    > I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
    > cannot decide


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > them:
    >
    > Dawes Discovery 501 - £399
    >
    > dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp
    >
    > or
    >
    > Ridgeback Velocity - £299
    >
    >


    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    sid=21&index=7 <snippage>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
    Dawes. My friend


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
    riser bars AFAIK,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
    having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
    Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.


    Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
    actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I
    posted the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes
    side by side. I hate pestering people but want to


    make

    Quoted message said:

    the right choice as best I can and the
    information/opinions from peoplr


    more

    Quoted message said:

    knowledgable than I is always something I pay
    attention to.

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
    Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
    Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
    ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
    off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
    what's what 😄.

    I'm curious about the 28-spoked wheels on the Dawes - is
    this enough for touring?

    AC

  6. "anonymous coward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doki said:

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
    the Velocity will


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
    be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked
    at either bike, so I could


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
    and tell us


    what's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what 😄.

    I'm curious about the 28-spoked wheels on the Dawes - is
    this enough for touring?

    Those things do make me wonder, but I've seen pictures of
    MTBs with wheels with far too few spokes before. It *is* a
    hybird and not a tourer though.

  7. x-no-archive: yes

    Doki said:

    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2k0qitF163froU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    >OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
    >buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very
    >much to all who replied to my

    initial

    Quoted message said:

    >post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
    >same subject.
    >
    >I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
    >cannot decide

    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >them:
    >
    >Dawes Discovery 501 - £399
    >
    >dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp
    >
    >or
    >
    >Ridgeback Velocity - £299
    >
    >

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    sid=21&index=7 <snippage>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
    Dawes. My friend

    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
    riser bars AFAIK,

    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
    having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
    Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

    Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
    actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
    the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
    side. I hate pestering people but want to

    make

    Quoted message said:

    the right choice as best I can and the
    information/opinions from peoplr

    more

    Quoted message said:

    knowledgable than I is always something I pay
    attention to.

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
    Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
    Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
    ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
    off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
    what's what 😄.

    The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-
    cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

    I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
    have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
    different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
    Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes the
    wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of years.

    Peter

  8. "Peter Simons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:w7JCc.3974$pE6.293@newsfe4-gui...

    Quoted message said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
    the Velocity will


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
    be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked
    at either bike, so I could


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
    and tell us


    what's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what 😄.

    The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-
    cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

    I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
    have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
    different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
    Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes
    the wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of


    years.

    Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB weighs
    in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000 hardtail though.

  9. x-no-archive: yes

    Doki said:

    "Peter Simons" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:w7JCc.3974$pE6.293@newsfe4-gui...

    Quoted message said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
    the Velocity will

    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
    be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked at
    either bike, so I could

    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
    and tell us

    what's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what 😄.

    The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-
    cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

    I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
    have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
    different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
    Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes
    the wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of

    years.

    Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB
    weighs in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000
    hardtail though.

    Found a wight for the Ridge back the Dawes is very slightly
    lighter by 1 lb edinburgh-edinburgh-
    bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18558

    Peter

  10. x-no-archive: yes

    Doki said:


    Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB
    weighs in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000
    hardtail though.


    Found a weight for thw ridge bacl and it is 1 LB heaver than
    the dawes.

    edinburgh-edinburgh-
    bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18558

    But still lighter than a Marin in same price bracket edinburgh-edinburgh-
    bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18334

    and about the same as edinburgh-edinburgh-
    bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=19371

    Peter

  11. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Saint
    OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to buying a
    hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very much to all
    who replied to my initial post on the subject and am sorry
    to post again on the same subject.

    I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but cannot
    decide between them:

    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    d=21&index=7

    A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
    that my LBS stock them and that the spec of the components
    is slightly better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can
    anyone afford me an opinion as to whether the 501 is worth
    an extra £100. Other observations very welcome,
    particularly if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400
    bracket I have missed.

    I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders of
    each.

    For ease the links to each are posted above too.

    Thanks again

    S

    Right I know nothing about bikes really (I'm a horse rider) but have recently been in a similar position to you (but with a smaller budget - see horse comment!!). I was torn between a Dawes Discovery 301 and a Raleigh ?? (it was blue!). Having seen them both in the shop there was no competition, I bought the Dawes. It arrived on Monday, it's much lighter than my last one and it got me up a hill in fine style (never been known before). In short I really like the Dawes. I too did loads of research and then went into the shop and chose then one with the colour I liked best (how girly is that!). Anyway hopefully my new beastie will provide some fun trips out with OH and friends and help develop legs and general fitness for horse riding.

    Helena

  12. "Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

    dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.asp

    or

    Ridgeback Velocity - £299

    ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.asp
    sid=21&index=7

    I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
    of each.

    Thanks again

    S

    I have a Ridgeback Velocity, and am very happy with it. When
    I was looking, I tried to decide between the Dawes 401 and
    the Ridgeback, but couldn't find a LBS which had any Dawes
    in stock, so ended up with the Ridgeback.

    I am not a particularly knowledgeable cyclist, but have
    found no problems so far with the Ridgeback.

    HTH,

    Patrick

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