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  1. What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have the
    energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much more
    often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk and
    1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    --
    the CuriousKitten
    cur10usk1tt3n@ spamproof gmail.com

    Don't let the African Violets on the window sill fool you.

  2. CuriousKitten said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have the
    energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much more
    often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk and
    1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    --
    the CuriousKitten
    cur10usk1tt3n@ spamproof gmail.com

    Don't let the African Violets on the window sill fool you.

    My favorite anti-inflammatory is slow easy cold water swimming.

  3. "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much
    more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk
    and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you need
    sufficient calories and good for you food, you need not to lift too hard
    when you lift, and you need to balance your lifting with the other
    stresses in your life.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  4. CuriousKitten said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have the
    energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much more
    often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk and
    1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    You make me sooooooooo hot.

  5. Quoted message said:

    My favorite anti-inflammatory is slow easy cold water swimming.

    "Watersports", I shoulda known.

  6. On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:29:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much
    more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk
    and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you need
    sufficient calories and good for you food, you need not to lift too hard
    when you lift, and you need to balance your lifting with the other
    stresses in your life.

    Good advice, Steve. One of my teammates was working six and seven
    days a week about a year or two ago and his lifts really suffered. I
    know with myself, I can struggle through a workout without too many
    problems with little sleep the night before. But, if I do that a
    couple of workouts in a row, I lose strength and/or stamina. I also
    tend to gain more fat around the waist during those stretches.

    Conversely, if I get plenty of sleep along with plenty of protein, I
    feel like I'm ten foot tall and bulletproof. It feels like my
    cortisol levels drop and my testosterone levels increase. Just the
    opposite of not getting enough sleep and good nutrition.

  7. "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:29:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much
    more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk
    and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you need
    sufficient calories and good for you food, you need not to lift too hard
    when you lift, and you need to balance your lifting with the other
    stresses in your life.

    Good advice, Steve. One of my teammates was working six and seven
    days a week about a year or two ago and his lifts really suffered. I
    know with myself, I can struggle through a workout without too many
    problems with little sleep the night before. But, if I do that a
    couple of workouts in a row, I lose strength and/or stamina. I also
    tend to gain more fat around the waist during those stretches.

    Conversely, if I get plenty of sleep along with plenty of protein, I
    feel like I'm ten foot tall and bulletproof. It feels like my
    cortisol levels drop and my testosterone levels increase. Just the
    opposite of not getting enough sleep and good nutrition.

    That's exactly the way it is with me. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I
    have to pay attention to the balance of sleep, nutrition and working out to
    get good results. But then...I'm an old [censored].

    Nice to see you on John. You're one of the few reasons I check back here.

  8. Larry Hodges said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:29:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    >weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    >the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much
    >more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.
    >
    >I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk
    >and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    >tricreatine malate

    Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you need
    sufficient calories and good for you food,

    Any time I'm hungry, I eat something healthy. If I'm craving protein, I
    indulge. If I'm craving something that's not good for me (like
    sweets), I look at what I might be needing, like water-soluable
    vitamins, or interestingly, an extra protein shake (sometimes when my
    sweet tooth kicks up big-time, that's the only thing that will satisfy).
    I'm hypothyroid and trying to speed up my metabolism, and so am not
    even thinking about loosing weight. I figure that will happen in good
    time as I get stronger and healthier.

    you need not to lift too hard

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when you lift,

    Doing the "lift weights to loose weight" workout video, track 2 (high
    weight, low rep) with 3# and 5# dumbells shouldn't be hard lifting, even
    though I would be unable to complete the video with heavier weights, or
    more reps or sets. I can usually do 8 reps curling or pressing with 10#
    dumbell (I usually do one arm at a time, using the other hand to spot).
    When I started working with weights, I couldn't do that with the 3#.

    Maybe I need to just accept that this *is* heavy lifting *for me*, and
    accept that I can't do it often?

    and you need to balance your lifting with the other

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stresses in your life.

    Good advice, Steve. One of my teammates was working six and seven
    days a week about a year or two ago and his lifts really suffered. I
    know with myself, I can struggle through a workout without too many
    problems with little sleep the night before. But, if I do that a
    couple of workouts in a row, I lose strength and/or stamina. I also
    tend to gain more fat around the waist during those stretches.

    Conversely, if I get plenty of sleep along with plenty of protein, I
    feel like I'm ten foot tall and bulletproof. It feels like my
    cortisol levels drop and my testosterone levels increase. Just the
    opposite of not getting enough sleep and good nutrition.

    That's exactly the way it is with me. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I
    have to pay attention to the balance of sleep, nutrition and working out to
    get good results. But then...I'm an old [censored].

    Nice to see you on John. You're one of the few reasons I check back here.

    I thank you all. At least now I know I didn't miss anything major in my
    research. Maybe the missing key I seek is patience?

    --
    the CuriousKitten
    cur10usk1tt3n@ spamproof gmail.com

    Don't let the African Violets on the window sill fool you.

  9. Quoted message said:
    CuriousKitten said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have the
    energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much more
    often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk and
    1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    Quoted message said:


    My favorite anti-inflammatory is slow easy cold water swimming.

    I have had some relief with hot showers. I have considered hitting the
    advil, but read somewhere that it can slow strength building?

    --
    the CuriousKitten
    cur10usk1tt3n@ spamproof gmail.com

    Don't let the African Violets on the window sill fool you.

  10. On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:53:10 -0800, "Larry Hodges"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:29:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    > weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    > the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much
    > more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.
    >
    > I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk
    > and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    > tricreatine malate

    Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you need
    sufficient calories and good for you food, you need not to lift too hard
    when you lift, and you need to balance your lifting with the other
    stresses in your life.

    Good advice, Steve. One of my teammates was working six and seven
    days a week about a year or two ago and his lifts really suffered. I
    know with myself, I can struggle through a workout without too many
    problems with little sleep the night before. But, if I do that a
    couple of workouts in a row, I lose strength and/or stamina. I also
    tend to gain more fat around the waist during those stretches.

    Conversely, if I get plenty of sleep along with plenty of protein, I
    feel like I'm ten foot tall and bulletproof. It feels like my
    cortisol levels drop and my testosterone levels increase. Just the
    opposite of not getting enough sleep and good nutrition.

    That's exactly the way it is with me. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I
    have to pay attention to the balance of sleep, nutrition and working out to
    get good results. But then...I'm an old [censored].

    Nice to see you on John. You're one of the few reasons I check back here.


    Thanks, Larry. It's good to see you too.

  11. "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after lifting
    weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have the
    energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out much more
    often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.

    I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle Milk and
    1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    tricreatine malate

    The Best post workout liquid meal in two parts is:

    75g of special carb Vitargo
    10g of Glutamine
    5g of Cratine
    7,5dl water
    - slow drinking during the last 15min of workout

    20min after this

    30-50g of Whey protein
    5-10g og Glutamin
    50-70g of Maltodextrine
    5 - 7,5dl water

    - slow drinking 20min after first part meal

    I receive fantastic results with this system with my clients.

  12. "CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Larry Hodges said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:29:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    >"CuriousKitten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>What are the best/most effective ways to speed recovery after
    >>lifting
    >>weights? Now that I've recovered sufficient health to where I have
    >>the energy to work out more often, I find I still can't work out
    >>much
    >>more often because my muscles are still sore from my last workout.
    >>
    >>I have a protein shake almost daily (usually 2 scoops of Muscle
    >>Milk
    >>and 1 scoop of EvoPro mixed in fat-free milk), and take 1/2 tsp of
    >>tricreatine malate
    >
    >Recovery is not only about diet - you need sufficient sleep, you
    >need
    >sufficient calories and good for you food,

    Any time I'm hungry, I eat something healthy. If I'm craving protein,
    I indulge. If I'm craving something that's not good for me (like
    sweets), I look at what I might be needing, like water-soluable
    vitamins, or interestingly, an extra protein shake (sometimes when my
    sweet tooth kicks up big-time, that's the only thing that will
    satisfy). I'm hypothyroid and trying to speed up my metabolism, and so
    am not even thinking about loosing weight. I figure that will happen
    in good time as I get stronger and healthier.

    you need not to lift too hard

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >when you lift,

    Doing the "lift weights to loose weight" workout video, track 2 (high
    weight, low rep) with 3# and 5# dumbells shouldn't be hard lifting,
    even though I would be unable to complete the video with heavier
    weights, or more reps or sets. I can usually do 8 reps curling or
    pressing with 10# dumbell (I usually do one arm at a time, using the
    other hand to spot). When I started working with weights, I couldn't
    do that with the 3#.

    Maybe I need to just accept that this *is* heavy lifting *for me*, and
    accept that I can't do it often?

    and you need to balance your lifting with the other

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >stresses in your life.
    >

    Good advice, Steve. One of my teammates was working six and seven
    days a week about a year or two ago and his lifts really suffered. I
    know with myself, I can struggle through a workout without too many
    problems with little sleep the night before. But, if I do that a
    couple of workouts in a row, I lose strength and/or stamina. I also
    tend to gain more fat around the waist during those stretches.

    Conversely, if I get plenty of sleep along with plenty of protein, I
    feel like I'm ten foot tall and bulletproof. It feels like my
    cortisol levels drop and my testosterone levels increase. Just the
    opposite of not getting enough sleep and good nutrition.

    That's exactly the way it is with me. Maybe I'm just getting old,
    but I have to pay attention to the balance of sleep, nutrition and
    working out to get good results. But then...I'm an old [censored].

    Nice to see you on John. You're one of the few reasons I check back
    here.

    I thank you all. At least now I know I didn't miss anything major in
    my research. Maybe the missing key I seek is patience?

    Perhaps patience, but it's more likely that you are missing a cyclic
    approach to training. If you do the same thing over and over, for a
    while you will improve as you adapt, but continue with the same training
    stimulus and you will likely get weaker, not stronger. Cycling one's
    training, in simple terms, means noticing when you're starting to feel
    stale and backing off, taking a few days or even a week of greatly
    reduced effort, typically something like cutting the volume of what you
    do in half, adding more days off, perhaps doing something different,
    e.g., a single workout where you rep out on a relatively light weight if
    you've been doing low-rep strength training. For most people, the
    easiest approach is three weeks on, one week off or at reduced volume.
    You should actually start to feel yourself detraining during your down
    time, and if you do, your body will likely come back even stronger
    during the next cycle.

    I don't know you at all but this is something many people overlook so I
    thought I'd mention it. For me, part of the solution is to enter a
    competition a few times a year and work backwards from that, having a
    couple of months before each competition when I'm training hard and
    focused on my goal, and during the other times I tend take it a little
    easier. The cyclic approach needn't just be in terms of days and week
    or even months and years. Some people take a year off then find they
    return even stronger. Interestingly, many great performances have come
    on the heels of injuries, and at least some people thing it's the
    injury-forced rest that lead to the great performance. The classic
    usually cited is Joan Benoit's Olympic Marathon gold medal but there are
    many others - see the out-of-print (unfortunately) book entitled
    "Consistent Winning" for more on cycling your training. Amazon.com says
    it has several used copies for sale for only a few dollars.

    Best of luck to you.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

    Quoted message said:

    --
    the CuriousKitten
    cur10usk1tt3n@ spamproof gmail.com

    Don't let the African Violets on the window sill fool you.

  13. i'd say go ahead and just flush all your supplements down the toilet
    'cause they're mostly garbage.

    make sure you get enough sleep at night.

    drink distilled water.

    take 1 gram of vitamin c crystals per day.

  14. Quoted message said:

    i'd say go ahead and just flush all your supplements down the toilet
    'cause they're mostly garbage.

    make sure you get enough sleep at night.

    drink distilled water.

    take 1 gram of vitamin c crystals per day.

    Uh-huh. And make sure your chakras are aligned.

  15. "JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    i'd say go ahead and just flush all your supplements down the toilet
    'cause they're mostly garbage.

    make sure you get enough sleep at night.

    drink distilled water.

    take 1 gram of vitamin c crystals per day.

    Uh-huh. And make sure your chakras are aligned.

    Oh, you cynic, John. He DID specify vitamin c CRYSTALS.

    Everybody knows the power of crystals.

    David

  16. Quoted message said:

    i'd say go ahead and just flush all your supplements down the toilet
    'cause they're mostly garbage.

    make sure you get enough sleep at night.

    drink distilled water.

    take 1 gram of vitamin c crystals per day.

    Get your karma adjusted first.

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