How to change gear when standing?

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Artoi (') said:

Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the pedal
and charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't take too
many revolutions before there's insufficient resistance for one to stay
standing. Can and should gears be changed while one is still standing
on the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would be much appreciated.

What's the problem? You just click the thumb-button on your right hand
hood. It helps to ease the pedalling for half a revolution to take the
strain off the system while it shifts, but there's no real difference
just because you're standing.

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

Artoi (') said:

Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the pedal
and charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't take too
many revolutions before there's insufficient resistance for one to stay
standing. Can and should gears be changed while one is still standing
on the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would be much appreciated.

What's the problem? You just click the thumb-button on your right hand
hood. It helps to ease the pedalling for half a revolution to take the
strain off the system while it shifts, but there's no real difference
just because you're standing.

Ok, I'll try it. I was concerned about the extra forces and potentially
damaging the mechanism or have the chain jump off. Thanks.
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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

Artoi (') said:

Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the pedal
and charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't take too
many revolutions before there's insufficient resistance for one to stay
standing. Can and should gears be changed while one is still standing
on the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would be much appreciated.

What's the problem? You just click the thumb-button on your right hand
hood. It helps to ease the pedalling for half a revolution to take the
strain off the system while it shifts, but there's no real difference
just because you're standing.

Ok, I'll try it. I was concerned about the extra forces and potentially
damaging the mechanism or have the chain jump off. Thanks.

Reasonable to be concerned, too. Mostly, you try to shift before you find
yourself spun out, and yes, definitely ease up on the pedals when you do. I've
found that with those shifters with the thumb button you can get away with a
slam shift in full stomp, but I prefer to not try it unless there's an actual
placing at stake.

Ron

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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,
Artoi ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the
> pedal and charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't
> take too many revolutions before there's insufficient resistance
> for one to stay standing. Can and should gears be changed while one
> is still standing on the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would
> be much appreciated.

What's the problem? You just click the thumb-button on your right
hand hood. It helps to ease the pedalling for half a revolution to
take the strain off the system while it shifts, but there's no real
difference just because you're standing.

Ok, I'll try it. I was concerned about the extra forces and potentially
damaging the mechanism or have the chain jump off. Thanks.

Reasonable to be concerned, too. Mostly, you try to shift before you
find yourself spun out, and yes, definitely ease up on the pedals when
you do. I've found that with those shifters with the thumb button you
can get away with a slam shift in full stomp...

Oh, absolutely, yes. Wouldn't try it with that far eastern rubbish...

More seriously, don't let your cadence drop too far before changing. If
you've got down to the point you can no longer pedal circles, you
probably can't change smoothly either. Again, in my experience,
standing and sitting doesn't make that much difference.

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RonSonic said:

Reasonable to be concerned, too. Mostly, you try to shift before you find
yourself spun out, and yes, definitely ease up on the pedals when you do.

That's the hard part I find. Hard to ease up when you are standing on
pedals?
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Simon Brooke said:

More seriously, don't let your cadence drop too far before changing. If
you've got down to the point you can no longer pedal circles, you
probably can't change smoothly either. Again, in my experience,
standing and sitting doesn't make that much difference.

Good point. I'll need to practice this.
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Artoi said:

Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the pedal and
charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't take too many
revolutions before there's insufficient resistance for one to stay
standing. Can and should gears be changed while one is still standing on
the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would be much appreciated.
--

Sounds like you're saying you spin out when you stand (i.e.
"insufficient resistance"😉. If that's the case, trying shifting one
gear higher, maybe two... before you stand up.

Just be careful that no one is riding right behind you when you do
this. You're likely to inadvertantly throw your bike back a bit as you
stand. If someone's following too closely, you'll likely hit their
front wheel. You won't crash. They will (probably).

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Scott said:

Sounds like you're saying you spin out when you stand (i.e.
"insufficient resistance"😉. If that's the case, trying shifting one
gear higher, maybe two... before you stand up.

Yep, hence the question as to in which position should I change the
gear. It sounds like that I can do it safely when standing and not have
to sit down for the change.

Quoted message said:

Just be careful that no one is riding right behind you when you do
this. You're likely to inadvertantly throw your bike back a bit as you
stand. If someone's following too closely, you'll likely hit their
front wheel. You won't crash. They will (probably).

Yes, my son who just threw out his training wheels and have just learnt
not to follow me too closely. 😉
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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

RonSonic said:

Reasonable to be concerned, too. Mostly, you try to shift before you find
yourself spun out, and yes, definitely ease up on the pedals when you do.

That's the hard part I find. Hard to ease up when you are standing on
pedals?
--

I don't think so - it's just a momentary easing of pedal pressure as you pop the
shifter then back on it again.

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tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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MagillaGorilla said:

Put the credit card away, Arty. Only use that when you go to Interbike
in Vegas to pay for some call girls. And even then, make sure you
change your name to Olin Bakke so the charges of larceny and credit card
fraud will be dropped when your D.S. finds out you stole the team credit
card and bought some gifts for yourself.

How wise, can only come out of a genius cyclist! 😉
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Artoi said:

Any insider tips on how to change RD gear when standing on the pedal and
charging up the hill? Each time I stood up, it doesn't take too many
revolutions before there's insufficient resistance for one to stay
standing. Can and should gears be changed while one is still standing on
the pedals? Any tips on riding up-hill would be much appreciated.

If you're shifting to a higher gear, that (should) means you have ample
power. Use that power to spin up a few RPM's extra. Your pedal pressure
will necessarily drop, making the shift easier on the mechanism.

Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

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I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

in message <[email hidden]>, Raptor

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Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Definitely worth doing.

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Raptor said:

Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂
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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Raptor said:

Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂

Cute girls common in Spin classes, IME. Well worth attending. --D-y

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Raptor said:

Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂

I rode bikes outdoors forever. Climbing, I either sat and ground away,
or stood and "sprinted." I think it was the moderate resistance that did
the trick more than the horizontal indoor bike. I was able to work on
the technique for long minutes without gassing myself. Muscles I wasn't
used to using had to get used (and complained), but it was worth it.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

Raptor said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Raptor said:

Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂

I rode bikes outdoors forever. Climbing, I either sat and ground away,
or stood and "sprinted." I think it was the moderate resistance that did
the trick more than the horizontal indoor bike. I was able to work on
the technique for long minutes without gassing myself. Muscles I wasn't
used to using had to get used (and complained), but it was worth it.

Riding off road, either cross or mountain bike you get used to standing to pedal
at moderate torque settings.

Ron

RonSonic said:

Riding off road, either cross or mountain bike you get used to standing to pedal
at moderate torque settings.

Not in my experience. Even now, I spin out too easily unless I'm riding
on slickrock.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

RonSonic said:

Raptor said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Raptor <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
> to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂

I rode bikes outdoors forever. Climbing, I either sat and ground away,
or stood and "sprinted." I think it was the moderate resistance that did
the trick more than the horizontal indoor bike. I was able to work on
the technique for long minutes without gassing myself. Muscles I wasn't
used to using had to get used (and complained), but it was worth it.

Riding off road, either cross or mountain bike you get used to standing to pedal
at moderate torque settings.

Why stand when you can sit?
- Robert Millar

RonSonic said:

Raptor said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Raptor <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Also practice spinning efficiently while standing. I had to go indoors
> to learn this, but it's given me an extra option going uphill.

Thanks. I'll look into the technique and execution of it. 🙂

I rode bikes outdoors forever. Climbing, I either sat and ground away,
or stood and "sprinted." I think it was the moderate resistance that did
the trick more than the horizontal indoor bike. I was able to work on
the technique for long minutes without gassing myself. Muscles I wasn't
used to using had to get used (and complained), but it was worth it.

Riding off road, either cross or mountain bike you get used to standing to pedal
at moderate torque settings.

Alas, my (hardtail) MTB has a suspension fork with no lock-out. Standing
to pedal is a suckful pogo experience. On the plus side, it forces me to
get better at seated climbing.

--
Chris BeHanna

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