Hulda Clark assists suicide

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT have a simple LEEP
procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste valuable time with Hulda the
quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three months..and had already
progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and kicking...surgical removal
ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing to treat...by a REAL
member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

hawki.....

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT have a simple

LEEP

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procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste valuable time with

Hulda the

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quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three months..and had

already

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progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and kicking...surgical

removal

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ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing to treat...by a

REAL

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member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

hawki.....

Jan and the rest can spew all they want about how wonderful HC is, but the
fact remains that Hulda and her minions are absolutely deadly! Cure for
All Diseases? Cure for All Cancers? Cure for HIV/AIDS? [censored],
[censored], and [censored]! Hulda doesn't even have a cure for the common
cold let alone something life threatening like cancer. Jan, et al. can
call me a liar all they want, but the facts state otherwise.

r

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 05:22:46 -0000, "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]>

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[email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in news:20040427231606.04129.00000337@mb-
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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT have a simple

LEEP

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procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste valuable time with

Hulda the

Quoted message said:

quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three months..and had

already

Quoted message said:

progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and kicking...surgical

removal

Quoted message said:

ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing to treat...by a

REAL

Quoted message said:

member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

hawki.....

Jan and the rest can spew all they want about how wonderful HC is, but the
fact remains that Hulda and her minions are absolutely deadly! Cure for
All Diseases? Cure for All Cancers? Cure for HIV/AIDS? [censored],
[censored], and [censored]! Hulda doesn't even have a cure for the common
cold let alone something life threatening like cancer. Jan, et al. can
call me a liar all they want, but the facts state otherwise.

Jan Drew is pure evil. Jan has admitted that Hulda does not have the
cure for all cancers. And yet despite acknowledging this fact Jan will
not rebuke those who suggest that a woman with cervical dysplasia use
quackery to treat it even though this woman will likely die as a
result.

Once again Jan Drew shows how little she cares for the lives of
others. She ONLY cares about falsely promoting quackery and demonizing
conventional medicine by propaganda and lies. Sad that.

Aloha,
Rich

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Subject: Hulda Clark assists suicide
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/27/2004 5:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

is it this type of craziness...that drives me crazy!!!!

WHY would any woman with one functioning brain cell NOT have a simple LEEP
procedure and CURE the problem...rather than waste valuable time with

Hulda the

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quack's insanity..

Just a hint...my pap was class II...repeated in three months..and had

already

Quoted message said:

progressed to Class II B...that is how quickly this can progress...

Funny thing,,,10 years later....still alive and kicking...surgical removal
ONLY...no chemo..etc...

Cervical cancer/pre cancer is probably the easiest thing to treat...by a

REAL

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member of EOM...otherwise it CAN kill....needlessly

It causes me to tear my hair out , too.

At least two studies now suggest that cancer patients who use alternative
medicines have a worse prognosis than those who don't.

The evidence is not yet conclusive, but it is quite plausible that this
should be so.

Alternative dogma is designed to delay the diagnosis and proper treatment of
cancer by attacking absolutely everything that has been found to helpful in
treating cancer including screening programs and early diagnosis.
Alternative supporters are also likely to use half a dozen quack treatments
before seeking medical attention. Such influences will mean that stage for
stage, alt supporters will present with more advanced cancer, and will often
reject recommended components of treatment..

The frustrating thing is that some get away with it, at least in the short
term, and loudly spread their misleading testimonials around, to the
detriment of others who follow their lead.. An example of the latter is
Lorraine Day, whose cancer got to be so bad precisely because she refused
recommended standard treatments, but I'll bet she never mentions that in any
of her videos.

Others can be lucky. Cancers can be very variable in their behaviour, and
will sometimes be cured by minimal treatment, such as a complete lumpectomy
in the case of breast cancer.

Peter Moran

(Oh I see the light dawns - hence the other post about dysplasia).
Anth

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The following message was recently posted to the Dr Clark mailing
list:

<quote>
Hey all,
I haven't posted much here, just lurking and reading and trying to
keep up with Dr. Clark's methods. Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

I went back two weeks ago and had a repap assuming everything was
going to be good. Well, I got the results this morning. It's STILL
High grade dysplasia. I'm at a loss as to what to do now besides
surgery to have the dysplasia removed.

Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really doesn't say
much about the cervix.

Lisa
</quote>

Suggestions so far have mainly been to use colloidal silver (both
orally and topically), plus one person who offered a purge recipe to
"warm the cervix". My favourite, however, has to be : "Something
that's about 100% effective is ozone insufflation". In the real world,
something which is "about 100% effective" is a simple surgical
procedure carried out under local anaesthetic.We are talking about a
deadly disease here, one which kills countless women worldwide each
year.When Lisa dies, nobody will attribute the death to quackery.

--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
Quintessence of the Loon http://www.ratbags.com/loon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

"Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The following message was recently posted to the Dr Clark mailing
list:

<quote>
Hey all,
I haven't posted much here, just lurking and reading and trying to
keep up with Dr. Clark's methods. Here's my problem. I was diagnosed
with dysplasia of the cervix (pre-cancer cells). For the past 6
months, I've been doing the Dr. Clark thing. I even went and had my
dental work done.

I went back two weeks ago and had a repap assuming everything was
going to be good. Well, I got the results this morning. It's STILL
High grade dysplasia. I'm at a loss as to what to do now besides
surgery to have the dysplasia removed.

Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really doesn't say
much about the cervix.

Lisa
</quote>

Suggestions so far have mainly been to use colloidal silver (both
orally and topically), plus one person who offered a purge recipe to
"warm the cervix". My favourite, however, has to be : "Something
that's about 100% effective is ozone insufflation". In the real world,
something which is "about 100% effective" is a simple surgical
procedure carried out under local anaesthetic.We are talking about a
deadly disease here, one which kills countless women worldwide each
year.When Lisa dies, nobody will attribute the death to quackery.

--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
Quintessence of the Loon http://www.ratbags.com/loon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

One small question, Why should anyone believe that this was really posted to
the "Dr. Clark mailing list"? Why not post the information to show how a
person can access it directly? I find it hard to believe that peter is on
such a mailing list. Now the thread will bumble along with much debate,
based on believing that peter posted the truth. Show us the source peter.

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really doesn't say
much about the cervix.

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Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver flukes that cause
cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers that they are. A few sessions with
the "Clark" magic zapper and a few colonics will set everything right. :-)
--
Kim
Take a colonic and sit on the crapper...
When you're through use the ZAPPER.
The most amazing BS artists there are:
http://members.rogers.com/kirkkolas/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html
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Kim said:

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really doesn't say
much about the cervix.

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Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver flukes that cause
cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers that they are. A few sessions with
the "Clark" magic zapper and a few colonics will set everything right. :-)

Cue Jan to accuse Kim of being a liar and misrepresenting what Hulda
says. Of course Jan says that Hulda is simply "mistaken" when she says
that she has the cure for ALL cancers instead of appropriately calling
Hulda a liar. That is because Jan and Hulda are part of the gang of
evil disorganized alternative medicine (EDAM, not to be confused with
the cheese)

Aloha,
Rich

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

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Cue Jan to personally attack Kim

And then right on cue:

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

insults and lies deleted.

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

Some things are so predictable.

Aloha,

Rich

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Cue Jan to personally attack Kim

And then right on cue:

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From: "Kim" [email hidden]

insults and lies deleted.

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The most amazing BS artist there is:

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Kim"

Some things are so predictable.

Equally predictable:

1. Sunrise
2. Sunset
3. Jan bashing someone

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Any suggestions? Her book "A Cure For All Diseases" really doesn't say
much about the cervix.

=======================
Why, everyone knows that it's those dang "Clark" liver flukes that cause
cervical cancer. Naughty little buggers that they are. A few sessions

with

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the "Clark" magic zapper and a few colonics will set everything right.

:-)

How right you are Kim!

If you want to read another persons rants that make as much sense as
Hulda's, try Bertha Verroneau[sp?].

r

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