Hulda Clark assists suicide

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia of the
cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months, I've been
doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my dental
work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT have
a simple LEEP procedure and CURE the problem...rather than
waste valuable time with Hulda the quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three
months..and had already progressed to Class II B...that is
how quickly this can progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and
kicking...surgical removal ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing to
treat...by a REAL member of EOM...otherwise it CAN
kill....needlessly

hawki.....

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide From: Peter Bowditch
[email hidden] Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific
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<[email hidden]>

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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia of the
cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months, I've
been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT
have a simple

LEEP

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procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste
valuable time with

Hulda the

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quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three
months..and had

already

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progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can
progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and
kicking...surgical

removal

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ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing
to treat...by a

REAL

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member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

hawki.....

Jan and the rest can spew all they want about how wonderful
HC is, but the fact remains that Hulda and her minions are
absolutely deadly! Cure for All Diseases? Cure for All
Cancers? Cure for HIV/AIDS? [censored], [censored], and
[censored]! Hulda doesn't even have a cure for the common cold
let alone something life threatening like cancer. Jan, et
al. can call me a liar all they want, but the facts state
otherwise.

r

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 05:22:46 -0000, "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]>

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[email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in news:20040427231606.04129.00000337@mb-
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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide From: Peter Bowditch
[email hidden] Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific
Daylight Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia of the
cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months, I've
been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT
have a simple

LEEP

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procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste
valuable time with

Hulda the

Quoted message said:

quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three
months..and had

already

Quoted message said:

progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can
progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and
kicking...surgical

removal

Quoted message said:

ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing
to treat...by a

REAL

Quoted message said:

member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

hawki.....

Jan and the rest can spew all they want about how wonderful
HC is, but the fact remains that Hulda and her minions are
absolutely deadly! Cure for All Diseases? Cure for All
Cancers? Cure for HIV/AIDS? [censored], [censored], and
[censored]! Hulda doesn't even have a cure for the common
cold let alone something life threatening like cancer. Jan,
et al. can call me a liar all they want, but the facts
state otherwise.

Jan Drew is pure evil. Jan has admitted that Hulda does not
have the cure for all cancers. And yet despite acknowledging
this fact Jan will not rebuke those who suggest that a woman
with cervical dysplasia use quackery to treat it even though
this woman will likely die as a result.

Once again Jan Drew shows how little she cares for the
lives of others. She ONLY cares about falsely promoting
quackery and demonizing conventional medicine by propaganda
and lies. Sad that.

Aloha, Rich

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide From: Peter Bowditch
[email hidden] Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific
Daylight Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia of the
cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months, I've
been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT
have a simple LEEP procedure and CURE the problem...rather
than waste valuable time with

Hulda the

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quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three
months..and had

already

Quoted message said:

progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can
progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and
kicking...surgical removal ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing
to treat...by a

REAL

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member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

It causes me to tear my hair out , too.

At least two studies now suggest that cancer patients who
use alternative medicines have a worse prognosis than those
who don't.

The evidence is not yet conclusive, but it is quite
plausible that this should be so.

Alternative dogma is designed to delay the diagnosis and
proper treatment of cancer by attacking absolutely
everything that has been found to helpful in treating cancer
including screening programs and early diagnosis.
Alternative supporters are also likely to use half a dozen
quack treatments before seeking medical attention. Such
influences will mean that stage for stage, alt supporters
will present with more advanced cancer, and will often
reject recommended components of treatment..

The frustrating thing is that some get away with it, at
least in the short term, and loudly spread their misleading
testimonials around, to the detriment of others who follow
their lead.. An example of the latter is Lorraine Day, whose
cancer got to be so bad precisely because she refused
recommended standard treatments, but I'll bet she never
mentions that in any of her videos.

Others can be lucky. Cancers can be very variable in their
behaviour, and will sometimes be cured by minimal treatment,
such as a complete lumpectomy in the case of breast cancer.

Peter Moran

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The following message was recently posted to the Dr Clark
mailing list:

<quote> Hey all, I haven't posted much here, just lurking
and reading and trying to keep up with Dr. Clark's
methods. Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia
of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months,
I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had
my dental work done.

I went back two weeks ago and had a repap assuming
everything was going to be good. Well, I got the results
this morning. It's STILL High grade dysplasia. I'm at a
loss as to what to do now besides surgery to have the
dysplasia removed.

Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really
doesn't say much about the cervix.

Lisa </quote>

Suggestions so far have mainly been to use colloidal
silver (both orally and topically), plus one person who
offered a purge recipe to "warm the cervix". My favourite,
however, has to be : "Something that's about 100%
effective is ozone insufflation". In the real world,
something which is "about 100% effective" is a simple
surgical procedure carried out under local anaesthetic.We
are talking about a deadly disease here, one which kills
countless women worldwide each year.When Lisa dies, nobody
will attribute the death to quackery.

--
Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
ratbags.comrsolesOpen ↗ The Green Light
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ratbags.comloonOpen ↗ To email me use my first name
only at ratbags.com

One small question, Why should anyone believe that this was
really posted to the "Dr. Clark mailing list"? Why not post
the information to show how a person can access it directly?
I find it hard to believe that peter is on such a mailing
list. Now the thread will bumble along with much debate,
based on believing that peter posted the truth. Show us the
source peter.

(Oh I see the light dawns - hence the other post about
dysplasia). Anth

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The following message was recently posted to the Dr Clark
mailing list:

<quote> Hey all, I haven't posted much here, just lurking
and reading and trying to keep up with Dr. Clark's
methods. Here's my problem. I was diagnosed with dysplasia
of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6 months,
I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had
my dental work done.

I went back two weeks ago and had a repap assuming
everything was going to be good. Well, I got the results
this morning. It's STILL High grade dysplasia. I'm at a
loss as to what to do now besides surgery to have the
dysplasia removed.

Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really
doesn't say much about the cervix.

Lisa </quote>

Suggestions so far have mainly been to use colloidal
silver (both orally and topically), plus one person who
offered a purge recipe to "warm the cervix". My favourite,
however, has to be : "Something that's about 100%
effective is ozone insufflation". In the real world,
something which is "about 100% effective" is a simple
surgical procedure carried out under local anaesthetic.We
are talking about a deadly disease here, one which kills
countless women worldwide each year.When Lisa dies, nobody
will attribute the death to quackery.

--
Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
ratbags.comrsolesOpen ↗ The Green Light
ratbags.comgreenlightOpen ↗ Quintessence of the Loon
ratbags.comloonOpen ↗ To email me use my first name
only at ratbags.com

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really
doesn't say much about the cervix.

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Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver
flukes that cause cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers
that they are. A few sessions with the "Clark" magic zapper
and a few colonics will set everything right. :-)
--
Kim Take a colonic and sit on the crapper... When you're
through use the ZAPPER. The most amazing BS artists there
are: members.rogers.comindex.htmlOpen ↗
geocities.comQuackery.htmlOpen ↗
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Kim said:

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases"
really doesn't say much about the cervix.

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Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver
flukes that cause cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers
that they are. A few sessions with the "Clark" magic zapper
and a few colonics will set everything right. :-)

Cue Jan to accuse Kim of being a liar and misrepresenting
what Hulda says. Of course Jan says that Hulda is simply
"mistaken" when she says that she has the cure for ALL
cancers instead of appropriately calling Hulda a liar. That
is because Jan and Hulda are part of the gang of evil
disorganized alternative medicine (EDAM, not to be confused
with the cheese)

Aloha, Rich

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

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Rich says: Cue Jan to personally attack Kim

And then right on cue:

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

Some things are so predictable.

Aloha,

Rich

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Rich says: Cue Jan to personally attack Kim

And then right on cue:

On 29 Apr 2004 01:38:23 GMT, [email hidden]

(Jan) said:

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

insults and lies deleted.

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

Some things are so predictable.

Equally predictable:

1. Sunrise
2. Sunset
3. Jan bashing someone

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases"
really doesn't say much about the cervix.

=======================
Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver
flukes that cause cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers
that they are. A few sessions

with

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the "Clark" magic zapper and a few colonics will set
everything right.

:-)

How right you are Kim!

If you want to read another persons rants that make as much
sense as Hulda's, try Bertha Verroneau[sp?].

r

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DLT tapes.