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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.

Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Long, as in 'Bhaal'.

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Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)

I'd say it like you would pronounce the acronym 'GPM', perhaps with a soft 'uh' at the end.

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Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee)

Like that, I think...

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or other? During the TDF, the commentator was saying it different.

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How about 'Ciöcc'? I don't think its pronunciation can be converted to english syllables.

Jonathan.

Phil said:

Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Short AFAIK.

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Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)

Might be something like "gee-pemm", I'm not sure if the last e is really pronounced.

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Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other?

That's quite close. The ch is definitely a hard "k" sound, but the first i is very short. "Byan-kee"
might be closer to truth. Then again, I might be completely off the mark.

-as

Italian words are easy to pronounce once you know the exact way you write them:

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Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)

Gipiemme is the 'explosion' of the acronym GPM, so you pronounce it someway like 'gee-pee-em-meh'
the last e is pronounced, although I think it's a sound not present in english.

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Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other? During the TDF, the commentator was

saying

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it different.

correct. say 'i' like you say 'e', 'ch' is simply 'k' -> beeankee

Anyway, these terms are easy :-) 'Campagnolo' or 'Marzocchi' are much more difficult...

Ciao Maurizio, Bologna, Italia

i won't say it's the correct way, but my buddy and i in high school (1980s) would say "cheee-owch"
with the O somewhere between a long and a short sound. but we didn't draw out the "cheee" part. it
was quickly pronounced.

eric

fresno, ca.

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How about 'Ciöcc'? I don't think its pronunciation can be converted to english syllables.

Jonathan.

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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.

Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a? Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol) Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other?
During the TDF, the commentator was

saying

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it different.

Stumpers: Giant Specialized GT Trek Redline

Continue the list with your own maybes or how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!

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Phil, Squid-in-Training

Heres an old French one, and one I am currently riding now. Motobecane I have heard it pronounced
two ways. mow-toe-bee-con-eeee mow-toe-bee-cane Just did my first solo century ride on it the 4th of
July weekend.

Dave

David Hutchinson said:

Motobecane

I've always just heard "moe toe bay kon"

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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.

Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a? Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol) Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other?
During the TDF, the commentator was saying it different.

Stumpers: Giant Specialized GT Trek Redline

Continue the list with your own maybes or how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!

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Phil, Squid-in-Training

Ciöcc = CHair + rOACH (it was the builder's nickname for his father in the dialect of Bergamo, not an Italian word)
Wilier = VILify +YAY (accent the YAY - family name from the part of Italy near Slovenia - also a non-Italian regional dialect)

Phil, Squid-in-Training at [email hidden] wrote on 7/10/03 12:37 AM:

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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French. Stumpers:

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Giant

French - "Ghee-AHNT"

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Specialized

British - "Spes-EE-all-eye-zed

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GT

Russian - "GTT" emphasis on the second "T"

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Trek

Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?

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Redline

Pacific Northwest - "ED-li" the "R" and "N" is silent

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Durace Italian - "do-RACH-chee"

Paul's Italian - "pa-ool-ESS-eh"

Huffy French - "hu"

SRAM Japanense - "shee-RAM-oh"

Cannondale Italian - "can-NAN-dah-lee"

Ultegra Spanish - "ul-teh-GRA"

Kona Hawaiian - "ko-na-ney-moo-ahh-lay-tay-moo-ahh-say-tay-mu-mu-ko-no-an-na-nay"

Ibis American - "<moment of silence></moment of silence>"

-- Jim

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Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for MAH-vI?

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Fritz M said:

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Motobecane

I've always just heard "moe toe bay kon"

That's about right, though I'd have written "moe toe bay KAHN"

FYI, the name means "Bikebike"

It's a combination of "moto" and "bécane." Both of these words would translate as "bike" in English,
but "moto" refers to a motorcycle, while "bécane" would refer to a bike with pedals.

The old Motobécane company made both sorts, though I don't think any of their motorcycles were ever
marketed in the U.S.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training at [email hidden] wrote on 7/10/03 12:37 AM:

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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French. Stumpers:

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Giant

French - "Ghee-AHNT"

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Specialized

British - "Spes-EE-all-eye-zed

One thoroughly disgruntled Texan apparently pronounced it "Specious-lies-d", and was banned from
chili cookoffs for a year.

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Trek

Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?

I think it's Volkswagen's new emergency road service plan. They sell cars with these mounted
on the roof.

[as for the rest....splorf!]

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Stumpers:

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Giant Specialized GT Trek Redline

Sears <Ci'-yarz> "southern U.S. pronunciation"

Murray <muhr'-reh"

Huffy "hmmm, I dunno...but you sure will"

Ted Williams "What the heck did he use...a bat or a Bike to hit the baseball with?"

Puch "ah too much fun with that one!"

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Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for MAH-vI?

Nope, and it's the last syllable that gets the stress: "Mah VEEK"

The handy mnemomic is "CaReFuL" for "C,R,F & L". Those four consonants are the only ones that are
commonly pronounced at the ends of French words.

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eric paul zamora said:

i won't say it's the correct way, but my buddy and i in high school (1980s) would say "cheee-owch"
with the O somewhere between a long and a short sound. but we didn't draw out the "cheee" part. it
was quickly pronounced.

eric

fresno, ca.

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From: "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]>

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How about 'Ciöcc'? I don't think its pronunciation can be converted to english syllables.

Jonathan.

If I recall correctly, Bicycling Mag went into this 20 or so years ago. The author claimed the
proper pronunciation was: CheeOKE, pronounced like "choke" but with a long "e" before the long "o"
and emphasizing the "OKE". Like you were saying "YO!" sandwiched between "Ch" and "K".

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Trek

Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?

In Dutch it's pronounced "Drek", which means excrement.

And the Italian pronunciation "Door-ah Atchee"---- it's spelled "Dura Ace".

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> Trek

Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?

In Dutch it's pronounced "Drek", which means excrement.

I've never looked at one closely, but my long association with VW did not lead me to expect that it
would be an exceptionally wonderful brand.

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Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for MAH-vI?

Nope, C, F, L and R are all commonly pronounced terminal consonants in French. Sometimes X as well.

"Mavic" would be "maah-VEEK"

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Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.

Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a? Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol) Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other?
During the TDF, the commentator was

saying

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it different.

Stumpers: Giant Specialized GT Trek Redline

Continue the list with your own maybes or how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Sheldon Brown said:

TBGibb said:

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Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?

Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for MAH-vI?

Nope, and it's the last syllable that gets the stress: "Mah VEEK"

I respectfully suggest that strict pronunciation rules may not apply to the name of a French company
which would choose to locate its US headquarters in the area surrounded by Worcester, Leominster,
Salisbury and Gloucester.
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