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  1. Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass.
    They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums
    and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and
    sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says taste great.
    What bothers me the most, is that he states that the river
    has been cleaned up, and that the fish taste great.

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to
    one serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then
    again, other fresh water fish have been implicated
    regardless of location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    TIA,

    Richard

    --
    "'Who knows for certain? Who shall here declare it? Whence
    was it born, whence came creation? The gods are later than
    this world's formation; Who then can know the origins of the
    world? None knows whence creation arose; And whether he has
    or has not made it; He who surveys it from the lofty skies.
    Only he knows-or perhaps he knows not.' And this is tempered
    by another, perhaps still greater: That men are not the
    dreams of the gods but that the gods are the dreams of men."

    The Rig Veda Circa 1500 B.C.

  2. Richard Periut said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass.
    They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums
    and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and
    sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says taste great.
    What bothers me the most, is that he states that the river
    has been cleaned up, and that the fish taste great.

    Quoted message said:

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    It really depends on the river, check with the state
    health agency.

    health.state.ny.usfish.htm

    That said predator species, even pelagic species like tuna,
    concentrate toxins in their bodies. PCBs, mercury, whatever.
    There's growing concern that consumption of even wild caught
    fish should be limited to one serving per week.

    In some rivers, such as the Anacostia in D.C., people are
    advised not to eat any fish they caught in any amounts.

    Best,

    Marc

  3. "Richard Periut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped
    bass. They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The
    local bums and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5
    and sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says
    taste great. What bothers me the most, is that he
    states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the
    fish taste great.

    I believe most of the dioxin is from the old releases from
    the GE transformer plant. The last I read about it they were
    considering extensive dredging of the river bottom but
    opposing thoughts say that may make a bigger mess.

    Quoted message said:


    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    TIA,

    Richard

    Hudson River South of Catskill, Arthur Kill, Kill Van Kull
    and Upper Bay of New York Harbor (North of Verrazano
    Narrows Bridge)

    a.. Eat no gizzard shad.
    b.. Eat no more than one meal per month of American eel,
    Atlantic needlefish, bluefish, brown bullhead, carp,
    channel catfish, goldfish, largemouth and smallmouth
    bass, rainbow smelt, striped bass, walleye, white
    catfish and white perch and eat no more than one meal
    per week of other fish species.
    c.. Eat no more than six blue crabs per week and don't
    consume the hepatopancreas (mustard, tomalley, liver) or
    cooking liquid.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    "'Who knows for certain? Who shall here declare it? Whence
    was it born, whence came creation? The gods are later than
    this world's formation; Who then can know the origins of
    the world? None knows whence creation arose; And whether
    he has or has not made it; He who surveys it from the
    lofty skies. Only he knows-or perhaps he knows not.' And
    this is tempered by another, perhaps still greater: That
    men are not the dreams of the gods but that the gods are
    the dreams of men."

    The Rig Veda Circa 1500 B.C.

  4. "Richard Periut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped
    bass. They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The
    local bums and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5
    and sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says
    taste great. What bothers me the most, is that he
    states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the
    fish taste great.

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    The Hudson has been cleaned up a lot, but you need to ask
    the state wildlife or game department, not a newsgroup.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  5. On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:09:47 GMT, Richard Periut <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass.
    They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums
    and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and
    sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says taste great.
    What bothers me the most, is that he states that the river
    has been cleaned up, and that the fish taste great.

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    TIA,

    Richard

    Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the
    book that comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about how
    many servings of fish you should eat each month from the
    various waters of New York State.

  6. Far as I can tell said:

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    My daughter lives in Hoboken just of Washington Blvd.

    They done aGREAT job building the park and bike trails, etc.

    But the water still looks like [censored] and I wouldn't eat a
    fish that came out of it.

  7. "Richard Periut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped
    bass. They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The
    local bums and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5
    and sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says
    taste great. What bothers me the most, is that he
    states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the
    fish taste great.

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    TIA,

    Richard

    There was a comic a few years ago (I don't remember which
    one) who theorized about actually catching a fish in the
    Hudson near NYC. He said that the fish would be well
    [censored], slap around the fisherman, steal his bait,
    insult, chastize and slime him, before disappearing back
    into the water.

  8. MrAoD said:
    Richard Periut said:

    Hi all and greetings,

    When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the
    Hudson River on the Hoboken bank.

    The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped
    bass. They tasted like oil, and so did the crabs. The
    local bums and my cat used to cherish them.

    Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5
    and sometimes 10 pound striped bass, which he says
    taste great. What bothers me the most, is that he
    states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the
    fish taste great.

    Quoted message said:

    I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one
    serving per week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again,
    other fresh water fish have been implicated regardless of
    location.

    Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

    It really depends on the river, check with the state
    health agency.

    health.state.ny.usfish.htm

    That said predator species, even pelagic species like
    tuna, concentrate toxins in their bodies. PCBs, mercury,
    whatever. There's growing concern that consumption of
    even wild caught fish should be limited to one serving
    per week.

    In some rivers, such as the Anacostia in D.C., people are
    advised not to eat any fish they caught in any amounts.

    Best,

    Marc


    Thanks Marc and others for the links/advice.

    It shouldn't surprise me of what I read. You don't want to
    know the stuff in the air that we inhale, and the amount
    of people with respiratory problems not related to
    personal habits.

    Thanks again,

    Rich

  9. Far as I can tell said:

    Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the
    book that comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about how
    many servings of fish you should eat each month from the
    various waters of New York State.

    I agree that this would be a good idea if you HAD to eat the
    fish, but honestly, why would you want to eat something that
    more than likely is toxic if you eat a just a wee bit too
    much. The Hudson River at Hoboken?

    I mean we're not talking about hamburger fat here. We're
    talking about fish that live breathe and eat diesel fuel.

    Suggestion. Go to the riverbank. Catch some fish. Throw them
    back. Go to the Fulton Fish Market. Buy something. Go home
    and eat it.

    For a real fight, catch a tire in the Rahway River.

  10. Petey the Wonder Dog said:
    Far as I can tell said:

    Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the
    book that comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about
    how many servings of fish you should eat each month from
    the various waters of New York State.

    I agree that this would be a good idea if you HAD to eat
    the fish, but honestly, why would you want to eat something
    that more than likely is toxic if you eat a just a wee bit
    too much. The Hudson River at Hoboken?

    I mean we're not talking about hamburger fat here. We're
    talking about fish that live breathe and eat diesel fuel.

    Suggestion. Go to the riverbank. Catch some fish. Throw
    them back. Go to the Fulton Fish Market. Buy something. Go
    home and eat it.

    For a real fight, catch a tire in the Rahway River.

    He did not ask if I would eat fish from the Hudson...he
    asked about information, which I gave him. I personally fish
    the l Finger Lakes.

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