How the media move on...

Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

I'm training an attack budgie. Not sure if it'll be lethal by next week though.

But seriously, don't dogs have to be licensed anyway? Could you really train the viciousness out of a Rottweiler? (My staffy is still a nasty [censored] despite years of tender kindness) And would 3rd party insurance help to replace a baby?

Wheelist (getting ready to jump on the next media bandwagon)

wheelist said:

Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?I'm training an attack budgie. Not sure if it'll be lethal by next week

though.

But seriously, don't dogs have to be licensed anyway? Could you really
train the viciousness out of a Rottweiler? (My staffy is still a nasty
[censored] despite years of tender kindness) And would 3rd party insurance
help to replace a baby?

Indeed, another caller suggested that schools should be educating
toddlers about the dangers of dogs.

*boggle*

-Alex

Hellmutts and bells
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Quoted message said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

wheelist said:

Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?I'm training an attack
budgie. Not sure if it'll be lethal by next week though.

But seriously, don't dogs have to be licensed anyway?

Not any more. 'twas abolished in 1987.

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Tip of the Day: 20%

Dave Larrington said:

Not any more. 'twas abolished in 1987.

Aah. That explains why I don't have one. What about budgies? 😉

wheelist said:

But seriously, don't dogs have to be licensed anyway?

No, not since 1987.

Quoted message said:

Could you really
train the viciousness out of a Rottweiler?

Why would a Rottweiler be vicious in the first place? Mine certainly
wasn't, she was one of the gentlest dogs I've ever had. Dogs that are
vicious have not been brought up to be sociable and to know their place in
the pecking order. The only safe place in the pecking order for a large or
strong dog is at the bottom. The only 100% safe place for a vicious dog is
the one way trip to the vets.

Quoted message said:

(My staffy is still a nasty
[censored] despite years of tender kindness)

As Staffordshire bull terriers have a reputation for being friendly and
obedient, that would suggest that the problem lies with its training, and
ultimately, with its owner.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/staffordshirebullterrier.htm

Tom
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Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

In a recent survey at my kid's school it wasn't dangerous roads that
distressed people about walking to school, it was the quantity of dog
[censored] on the pavements.
Pavement cyclists may be aggressive and frightening to peds, but at
least you don't have to scrape their [censored] off your shoes.

POHB said:

Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

In a recent survey at my kid's school it wasn't dangerous roads that
distressed people about walking to school, it was the quantity of dog
[censored] on the pavements.
Pavement cyclists may be aggressive and frightening to peds, but at
least you don't have to scrape their [censored] off your shoes.

Local bloke used to walk his red setter past my work every day and let
it do a big coily turd on the pavement almost directly underneath a
sign warning of a big fine for not cleaning your dog-eggs. And yes, it
was within 300m of two schools.

After a couple of polite words it was obvious he really didn't care.

He did care, however, when the Police were there to fine him for not
cleaning up after his dog.

Routines can be a bad thing you see. Walking the dog at the same time
every day meant that a well informed copper only had to wait 3 minutes
before he was able to witness the event and nobble him for not cleaning
up.

-Alex

Tom said:

Quoted message said:

(My staffy is still a nasty
[censored] despite years of tender kindness)

As Staffordshire bull terriers have a reputation for being friendly and
obedient, that would suggest that the problem lies with its training, and
ultimately, with its owner.

Absolutely. He was rescued from a pimp in the highfields area (red light district) of Leicester. It's our belief (from information gained from the prostitute living at the same address) that the pimp threw him off the 3rd floor fire escape at the back of their flat.

Since we rescued him and moved to Wales, and now he's walked for 1 1/2 hours every day, he's become a much more sociable animal, though he can still turn nasty at times. We've taken him to obedience classes and seen a dog psychologist but I'm fairly sure we'll never break his habit of trying top attack the postman.

Now, were you accusing me of being a bad owner?

Alex said:

Routines can be a bad thing you see. Walking the dog at the same time
every day meant that a well informed copper only had to wait 3 minutes
before he was able to witness the event and nobble him for not cleaning
up.

Serves the anti-social git right. Deep joy!

--
Dave...

wheelist said:

Now, were you accusing me of being a bad owner?

Not if you were not the one who had the job of socialising the dog in it's
formative months. Though why you'd keep a dog that you know wants to attack
people beats me.

There are lots of dogs needing good homes and precious few who want to
offer them.

Tom
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Return address is dead. Real address is at
http://www.box.net/public/0n493oa6y7

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POHB said:

Alex said:

MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

In a recent survey at my kid's school it wasn't dangerous roads that
distressed people about walking to school, it was the quantity of dog
[censored] on the pavements.
Pavement cyclists may be aggressive and frightening to peds, but at
least you don't have to scrape their [censored] off your shoes.

Local bloke used to walk his red setter past my work every day and let
it do a big coily turd on the pavement almost directly underneath a
sign warning of a big fine for not cleaning your dog-eggs. And yes, it
was within 300m of two schools.

After a couple of polite words it was obvious he really didn't care.

He did care, however, when the Police were there to fine him for not
cleaning up after his dog.

Routines can be a bad thing you see. Walking the dog at the same time
every day meant that a well informed copper only had to wait 3 minutes
before he was able to witness the event and nobble him for not cleaning
up.

-Alex

Reminds me of one of my colleagues who witnessed a chap with a dog doing the
same on the grass verge outside her house - again too it was not the first
time. She too politely asked him to clean it up and was verbally abused.

She discretly followed him home then reported the matter to the council.

They witnessed the incident shortly afterwards and gave him a fine.

The sting in the tail here though was when he gave his address and was asked
how long he had lived there they went back to the office and checked up to
find that the woman who was registered at that address was claiming all
sorts of benefits as a single parent.

Bingo!!

DaveB

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As Staffordshire bull terriers have a reputation for being friendly and
obedient, that would suggest that the problem lies with its training, and
ultimately, with its owner.

Staffies are soft as anything, although they can be very protective and
they're not too keen on other dogs - there was one wandering around town
one day and people were getting all upset and giving him a wide berth,
one nutter even threw a rubbish bin at him, just because he barked at
some other dogs. I went up to him, said hello and slipped my belt
around his collar - he was so pleased to have someone be his person, and
we spent some quality time while I unsuccessfully tried to contact his
owner. I wanted to take him home with me, but as I was living in
student halls at the time I had to drop him off at the police station.
:-(

Rob Morley said:

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Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

As Staffordshire bull terriers have a reputation for being friendly and
obedient, that would suggest that the problem lies with its training, and
ultimately, with its owner.

Staffies are soft as anything, although they can be very protective and
they're not too keen on other dogs - there was one wandering around town
one day and people were getting all upset and giving him a wide berth,
one nutter even threw a rubbish bin at him, just because he barked at
some other dogs. I went up to him, said hello and slipped my belt
around his collar - he was so pleased to have someone be his person, and
we spent some quality time while I unsuccessfully tried to contact his
owner. I wanted to take him home with me, but as I was living in
student halls at the time I had to drop him off at the police station.
:-(

Rob, you're spot on.

My dog Dave is a lovely dog when he's not angry. He plays with other dogs (though he's a bit choosy), loves to play with kids on the park, but can be aggressive when he's on his lead or if strangers come to the house - I suppose he's just being protective.

The first time I saw him (we went round the neighbours place out of concern) he was crouched at the end of a [censored]-filled yard growling and baring his teeth. I squatted down and said "Ah, come here boy", his expression softened and he charged and jumped all over me, covering me in aforementioned excrement. He was just so pleased to have any kind of attention I think. I wasn't as pleased, but what can you do?

Should I have had him put down? Well, is it fair to blame the poor animal for the sins of his previous owner. I think not. Plus, with 20 bikes or thereabouts in the shed it's nice to know that people will be wary of entering my property.

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MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

But only cats should come with bells on :P

--
Dave Lloyd
So open minded, my brains dribbled out.

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MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

Doggy licence plates? All beginning K9 obviously.

(Sorry, I'll get me coat.)

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MP proposing that dog owners, in the light of recent horrific attacks
by dogs, should be licensed, properly trained and carry third party
insurance.

Seems familiar. What'll it be next week?

But only cats should come with bells on :P

My three do!

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Should I have had him put down? Well, is it fair to blame the poor
animal for the sins of his previous owner. I think not. Plus, with 20
bikes or thereabouts in the shed it's nice to know that people will be
wary of entering my property.

As long as he's properly controlled it's not a problem - you just have
to be extra careful to avoid risk to other people and their dogs, and
put up with the disapproval of people who think you haven't brung him up
proper.

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Dave Larrington said:

Not any more. 'twas abolished in 1987.
Aah. That explains why I don't have one. What about budgies? 😉

There would have to be considerable ramping up of the infrastructure
before budgie licensing came in. Think how the training courses
would strain the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, and the
Royal Zoological Society.

There was considerable chaos when licensing for looking after
children came in. It would be the same for looking after budgies

Jeremy Parker