Quoted message said:Subject: Re: How to cure addicitions
From: "Dave" [email hidden]
Date: 10/11/2003 4:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
"Rich" <,@.> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:On 11 Oct 2003 22:59:58 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:
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Quoted message said:
You are having rebound headaches.
Now Jan Drew thinks she is a doctor. She is dispensing medical advice.
What qualifications does Jan Drew have to give medical advice??
This person should consult a real doctor and not listen to a
psychotic, delusional retired day care worker who thinks that people
are stalking her simply for responding to her posts in a public forum.
You continually prove the case against you. This poor individual has come
here asking for ALTERNATIVE help and what do you do? Disrespect him
and then make his request into an assault on Jan. You are simply a
despicable
person.
Poor obsessed Rich.
Here are his posts he has nuked, in trying to belittle me. They are as low as
it gets. He is to be pitied. They were posted by a gal here who had Rich's
number and took no bunk form him, or Andrew
Jan
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What is sadder is that Jan has two parents with Alzheimers disease who live
with her brother who she has accused in the past of being abusive
to her father. Why is Jan not spending more time with her ailing parents and
less time posting her drivel??
Jan says that this is the "happiest time of my life". How is that possible
with two parents with Alzheimers Disease?? Something just does not add up.
But maybe her parents are better off not having Jan take care of them. Her
intolerance and lack of understanding are not good qualities for someone
taking care of someone with Alzheimers Disease. Maybe they are better off
with her brother.
Let us all pray that Jan's parents pass quietly and peacefully. Lord knows
what they must be enduring.
You don't know how much longer your parents will be on this earth.
You waste so much time in this newsgroup when you have two parents who may
be close to death.
You say this is the "happiest time of your life" when you have two parents
in end stage Alzheimers who do not even recognize you, by your own
admission. Happiest time of your life with two parents dying a horrible
death???? And you call yourself a loving child. And you think that your
parents would be proud of you NOW??? Have you lost touch with reality??
Unfortunately they had no control over how their children would turn out and
whether they would be there in their time of need. They may not know who
you are but God sure knows that you are not spending as much time with them
as you should.
You are just a very selfish person who thinks about her own happiness at the
expense of her parents who are dying a horrible disease.
Having loving children spend as much time as they can with them IS something
that they could really use. The choice is yours. Think about it. After they
pass you will no longer be able to spend time with them. Time is limited.
They are your parents after all.
God is watching. You cannot fool him with your rationalizations about why
you spend so much time on usenet when the time could better be spent with
your parents.
Go visit your parents.
Just like Jan is happier than she has ever been even though she has two
parents dying of Alzheimers
Please get into therapy!!!!!!! Denying that your parents are dying is not
a healthy thing. It is terribly hard to accept the impending loss of loved
ones, but denial is NOT the answer. As much as it may hurt your pride to
accept Rich's words & advice, he is correct. You are spending your time
away from them (here on usenet) AND are even denying that at their age and
in their condition that they are, in fact, dying.
Please find a good therapist (none of that TFT [censored]) and spend time with
your parents while you still can. Usenet will be hear when you have gotten
your priorities in order. Honor your mother & father, Jan, they won't be
here forever.
**(((oh, wait, those last two were andrew kingoff doing his usual
copy-a-troll-any-troll routine.....)))**
Remember when I told you that you should visit your parents more often
because they may not have much more time left in this world and you
told me that I had no idea what I was talking about because your parents
were NOT dying. Within weeks of my comment your father died.
Perhaps without even seeing your parents I know more about their illness
than you do.
And your loving nature is equally evident. OTOH maybe it is better that you
DON'T visit your mother. She has enough problems as it is.
And since your mother is now staying with you it might be helpful to spend
quality time with her rather than working yourself up in this newsgroup.
You have clearly gone on record saying that you worked hard all your life
and now that you are retired you want to enjoy the good life which is why
you choose to not spend that much time with your mother. Hopefully you will
not resent your mother when her Alzheimer's Disease makes her difficult and
frustrating to care for.
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i could go on, i'm sure, but i think anyone who reads this will get the gist
of the irony about rich making accusations about 'common decency' in
usenet/email exchanges.
as for all of rich's hounding and goading and badgering and
**extremely-poor-taste** teasing, here is something that quite detracts from
rich's usual lame excuse that he is only 'trying to help' jan, and more than
puts all of his MHA mental health diagnosing in the category that it belongs
(trolling):
From: Rich [email hidden]
Date: 1/15/01 6:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
I personally do not think it is ethical to do any form of psychotherapy over
the phone Are you concerned about the limitations in make a diagnosis
without
seeing the person in real life???
and this:
From: Rich ([email hidden])
Subject: Re: I DON'T CARE WHO HAS BEEN BANNED!!
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 2001-01-15 15:16:04 PST
I personally do not think it is ethical to do any form of psychotherapy over
the phone unless you have previously had a face to face relationship with a
client and that person moved. I believe that it is important to have face to
face contact when evaluating someone for a mental health problem or treating
that person. Body language and a person's appearance may be an important
part of an evaluation that you would miss if you did it by telephone unless
you had video conferencing capability but even then it is a poor substitute
for actually being there IMO.
On 06 Mar 2001 01:37:01 GMT, [email hidden] (JDrew63929) wrote:>Where have
you seen a post of mine that sounded depressed??? I am in Florida>living the
good life, having a ball and life is grand. What part of that sounds>depressed
to you??It is very easy to write the words that you wrote above without
reallyexperiencing those feelings. That is the beauty of the internet.Things
often are not what they appear.And it seems as if you have good reason not to
feel so great (havinga ball and life is grand). I suspect that your continuing
to tell us how happy you are is a way for you to think that you are proving
all the naysayers wrong. But if it is true then I am glad that you have
finished
grieving over the tragic loss of your father. It took me a lot longer than that
to finish grieving over the loss of my parents.
It looks like *you* have not missed a beat
..Aloha,Rich
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Also from Rich.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you
pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be
the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your
brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck
out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You
hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you
will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
(Matthew 7:1-5 RSV)
