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  1. In the warm conditions of last weeks in Europe it can be helpfull to take notice of the article A. E. Jeukendurp and A.B.J.P. van Diemen wrote in 1998. It is also about HR-drift druring training and the effects on training intensity.

    Journal of Sports Sciences. Volume 16 issue 04, pp : 0091 - 0099, 1998

    Heart rate monitoring during training and competition in cyclists. Volume 16 issue 04, pp : 0091 - 0099

    A.E. Jeukendrup, A.B.J.P. van Diemen

    To obtain optimal training effects and avoid overtraining, it is necessary to monitor the intensity of training. In cycling, speed is not an accurate indicator of exercise intensity, and therefore alternatives have to found to monitor exercise intensity during training and competition. Power output may be the most direct indicator, but heart rate is easier to monitor and measure. There are, however, limitations that have to be taken into account when using a heart rate monitor. For example, the position on the bicycle may change heart rate at a given exercise intensity. More important, however, is the increase in heart rate over time, a phenomenon described as 'cardiac drift'. Cardiac drift can change the heart rate-power output relationship drastically, especially in hot environments or at altitude. It is important to determine whether one is interested in monitoring exercise intensity per se or measuring whole-body stress. Power output may be a better indicator of the former and heart rate may, under many conditions, be a better indicator of the latter. Heart rate can be used to evaluate a cyclist after training or competition, or to determine the exercise intensity during training. Heart rate monitoring is very useful in the detection of early overtraining, especially in combination with lactate curves and questionnaires. During overtraining, maximal heart rates as well as submaximal heart rates may be decreased, while resting - and, in particular, sleeping - heart rates may be increased.

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  2. Adrie,

    Geat point, and one that we're acutely aware of here in the desert!

    Careful attention to hydration is also critical in maintaining plasma volume at near-normal levels and thereby maintaining optimal cardiovascular performance.

    Thanks!

  3. Hi serottarider,

    On the other hand we found a lowering of heart rate at MLSS when we compared lab testing with simulated outdoor riding. In the simulated outdoor situation with 40 km/hr wind speed and 2 degrees Celsius MLSShr was 10 beats lower and with 40 km/hr wind speed and 10 degrees Celsius the MLSShr was 7 beats lower.

    The best to you,

    www.webtrainer.nl

    Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by serottarider
    Adrie,

    Geat point, and one that we're acutely aware of here in the desert!

    Careful attention to hydration is also critical in maintaining plasma volume at near-normal levels and thereby maintaining optimal cardiovascular performance.

    Thanks!

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by WebTrainer
    Hi serottarider,
    On the other hand we found a lowering of heart rate at MLSS when we compared lab testing with simulated outdoor riding. In the simulated outdoor situation with 40 km/hr wind speed and 2 degrees Celsius MLSShr was 10 beats lower and with 40 km/hr wind speed and 10 degrees Celsius the MLSShr was 7 beats lower.

    This is something we cannot control for like the effects of dehydration on HR; we can only be aware of the situation.

    The response you have described to cooler and moving air, would have little effect on training as people tend to use broad zones (say 10 to 15 beats), but most importantly people wear more clothes in cooler weather. (I have assumed that all conditions riders wore the same clothes). On a practical level during cold weather people often become dehydrated as they underestimate fluid needs and over heat due to extra clothes.

    What was the significance of studying the MLSS intesnity?

  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by 2LAP
    This is something we cannot control for like the effects of dehydration on HR; we can only be aware of the situation.

    The response you have described to cooler and moving air, would have little effect on training as people tend to use broad zones (say 10 to 15 beats), but most importantly people wear more clothes in cooler weather. (I have assumed that all conditions riders wore the same clothes). On a practical level during cold weather people often become dehydrated as they underestimate fluid needs and over heat due to extra clothes.

    What was the significance of studying the MLSS intesnity?

    The significance of studying de MLSShr. In the winter and early season riders in preparation of the new season have to do endurance work outdoors, mainly in zone DI and DII. We do work physiology testing based on lactate and ventilation do determine the training zones. This is done in the laboratory. To be sure that the determination of the trainingzones indoors is useful for outdoor training we did this study. It confirmed the feedback of the Dutch riders training in The Netherlands. "Adrie: when it is cold I have problems with riding in de desired training zones." Now I can advise the riders how to adjust the training zones in cold weather.

    Clothing In the study the riders were wearing thermo jack, gloves and other winter clothes. It was in situations, 2 and 10 degrees, the clothing was the same. The only difference was that in 10 degrees they did wear on shirt less.

    The best to you,

    www.webtrainer.nl

  6. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by WebTrainer
    The significance of studying de MLSShr. In the winter and early season riders in preparation of the new season have to do endurance work outdoors, mainly in zone DI and DII. We do work physiology testing based on lactate and ventilation do determine the training zones. This is done in the laboratory. To be sure that the determination of the trainingzones indoors is useful for outdoor training we did this study. It confirmed the feedback of the Dutch riders training in The Netherlands. "Adrie: when it is cold I have problems with riding in de desired training zones." Now I can advise the riders how to adjust the training zones in cold weather.

    Clothing In the study the riders were wearing thermo jack, gloves and other winter clothes. It was in situations, 2 and 10 degrees, the clothing was the same. The only difference was that in 10 degrees they did wear on shirt less.

    Only asked about MLSS as this is time consuming to work out; LT or a relative intensity based on VO2 max would have been simpler and provided meaningful data.

    These changes in clothes are interesting; skin temperatures and blood flows would also be interesting. What happens after 1 or 2 hours, would cardiac drift counteract this response to cold air?

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