How to be the only one on the trails

"SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether it

was

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raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get choosy
and would pass on the rain rides.

I was out this morning - it was pouring hard when I went out. The trails
were awesome !!
There was no one else out there, it was very wet and muddy, roots and

rocks

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were slippery.
Definitely more touch downs than normal but all the same it was a blast. I
forgot how much fun rain rides are.

Sniffinvinyl
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Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

Riding in the rain is fine but when it gets muddy the trails get trashed if
you ride them. There are some trails that I ride when it's wet and some I
stay away from.

Marty

"SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether it

was

Quoted message said:

raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get choosy
and would pass on the rain rides.

I was out this morning - it was pouring hard when I went out. The trails
were awesome !!
There was no one else out there, it was very wet and muddy, roots and

rocks

Quoted message said:

were slippery.
Definitely more touch downs than normal but all the same it was a blast. I
forgot how much fun rain rides are.

Sniffinvinyl

Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
trail. Riding when the trails are at their wettest, as you did, does the
most damage. Now, when that trail dries, all your tracks are going to be
ruts in what was probably a smooth trail.

There's a reason no one else was out riding.

Chris

SniffinVinyl said:

This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether it was
raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get choosy
and would pass on the rain rides.

I was out this morning - it was pouring hard when I went out. The trails
were awesome !!
There was no one else out there, it was very wet and muddy, roots and rocks
were slippery.
Definitely more touch downs than normal but all the same it was a blast. I
forgot how much fun rain rides are.

Sniffinvinyl
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That's because most trials are closed when it's raining, knucklehead!
Get caught riding in the rain around here and get a nice $$ fine.

A better way is to take a week day off from week and go riding. My buddy
and I had a very popular trail all to ourselves yesterday ... well
almost, except for the two hikers I nearly ran over. Scared the [censored] out
of all of us.
--
Slacker

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This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

Ask the people who maintain your trails if they agree with this
recommendation.

That ranks up there with telling people to skid down hills to me.

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This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

Na, go in the middle of the week...total solitude!

and as a bonus, you don't screw up the trails...

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I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether
it was raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get
choosy and would pass on the rain rides.

Down here we don't ride for a day a two after a rain. Simple as that...

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SniffinVinyl said:

This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether it

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get

choosy

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and would pass on the rain rides.

I was out this morning - it was pouring hard when I went out. The trails
were awesome !!
There was no one else out there, it was very wet and muddy, roots and

rocks

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were slippery.
Definitely more touch downs than normal but all the same it was a blast.

I

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forgot how much fun rain rides are.

OK humble pie time. Your right, I agree that making muddy trails worse is
definitely uncool. But I am talking about hard packed singletrack which does
not get muddy in one rainfall, it is more likely to pool surface water.

When I see a boggy area I wil not ride thru it, I will walk the bike or
carry it..
I would like to think I am more sensitive to trail environment than the post
may have suggested.

Sniffinvinyl
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Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

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"SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> had this to say
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Quoted message said:

This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

Na, go in the middle of the week...total solitude!

and as a bonus, you don't screw up the trails...

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I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether
it was raining or not.
When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get
choosy and would pass on the rain rides.

Down here we don't ride for a day a two after a rain. Simple as that...

If we did that here in the UK we'd never get out on a bike again :-(

--
Uncle Keith

On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:04:00 +0100, Uncle Keith <[email hidden]> wrote:

..In article <[email hidden]>, Dave W
..<[email hidden]> wrote:
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..> "SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> had this to say
..> news:[email hidden]
..>
..> > This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:
..> >
..> > Go riding in the pouring rain.
..>
..> Na, go in the middle of the week...total solitude!
..>
..>
..> and as a bonus, you don't screw up the trails...
..> >
..> > I say this because when I was riding alot, it did not matter whether
..> > it was raining or not.
..> > When my cycling started tailing off, I found that I started to get
..> > choosy and would pass on the rain rides.
..>
..> Down here we don't ride for a day a two after a rain. Simple as that...
..>
..
..If we did that here in the UK we'd never get out on a bike again :-(

And that'd be bad because?
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"SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> had this to say
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This is more for newbies, I expect cycling addicts know this already:

Go riding in the pouring rain.

Na, go in the middle of the week...total solitude!

Or in the middle of Pennsylvania.

In Chris said:

Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
trail. Riding when the trails are at their wettest, as you did, does
the most damage. Now, when that trail dries, all your tracks are
going to be ruts in what was probably a smooth trail.

There's a reason no one else was out riding.

Chris

Where I used to live (the Pacific Northwest) everybody who rides
frequently does so in the rain as a matter of habit. It rains a lot
there, and most trails aren't subject to damage from riding in the wet.
Some are, and the conscientious riders stay away from those.
There are a few trails here in San Diego that aren't damaged by riding
when wet- in fact, I can name some trails that are better to ride soon
after a rain (or during, I guess) than when completely dry.

miles

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Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
trail.

Will you be available to decide when it is okay to ride?

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Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
trail.

Will you be available to decide when it is okay to ride?

Not just me. The thousands of riders that volunteer time at
trail-maintenance days and work to educate newbs all have had their say -
and good trail systems are clearly marked regarding how/when/if/why
regarding riding in the rain. Telling newbies to go ride in the rain
because the trail is empty is a recipe for disaster, and if your head wasn't
up your ass you'd know this.

Anything else you need?

Chris

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anything else you need?

Will you be available to decide when it is okay to ride?

You never really gave me an answer - you just started talking silly about
the thousands of volunteers you represent, the fact that trail systems are
marked and generally demonstrating the fact the you can not understand that
every trail system is not like your own - just like you can not understand
that my head is not like your own.

On Tue, 04 May 2004 00:17:47 GMT, miles <[email hidden]> wrote:

..In <[email hidden]> Chris wrote:
..
..> Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
..> trail. Riding when the trails are at their wettest, as you did, does
..> the most damage. Now, when that trail dries, all your tracks are
..> going to be ruts in what was probably a smooth trail.
..>
..> There's a reason no one else was out riding.
..>
..> Chris
..>
..>
..>
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..Where I used to live (the Pacific Northwest) everybody who rides
..frequently does so in the rain as a matter of habit. It rains a lot
..there, and most trails aren't subject to damage from riding in the wet.

Oh, so the laws of physics are different in the Pacific Northwest? What a LIAR.
I know that area, and you are full of it. You ride in wet conditions simply
because you WANT to, regardless of the damage it does, which is the same as
everywhere else.

..Some are, and the conscientious riders stay away from those.
..There are a few trails here in San Diego that aren't damaged by riding
..when wet- in fact, I can name some trails that are better to ride soon
..after a rain (or during, I guess) than when completely dry.
..
..miles

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:01:45 GMT, "TM" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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.."Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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..>
..> Anything else you need?
..>
..
..Will you be available to decide when it is okay to ride?
..
..You never really gave me an answer - you just started talking silly about
..the thousands of volunteers you represent, the fact that trail systems are
..marked and generally demonstrating the fact the you can not understand that
..every trail system is not like your own - just like you can not understand
..that my head is not like your own.

You expect an honest answer from a MOUNTAIN BIKER? rotfl
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 00:17:47 GMT, miles <[email hidden]> wrote:

.In <[email hidden]> Chris wrote:
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.> Newbies are the ones least able to decide when it's okay to ride a wet
.> trail. Riding when the trails are at their wettest, as you did, does
.> the most damage. Now, when that trail dries, all your tracks are
.> going to be ruts in what was probably a smooth trail.
.>
.> There's a reason no one else was out riding.
.>
.> Chris
.>
.>
.>
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.Where I used to live (the Pacific Northwest) everybody who rides
.frequently does so in the rain as a matter of habit. It rains a lot
.there, and most trails aren't subject to damage from riding in the wet.

Oh, so the laws of physics are different in the Pacific Northwest? What a >LIAR.
I know that area

I'll bet you do. It's pretty difficult to start a *fire* in such
wet conditions, eh?

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On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:01:45 GMT, "TM" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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."Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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.>
.>
.> Anything else you need?
.>
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.Will you be available to decide when it is okay to ride?
.
.You never really gave me an answer - you just started talking silly about
.the thousands of volunteers you represent, the fact that trail systems are
.marked and generally demonstrating the fact the you can not understand that
.every trail system is not like your own - just like you can not understand
.that my head is not like your own.

You expect an honest answer from a MOUNTAIN BIKER? rotfl

Don't you mean "ROTFPMPTTSCNL"?

MV says:

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Oh, so the laws of physics are different in the Pacific Northwest?

No, just the soils. I suggest you look in your local library (walk, don't
drive) under "GEOLOGY for Idiots". It was written just for you.

Ride at NIGHT
--
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