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  1. How you going to do it HJ?
    From ProCycling:

    "His legal team affirmed they will be backing Landis's fight to clear his
    name, but initial prospects aren't good given the list of excuses they've
    reeled out in recent days to explain his positive test result. Dehydration,
    cortisone injections into his crumbling hip, too much Jack Daniel's and a
    long-standing testosterone imbalance have all been put forward as potential
    reasons for Landis's positive test. However, none of them explains how the
    testosterone found in the American's system apparently comes from an outside
    source."

    Like Lou said, "Stick a fork in him and turn him over. He's done."

  2. Well, that pretty much dashes all hope for me. Landis is a very, very bad
    boy. Just like Ullrich, I figured him all wrong. He seemed like such a
    good person.

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How you going to do it HJ?
    From ProCycling:

    "His legal team affirmed they will be backing Landis's fight to clear his
    name, but initial prospects aren't good given the list of excuses they've
    reeled out in recent days to explain his positive test result.


    Dehydration,

    Quoted message said:

    cortisone injections into his crumbling hip, too much Jack Daniel's and a
    long-standing testosterone imbalance have all been put forward as


    potential

    Quoted message said:

    reasons for Landis's positive test. However, none of them explains how the
    testosterone found in the American's system apparently comes from an


    outside

    Quoted message said:

    source."

    Like Lou said, "Stick a fork in him and turn him over. He's done."

  3. B. Lafferty said:

    How you going to do it HJ?

    Go after the test procedure, chain of custody, procedural grounds.
    Keep loudly proclaiming that the UCI leaked the result and trample don
    the rights of the rider.
    Draw attention away from the test results, provide no explanation for
    the positives.
    Apply for every continuance and drag the process out as long as possible.
    Lawyer only has to get lucky on one aspect of the whole process.

    None of the above has any significance to the reality-based community,
    but all of pro cycling is in la la land now, apparently.

  4. "Stu Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    How you going to do it HJ?

    Go after the test procedure, chain of custody, procedural grounds.
    Keep loudly proclaiming that the UCI leaked the result and trample don the
    rights of the rider.
    Draw attention away from the test results, provide no explanation for the
    positives.
    Apply for every continuance and drag the process out as long as possible.
    Lawyer only has to get lucky on one aspect of the whole process.

    None of the above has any significance to the reality-based community, but
    all of pro cycling is in la la land now, apparently.

    Good summation, counselor. :-)

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Draw attention away from the test results,

    Supposedly it does no good to take testosterone one day before a race,
    and Landis had tested clear on every other day.

    So did he forget to mask it this one time?

  6. in 520947 20060805 123454 'coldbeer! said:

    Well, that pretty much dashes all hope for me. Landis is a very, very bad
    boy. Just like Ullrich, I figured him all wrong. He seemed like such a
    good person.

    He probably is a good person, but if he wants to compete in the world of professional
    cycling then he has to do what all the others are doing.

  7. B. Lafferty said:


    "Stu Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    How you going to do it HJ?

    Go after the test procedure, chain of custody, procedural grounds.
    Keep loudly proclaiming that the UCI leaked the result and trample don the
    rights of the rider.
    Draw attention away from the test results, provide no explanation for the
    positives.
    Apply for every continuance and drag the process out as long as possible.
    Lawyer only has to get lucky on one aspect of the whole process.

    None of the above has any significance to the reality-based community, but
    all of pro cycling is in la la land now, apparently.

    Good summation, counselor. :-)

    If the law is in your favor, pound the law.
    If the facts are in your favor, pound the facts.
    If neither are in your favor, pound the table.

    Ron

  8. RonSonic said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    "Stu Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    B. Lafferty wrote:

    >How you going to do it HJ?

    Go after the test procedure, chain of custody, procedural grounds.
    Keep loudly proclaiming that the UCI leaked the result and trample don the
    rights of the rider.
    Draw attention away from the test results, provide no explanation for the
    positives.
    Apply for every continuance and drag the process out as long as possible.
    Lawyer only has to get lucky on one aspect of the whole process.

    None of the above has any significance to the reality-based community, but
    all of pro cycling is in la la land now, apparently.

    Good summation, counselor. :-)

    If the law is in your favor, pound the law.
    If the facts are in your favor, pound the facts.
    If neither are in your favor, pound the table.

    If the case is against WADA, pound your [censored].

  9. RonSonic said:

    On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:47:23 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    If the law is in your favor, pound the law.
    If the facts are in your favor, pound the facts.
    If neither are in your favor, pound the table.

    Ron

    I thought [censored] Pound said that.

    -ilan

  10. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How you going to do it HJ?
    From ProCycling:

    "His legal team affirmed they will be backing Landis's fight to clear his name, but initial prospects aren't good given the list
    of excuses they've reeled out in recent days to explain his positive test result. Dehydration, cortisone injections into his
    crumbling hip, too much Jack Daniel's and a long-standing testosterone imbalance have all been put forward as potential reasons
    for Landis's positive test. However, none of them explains how the testosterone found in the American's system apparently comes
    from an outside source."

    Like Lou said, "Stick a fork in him and turn him over. He's done."

    The carbon isotope suggests that it was external. I'd like to hear from
    other experts about whether this is the case, and to have the samples
    tested in a different laborary. If they come to the same conclusions, then
    it be hard to give Landis the benefit of the doubt. But for me, I'm holding
    out until we get a second opinion from another lab.

  11. in 520963 20060805 135805 'Michael said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How you going to do it HJ?
    From ProCycling:

    "His legal team affirmed they will be backing Landis's fight to clear his name, but initial prospects aren't good given the list
    of excuses they've reeled out in recent days to explain his positive test result. Dehydration, cortisone injections into his
    crumbling hip, too much Jack Daniel's and a long-standing testosterone imbalance have all been put forward as potential reasons
    for Landis's positive test. However, none of them explains how the testosterone found in the American's system apparently comes
    from an outside source."

    Like Lou said, "Stick a fork in him and turn him over. He's done."

    The carbon isotope suggests that it was external. I'd like to hear from
    other experts about whether this is the case, and to have the samples
    tested in a different laborary. If they come to the same conclusions, then
    it be hard to give Landis the benefit of the doubt. But for me, I'm holding
    out until we get a second opinion from another lab.

    Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?

  12. "Bob Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    in 520963 20060805 135805 'Michael said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How you going to do it HJ?
    From ProCycling:

    "His legal team affirmed they will be backing Landis's fight to clear his name, but initial prospects aren't good given the list
    of excuses they've reeled out in recent days to explain his positive test result. Dehydration, cortisone injections into his
    crumbling hip, too much Jack Daniel's and a long-standing testosterone imbalance have all been put forward as potential reasons
    for Landis's positive test. However, none of them explains how the testosterone found in the American's system apparently comes
    from an outside source."

    Like Lou said, "Stick a fork in him and turn him over. He's done."

    The carbon isotope suggests that it was external. I'd like to hear from
    other experts about whether this is the case, and to have the samples
    tested in a different laborary. If they come to the same conclusions, then
    it be hard to give Landis the benefit of the doubt. But for me, I'm holding
    out until we get a second opinion from another lab.

    Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?

    I am, and I also know that test results can be interpreted in radically
    different ways.

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Draw attention away from the test results,

    Supposedly it does no good to take testosterone one day before a race,
    and Landis had tested clear on every other day.

    So did he forget to mask it this one time?

    Possibly, in any case he's bust.

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