Hub purchase

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Man am I tired of spending money on bikes, and now I have to road ride because the mtn. bike is
down and out.

That sounds soooo familiar :-)

I just got over spending 3 weeks on the road while I was building up a new rig from used parts
scoured from the net. Now that I'm back off road again, I'm rapidly eating through my supply of
spare parts.

-Bruce

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Anthony Sloan wrote:

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>Craig Brossman wrote:
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>>My rear XT hub is shot, and the rims are getting on as well. For a few extra dollars, I'ld
>>probably get a disc hub, may even throw a set of Avid mechanicals in there right away.
>>
>>But which hub? For the price, perhaps another XT wheel isn't so bad. I only weigh 175 lbs., it
>>did last me 5 years, and I could get a whole wheel online for almost 1/2 the price of a Chris
>>King hub.
>>
>>But the Chris King is forever, or so I'm told. My LBS showed me how easily it is serviced.
>>Perhaps I will grow to love the quick engagement it has more than I can imagine. At around
>>$250, it represents an investment.
>>
>>Another friend like Hugi hubs. I believe they come in around the same price, perhaps a little
>>less.
>>
>>Any other opinions out there?
>>
>>BTW, money is always an object; 4, 5, or 5 digit incomes, it doesn't matter. I have to
>>convince myself it IS worth the extra dollars, I also have

to

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>>convince SWMBO, who is expecting the next big bike purchase to be her new FS frame/bike.
>>
>>--
>>Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)
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>I am hub shopping as well. The King hubs seem awfully, awfully nice,

but

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>gol dern they are expensive. The Hugi and the American Classic are at the top of my list
>right now.
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>A

_Run_ from American Classic! I had their rear hub. It started dumping grease on the disc rotor
after a couple of months (talk about exciting -- I'd usually find this out when I found that my
rear brake wasn't working on a steep grade at speed!). Destroyed the bearings in 4 months -- one
actually disintegrated! Their tech support tried to duck it -- claimed that it couldn't happen.
My LBS insisted that was not the case and convinced them to send a full set of new bearings (4),
all with seals (my guess was that water was getting in as readily as grease was getting out).
They sent 4 bearings, but only one had seals and they charged the shop for 2 of them! __NEVER
AGAIN__!

BTW, it was this hub that taught me the finer points of using mud to get a disc rotor back in
service 🙂. But, the pads would only survive 3 or 4 dumps before they just couldn't be revived
and had to be replaced.

David

There were a bunch of problems like that - did you have the model with

the

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greaseport?

The new models are supposed to be a lot better. the WTB knockoff is supposed to be pretty damn
good, and WTB has excellent customer service

too.

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(No personal experience, so I can't vouch for them)

Jon Bond

If their support had owned up to it and stood behind their product, I'd agree. But they never made
good on it -- and it was almost as expensive as the Chris King that replaced it! It's sitting with
the rest of my junk parts. (And, yes it was the grease port model).

David

Which is just another reason to get the WTB model instead. Hey, if it's the model without grease
ports, I'll buy that sucker off you (or you could probably sell it on ebay for more than I can
probably afford to pay you, which would be the smart way to go). If its the grease-guard model,
I'll pass 😉

Jon Bond

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>Anthony Sloan wrote:
>
>
>>Craig Brossman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>My rear XT hub is shot, and the rims are getting on as well. For a few extra dollars, I'ld
>>>probably get a disc hub, may even throw a set of Avid mechanicals in there right away.
>>>
>>>But which hub? For the price, perhaps another XT wheel isn't so bad. I only weigh 175 lbs., it
>>>did last me 5 years, and I could get a whole wheel online for almost 1/2 the price of a Chris
>>>King hub.
>>>
>>>But the Chris King is forever, or so I'm told. My LBS showed me how easily it is serviced.
>>>Perhaps I will grow to love the quick engagement it has more than I can imagine. At around
>>>$250, it represents an investment.
>>>
>>>Another friend like Hugi hubs. I believe they come in around the same price, perhaps a little
>>>less.
>>>
>>>Any other opinions out there?
>>>
>>>BTW, money is always an object; 4, 5, or 5 digit incomes, it doesn't matter. I have to
>>>convince myself it IS worth the extra dollars, I also have

to

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>>>convince SWMBO, who is expecting the next big bike purchase to be her new FS frame/bike.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I am hub shopping as well. The King hubs seem awfully, awfully nice,

but

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>>gol dern they are expensive. The Hugi and the American Classic are at the top of my list
>>right now.
>>
>>A
>
>_Run_ from American Classic! I had their rear hub. It started dumping grease on the disc rotor
>after a couple of months (talk about exciting -- I'd usually find this out when I found that my
>rear brake wasn't working on a steep grade at speed!). Destroyed the bearings in 4 months -- one
>actually disintegrated! Their tech support tried to duck it -- claimed that it couldn't happen.
>My LBS insisted that was not the case and convinced them to send a full set of new bearings (4),
>all with seals (my guess was that water was getting in as readily as grease was getting out).
>They sent 4 bearings, but only one had seals and they charged the shop for 2 of them! __NEVER
>AGAIN__!
>
>BTW, it was this hub that taught me the finer points of using mud to get a disc rotor back in
>service 🙂. But, the pads would only survive 3 or 4 dumps before they just couldn't be revived
>and had to be replaced.
>
>David

There were a bunch of problems like that - did you have the model with

the

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greaseport?

The new models are supposed to be a lot better. the WTB knockoff is supposed to be pretty damn
good, and WTB has excellent customer service

too.

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(No personal experience, so I can't vouch for them)

Jon Bond

If their support had owned up to it and stood behind their product, I'd agree. But they never made
good on it -- and it was almost as expensive as the Chris King that replaced it! It's sitting with
the rest of my junk parts. (And, yes it was the grease port model).

David

Which is just another reason to get the WTB model instead. Hey, if it's the model without grease
ports, I'll buy that sucker off you (or you could probably sell it on ebay for more than I can
probably afford to pay you, which would be the smart way to go). If its the grease-guard model,
I'll pass 😉

Jon Bond

Nope... grease port. I thought that was a GOOD thing at the time 🙂.

David

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cambriabike.comshimano xt freehub body.htmOpen ↗

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Yeah, that's exactly what I need, but how do you get from there to the page with the price etc?

-Bruce.

I couldn't find it either, but you could call, write, or any LBS could order one for you. btw That
steel ring at the bottom is for 8 speed. It comes off for 9 speed.

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I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing. The rest I've just wasted.

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>>Anthony Sloan wrote:
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>>
>>>Craig Brossman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My rear XT hub is shot, and the rims are getting on as well. For a

few

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>>>>extra dollars, I'ld probably get a disc hub, may even throw a set of Avid mechanicals in
>>>>there right away.
>>>>
>>>>But which hub? For the price, perhaps another XT wheel isn't so bad.

I

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>>>>only weigh 175 lbs., it did last me 5 years, and I could get a whole

wheel

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>>>>online for almost 1/2 the price of a Chris King hub.
>>>>
>>>>But the Chris King is forever, or so I'm told. My LBS showed me how easily it is serviced.
>>>>Perhaps I will grow to love the quick engagement it has more than I can imagine. At around
>>>>$250, it represents an investment.
>>>>
>>>>Another friend like Hugi hubs. I believe they come in around the

same

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>>>>price, perhaps a little less.
>>>>
>>>>Any other opinions out there?
>>>>
>>>>BTW, money is always an object; 4, 5, or 5 digit incomes, it doesn't matter. I have to
>>>>convince myself it IS worth the extra dollars, I also have

to

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>>>>convince SWMBO, who is expecting the next big bike purchase to be

her

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>>>>new FS frame/bike.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I am hub shopping as well. The King hubs seem awfully, awfully nice,

but

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>>>gol dern they are expensive. The Hugi and the American Classic are at the top of my list
>>>right now.
>>>
>>>A
>>
>>_Run_ from American Classic! I had their rear hub. It started

dumping

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>>grease on the disc rotor after a couple of months (talk about exciting -- I'd usually find
>>this out when I found that my rear brake wasn't working on a steep grade at speed!). Destroyed
>>the bearings in 4

months

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>>-- one actually disintegrated! Their tech support tried to duck it -- claimed that it couldn't
>>happen. My LBS insisted that was not the

case

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>>and convinced them to send a full set of new bearings (4), all with seals (my guess was that
>>water was getting in as readily as grease was getting out). They sent 4 bearings, but only one
>>had seals and they charged the shop for 2 of them! __NEVER AGAIN__!
>>
>>BTW, it was this hub that taught me the finer points of using mud to

get

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>>a disc rotor back in service 🙂. But, the pads would only survive 3

or

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>>4 dumps before they just couldn't be revived and had to be replaced.
>>
>>David
>
>
>There were a bunch of problems like that - did you have the model with

the

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>greaseport?
>
>The new models are supposed to be a lot better. the WTB knockoff is supposed to be pretty damn
>good, and WTB has excellent customer service

too.

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>(No personal experience, so I can't vouch for them)
>
>Jon Bond
>

If their support had owned up to it and stood behind their product, I'd agree. But they never
made good on it -- and it was almost as expensive as the Chris King that replaced it! It's
sitting with the rest of my junk parts. (And, yes it was the grease port model).

David

Which is just another reason to get the WTB model instead. Hey, if it's

the

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model without grease ports, I'll buy that sucker off you (or you could probably sell it on ebay
for more than I can probably afford to pay you, which would be the smart way to go). If its the
grease-guard model,

I'll

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pass 😉

Jon Bond

Nope... grease port. I thought that was a GOOD thing at the time 🙂.

David

Damn. And here I thought I might be able to score myself a cheap rear hub 😉

Jon Bond

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Nope... grease port. I thought that was a GOOD thing at the time 🙂.

Sounds like it to me, too. What's wrong with it?

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Nope... grease port. I thought that was a GOOD thing at the time 🙂.

Sounds like it to me, too. What's wrong with it?

The problem was they didn't leave anywhere for the old grease to go. Eventually, the grease builds
up, and then literally just squirts out the hub. The seals weren't fantastic either, so you just
ended up with a lot of grease everywhere.

Jon Bond

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Nope... grease port. I thought that was a GOOD thing at the time 🙂.

Sounds like it to me, too. What's wrong with it?

The problem was they didn't leave anywhere for the old grease to go. Eventually, the grease builds
up, and then literally just squirts out the hub. The seals weren't fantastic either, so you just
ended up with a lot of grease everywhere.

Jon Bond

It's worse than that. All it takes is internal pressure change to make the grease come out
(temperature change) -- when I replaced the bearings, I made SURE that I didn't overgrease the hub
but it leaked anyway. That's what we were trying to fix by insisting that AC send us 4 new bearings
all with seals. I was going to clean all of the grease out of the hub and ignore the grease port
(possibly remove it) -- then just treat it like any other hub with sealed bearings...

David