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  1. Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.

  2. PJx said:


    Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.


    There is a quote in one of his books where Dr. Atkins suggests fasting
    one day a week. I have most of his books including the ones from the
    early years but I'm not about to go through all of them to find the
    spot. So, maybe one of you youngsters with good memories remember
    where it is and can point a finger in the right direction. 🙂 The big
    secret to taking it off and keeping it off is finding a healthy
    mechanism (whatever it may be) where one eats less and exercises more,
    forever. I will eat too much no more forever. 😉
    Lee Rodgers
    Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
    CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
    Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

  3. Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there could
    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    PJx said:


    Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.

    -----
    Bev

  4. Jpegs.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there could
    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    PJx said:


    Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.

    -----
    Bev

  5. Especially when you go to bed. If I wake up hungry in the night I can't go
    back to sleep, not a good thing.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Why? What reward might you get?
    | I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    | since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there
    | could be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.
    |
    | on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |

  6. Or worse, eat something and then try to sleep with a full stomach. Very
    bad for digestion.

    FOB said:

    Especially when you go to bed. If I wake up hungry in the night I can't go
    back to sleep, not a good thing.

    -----
    Bev

  7. Bev-Ann said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there could
    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    I don't believe there is anything wrong with having a technically empty
    stomach for a while. Just because food is affordable and abundant does not
    necessarily mean we *must*, at all waking hours, have *something* in our
    stomach. I actually am starting to trust my biology, that when I eat
    something, my stomach will process it and empty accordingly, and the
    correct signal (hunger) will be demonstrably different from a craving.

    There is a difference between *being hungry* and purposely *starving*
    oneself. But I find that when I decrease the frequency of eating, it
    actually gives my stomach enough time to shrink somewhat and feel
    comfortable with less in it. That way I can portion size very easily.

    Just my opinion

  8. The general rule is, if you're hungry eat now, if you're starving you
    should have eaten 30 minutes ago. If you continue to ignore the hunger,
    your metabolism slows down.
    I'm not talking about keeping your stomach constantly full, because I don't
    do that either. But I don't have any hunger pangs when it is time for me
    to eat whichever meal for that time of day. If I'm not paying attention, I
    can forget to eat.
    I also never eat anything for at least 3 hours before bed to prevent poor
    digestion. And I'm not hungry when I wake up in the morning. That's just
    the beauty of LC eating, at least for me.
    The OP was talking about skipping meals and purposely being hungry. I
    strongly believe that is not a good thing.

    Crafting Mom said:

    I don't believe there is anything wrong with having a technically empty
    stomach for a while. Just because food is affordable and abundant does not
    necessarily mean we *must*, at all waking hours, have *something* in our
    stomach. I actually am starting to trust my biology, that when I eat
    something, my stomach will process it and empty accordingly, and the
    correct signal (hunger) will be demonstrably different from a craving.

    There is a difference between *being hungry* and purposely *starving*
    oneself. But I find that when I decrease the frequency of eating, it
    actually gives my stomach enough time to shrink somewhat and feel
    comfortable with less in it. That way I can portion size very easily.

    Just my opinion

    -----
    Bev

  9. Crafting Mom said:

    Bev-Ann wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there could
    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't believe there is anything wrong with having a technically empty
    stomach for a while. Just because food is affordable and abundant does not
    necessarily mean we *must*, at all waking hours, have *something* in our
    stomach. I actually am starting to trust my biology, that when I eat
    something, my stomach will process it and empty accordingly, and the
    correct signal (hunger) will be demonstrably different from a craving.

    I am always amused by some dieters who are so anxiously concerned that
    they might be hungry, as though simply being hungry were some unbearable
    misery. Maybe it's my farm upbringing, but there's a special pleasure to
    working up an appetite and sitting down to a good meal when you're really
    hungry.

    Quoted message said:

    There is a difference between *being hungry* and purposely *starving*
    oneself. But I find that when I decrease the frequency of eating, it
    actually gives my stomach enough time to shrink somewhat and feel
    comfortable with less in it. That way I can portion size very easily.

    I've noticed the same thing. I am satisfied with *considerably* less food
    at any given meal these days. It took some getting used to at first, but
    now I'm grateful since I think this will be my ticket to long-term
    maintenance.

    Before our New Year's Day pact, both my wife and I were very much 'three
    squares a day' sorts of people. Not much overmuch snacking, but plentiful
    home-cooked food at mealtimes and fast food to fill in when we were busy.
    And, of course, beer. Sigh...

    In the last year, especially, we've found we're happier with a less
    scheduled approach to meals. We've tried cooking ahead (we both cook) and
    freezing foods, and having lots of 'quick fix' reheatable small portions
    ready for small meals. Works great!

    It helps that the boys are out of the house, of course. Although, come to
    think of it, keeping them in groceries was cheaper than keeping them in
    college!

    Dan
    325/211/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

  10. That's why you're fat.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Especially when you go to bed. If I wake up hungry in the night I can't


    go

    Quoted message said:

    back to sleep, not a good thing.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Why? What reward might you get?
    | I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    | since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there
    | could be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.
    |
    | on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |

  11. You don't know what starving is.

    That's why you're fat.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The general rule is, if you're hungry eat now, if you're starving you
    should have eaten 30 minutes ago. If you continue to ignore the hunger,
    your metabolism slows down.
    I'm not talking about keeping your stomach constantly full, because I


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    do that either. But I don't have any hunger pangs when it is time for me
    to eat whichever meal for that time of day. If I'm not paying attention,


    I

    Quoted message said:

    can forget to eat.
    I also never eat anything for at least 3 hours before bed to prevent poor
    digestion. And I'm not hungry when I wake up in the morning. That's just
    the beauty of LC eating, at least for me.
    The OP was talking about skipping meals and purposely being hungry. I
    strongly believe that is not a good thing.

    Crafting Mom said:

    I don't believe there is anything wrong with having a technically empty
    stomach for a while. Just because food is affordable and abundant does


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    necessarily mean we *must*, at all waking hours, have *something* in our
    stomach. I actually am starting to trust my biology, that when I eat
    something, my stomach will process it and empty accordingly, and the
    correct signal (hunger) will be demonstrably different from a craving.

    There is a difference between *being hungry* and purposely *starving*
    oneself. But I find that when I decrease the frequency of eating, it
    actually gives my stomach enough time to shrink somewhat and feel
    comfortable with less in it. That way I can portion size very easily.

    Just my opinion

    -----
    Bev

  12. "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jpegs.


    Of who?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    PJx said:


    Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.

    -----
    Bev

  13. Of Bev-Ann, the one that thinks a person should never go hungry. It would be
    nice to see how that's working out for her.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Diane Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jpegs.


    Of who?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    > Yes, it's true.
    >
    > Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    >that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.
    >
    > Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    >growl and complain.
    >
    > Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.
    >
    > The result could be very rewarding.
    >

    -----
    Bev

  14. And here I thought you were going to send us some more pictures of you!!!
    Diane
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Of Bev-Ann, the one that thinks a person should never go hungry. It would


    be

    Quoted message said:

    nice to see how that's working out for her.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Diane Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jpegs.


    Of who?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    birth?

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Why? What reward might you get?
    > I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger


    pangs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there


    could

    Quoted message said:

    > be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.
    >
    > on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Yes, it's true.
    > >
    > > Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    > >that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.
    > >
    > > Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    > >growl and complain.
    > >
    > > Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.
    > >
    > > The result could be very rewarding.
    > >
    >
    > -----
    > Bev

  15. Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger pangs
    since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit there could
    be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.

    I tend to agree with you there.
    Some wish to fast. Some don't. I don't like the attitude that I should fast. Or
    that many are a pampered whatever, if I don't feel hunger pains, cramps, etc.

    I know what hunger is. Try growing up in poverty. Hungry, malnourished, sickly.
    Going to bed with hunger cramps at night.
    God is MY judge.

    Quoted message said:


    PJx said:


    Yes, it's true.

    Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so pampered
    that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.

    Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your stomach
    growl and complain.

    Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.

    The result could be very rewarding.

    -----
    Bev

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Atkins since 1/17/04
    267/189/135

    -See your life situations as simply opportunities for greater growth.-

  16. Sunshyne said:

    I know what hunger is. Try growing up in poverty. Hungry, malnourished, sickly.

    Don't always run together.

    Quoted message said:

    Going to bed with hunger cramps at night.

    Starvation and hunger are two different things. In your circumstances, I
    see why you fear hunger.

    Quoted message said:

    God is MY judge.

    Yes He is.

  17. Thinking doesn't seem to be your strongest suit.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Diane Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    And here I thought you were going to send us some more pictures of you!!!
    Diane
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Of Bev-Ann, the one that thinks a person should never go hungry. It


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be

    Quoted message said:

    nice to see how that's working out for her.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Diane Ball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Jpegs.
    Of who?

    >
    > --
    > Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough


    oxygen

    Quoted message said:

    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > birth?
    >
    >
    > "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > Why? What reward might you get?
    > > I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger


    pangs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > since starting LC and I really don't see what possible benefit


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    could
    > > be to going hungry. It would only slow down one's metabolism.
    > >
    > > on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Yes, it's true.
    > > >
    > > > Many of you don't even remember real hunger. You are so


    pampered

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > >that you think you have to eat just because the clock says so.
    > > >
    > > > Skip a couple of meals several times a week and let your


    stomach

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > >growl and complain.
    > > >
    > > > Go to bed on an EMPTY stomach for a change.
    > > >
    > > > The result could be very rewarding.
    > > >
    > >
    > > -----
    > > Bev
    >
    >

  18. Daniel Hoffmeister said:
    Crafting Mom said:

    Bev-Ann wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why? What reward might you get?
    I'm one of the many that hasn't felt more than one or two hunger
    pangs since starting LC and I really don't see what possible
    benefit there could be to going hungry. It would only slow down
    one's metabolism.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't believe there is anything wrong with having a technically
    empty stomach for a while. Just because food is affordable and
    abundant does not necessarily mean we *must*, at all waking hours,
    have *something* in our stomach. I actually am starting to trust my
    biology, that when I eat something, my stomach will process it and
    empty accordingly, and the correct signal (hunger) will be
    demonstrably different from a craving.

    I am always amused by some dieters who are so anxiously concerned that
    they might be hungry, as though simply being hungry were some
    unbearable misery. Maybe it's my farm upbringing, but there's a
    special pleasure to working up an appetite and sitting down to a good
    meal when you're really hungry.


    To defend some of the dieters you find so amusing, I think that it is
    perfectly legitimate for someone just beginning a diet to fear that dieting
    will cause some discomfort, because discomfort makes it harder to stick
    with. Although there are folks who will dispute this, it takes some will
    power to get through the initial stages of a diet, before one's appetite
    adapts to smaller quantities of food, and looking for ways to make that
    easier is just not an unreasonable goal. When someone is committed to
    weight loss, though, that person will fight through the initial discomfort
    and will then get the benefit of developing control over his or her
    appetite. I wouldn't minimize the accomplishment that represents.

    --
    carla
    http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

  19. I'd rather be fat than feel rotten from lack of sleep.

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | That's why you're fat.
    |
    | --
    | Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen
    | at birth?
    |
    |
    |||
    ||| on Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:38:35 -0500, PJx <[email hidden]> wrote:

  20. Sorry I don't have any jpegs, but I'm 5' 2.5" tall and weigh 109 pounds. I
    eat 3 meals + 2 snacks averaging around 2000 calories per day. It's
    working very well for me.

    Diane Ball said:

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Of Bev-Ann, the one that thinks a person should never go hungry. It would


    be

    Quoted message said:

    nice to see how that's working out for her.

    -----
    Bev

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