*How much* protein is needed to slow down glycose absorption?

Shiperton Henethe said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples) during
my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

I didn't know protein did slow down glucose absorption, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Fat does,
but by how much probably depends on the type of fat and how it's presented, i.e. whether as lumps
(as in hard fats in meats), emulsion (as in milk etc) or as liquid (as in oils). You'll have to
experiment for yourself, because another probable variable, as always, is the individual.

Quoted message said:

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E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

Ship,

I'm not an expert, but Rick Mendosa is: "Therefore, it looks like you can simply ignore protein and
fat in mixed meal calculations.

"Of much greater concern is how protein and fat affect blood glucose levels in the long term,"
Jennie Brand-Miller of the University of Sydney writes me. "High fat and high protein diets have the
distinct potential to induce insulin resistance, which would mean that any carbohydrate eaten would
raise blood glucose and insulin levels to greater heights on a day to day basis. However, the type
of fat may be important here. A recent study in Diabetologia showed that moderately high MUFA
[monounsaturated fatty acids] diets improved insulin sensitivity, if the fat was less than a certain
level (higher than 37% was associated with insulin resistance)."
diabetes.about.comnmendosagi.htmOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples) during
my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

in article [email hidden], Shiperton Henethe
at [email hidden] wrote on 9/24/03 11:25 AM:

Quoted message said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples) during
my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

Protein burns at a flat rate. Sugar/carbs sharply raise your blood sugar level then drop it below
the original levels. Therefore the theory is that if you consume protein prior to sugar, you protect
yourself from the sharp drop. YMMV.

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Quoted message said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples) during
my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

You might want to try this site. It actually explains what foods trigger insulin need and glycemic
control. mendosa.cominsulin index.htmOpen ↗

I know it may not address the issue you are trying to get info on. The entire site has some very
interesting non-biased info there On a second note I have been told by both nutritionists and
dieticians that eating proteins with carbs helps to "balance" them out regarding absorption

Lauri

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I didn't know protein did slow down glucose absorption, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Fat does,
but by how much probably depends on the type of fat and how it's presented, i.e. whether as lumps
(as in hard fats in meats), emulsion (as in milk etc) or as liquid (as in oils). You'll have to
experiment for yourself, because another probable variable, as always, is the individual.

That's what I thought too.

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Shiperton Henethe said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples) during
my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

I didn't know protein did slow down glucose absorption, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Fat does,
but by how much probably depends on the type of fat and how it's presented, i.e. whether as lumps
(as in hard fats in meats), emulsion (as in milk etc) or as liquid (as in oils). You'll have to
experiment for yourself, because another probable variable, as always, is the individual.

Quoted message said:

Well, I'm not convinced either way myself. But there might be something in it, if we assume that
proteins require acid to be digested whereas carbohydrates (esp complex ones) require alkaline.

But several nutritionists have now told me to eat protein with all snacks "to slow the sugar
abosorption" and that to eat say fruit by itself is asking for trouble.

Maybe I would be better drinking some olive oil with my apple (yuk!) to slow it down!

Incidentally, do we think that drinking fresh veg juices is same for folks with sugar regulation
problems like me? I gather drinking fruit juices is frowned apon...

Ship Shiperton Henethe

P.S. I just discovered the "Followup-To:" field in my newgroup browsing software. What's if
for anyone?

Brad Sheppard said:

I'm not an expert, but Rick Mendosa is: "Therefore, it looks like you can simply ignore protein
and fat in mixed meal calculations.

I'm not an expert, but I know what I've measured, and it doesn't support that.

Quoted message said:

levels in the long term," Jennie Brand-Miller of the University of Sydney writes me. "High fat
and high protein diets have the distinct potential to induce insulin resistance, which would mean
that any

I've heard plenty of credible reports that being overweight correlates to insulin resistance, but
this is the first suggestion I've ever heard that my diet has "the distinct potential to" make my
condition worse. I am glad to report that it is not living up to its potential. :-)

Quoted message said:

carbohydrate eaten would raise blood glucose and insulin levels to greater heights on a day to day
basis. However, the type of fat may be important here. A recent study in Diabetologia showed that
moderately high MUFA [monounsaturated fatty acids] diets improved insulin sensitivity, if the fat
was less than a certain level (higher than 37% was associated with insulin resistance)."

Hmm. Maybe that's it. I probably do not exceed 37% But I wonder (if and when I get the article)
whether I'll notice any variables they did not consider.

--
Wes Groleau "The plural of 'anecdote' is NOT 'data'"

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Quoted message said:

in article [email hidden], Shiperton Henethe at [email hidden]
wrote on 9/24/03 11:25 AM:

Quoted message said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples)
during my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible absorption
rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

Protein burns at a flat rate. Sugar/carbs sharply raise your blood sugar level then drop it below
the original levels. Therefore the theory is

that

Quoted message said:

if you consume protein prior to sugar, you protect yourself from the sharp drop. YMMV.

Ah-ha! You protect against the sharp glucose *drop* but not the sharp rise... Hmmm... I guess it
depends on what's doing the damage in the first place!

I'm sub-clinical reactive hypo. And my assumption (un-proven) is that my insulin is being dumped too
much too late into my bloodstream.

The question is why is this happening?

And how can I make my pancreas more "sensitive"
i.e. faster to react to small increases in glucose, and (thereby?) less "over-sensitive"
i.f. inclined to dump too much insulin (when the glucose levels get high...).

Thus, if the high sugar levels are exhausting the pancreas, then protecting against drops may not do
much good... in the long run.

But I do concede that protecting against low glucose levels (and sharp drops) does protect against
my feeling like death... in the short run!

However it is the longer run that concerns me.

Maybe I shouldnt be eating any carbs at all! That would certainly sort out the glucose levels. And
if I ate lots of leafy salad and oils and fish and meat (but no fruit, no starchy veg and no grains
whatso ever) I wouldnt get acid/gout problems.

OR

Maybe I should deliberately eat 3 grams of ripe fruit every half hour round the clock... ?

Ship

Quoted message said:

I know it may not address the issue you are trying to get info on. The entire site has some very
interesting non-biased info there On a second note I have been told by both nutritionists and
dieticians that eating proteins with carbs helps to "balance" them out regarding absorption

"Balance them out regarding absorption" ??

Yeah well my nutritions came up with something similar but is this science-based does anyone know?!

Ship

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Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

Shiperton Henethe said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples)
during my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible
absorption rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

I didn't know protein did slow down glucose absorption, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Fat
does, but by how much probably depends on the type of fat and how it's presented, i.e. whether
as lumps (as in hard fats in meats), emulsion (as in milk etc) or as liquid (as in oils). You'll
have to experiment for yourself, because another probable variable, as always, is the
individual.

Quoted message said:

Well, I'm not convinced either way myself. But there might be something in it, if we assume that
proteins require acid to be digested whereas carbohydrates (esp complex ones) require alkaline.

But several nutritionists have now told me to eat protein with all snacks "to slow the sugar
abosorption" and that to eat say fruit by itself is asking for trouble.

Those nutritionists misunderstand (as usual). Protien doesn't slow absorption so much as burn
slowly. Sugar and other high glycemic food is processed quickly and you can get a spike and crash,
while protien, on the other hand converts at a slow even pace, and helps keep your bs elevated
enough to prevent a hypoglycemia episode. A good thing for those with insulin issues. However,
eating protien with your carbs won't prevent high blood sugar.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I would be better drinking some olive oil with my apple (yuk!) to slow it down!

Fiber also slows absorption. That's one reason why fruit is better than fruit juice.

Quoted message said:

Incidentally, do we think that drinking fresh veg juices is same for folks with sugar regulation
problems like me? I gather drinking fruit juices is frowned apon...

Yes, mostly, although there are exceptions to every rule. All the fiber is removed from veggie
juices just as in fruit. Lots of veggies, like carrots, are quite carby. Once you've removed the
fiber, the juice from one carrot, even if you can budget the carbs, doesn't look like much. One
*serving* of juice probably entails several carrots, and is probably over the carb limit for most,
but if you can budget the carbs, can handle the bs swing, or plan to burn it all off with heavy
excersize right away then anything goes.

Quoted message said:

Ship Shiperton Henethe

P.S. I just discovered the "Followup-To:" field in my newgroup browsing software. What's if for
anyone?

To redirect replies to your posts to another group. For instance, you are posting to a crossposted
thread and you want to "move" the discussion to neutral territory and out of your home ng. Or you
just want to make all replies to your post seem to disappear into the void. It is wise to announce
you are redirecting the thread, as most people don't notice what groups are being posted to when
they hit 'compose'.

hth

revek

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Quoted message said:

Shiperton Henethe said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples)
during my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible
absorption rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

I didn't know protein did slow down glucose absorption, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Fat
does, but by how much probably depends on the type of fat and how it's presented, i.e. whether
as lumps (as in hard fats in meats), emulsion (as in milk etc) or as liquid (as in oils). You'll
have to experiment for yourself, because another probable variable, as always, is the
individual.

Quoted message said:

Well, I'm not convinced either way myself. But there might be something in it, if we assume that
proteins require acid to be digested whereas carbohydrates (esp complex ones) require alkaline.

But several nutritionists have now told me to eat protein with all snacks "to slow the sugar
abosorption" and that to eat say fruit by itself is asking for trouble.

Well as usual, your "nutrionists" (MOST "nutrisionists" in fact) is half right half wrong. Protein
doesn't slow anything down, it's simply absorbed more slowly than carbs, and eat fruit isn't always
a bad thing. SOME fruits take forever to release their carbs, while others do it almost instantly,
so the information you got was about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I would be better drinking some olive oil with my apple (yuk!) to slow it down!

Just fry the apple in beef dripping :-))

Quoted message said:

Incidentally, do we think that drinking fresh veg juices is same for folks with sugar regulation
problems like me? I gather drinking fruit juices is frowned apon...

I don't know about drinking veggie juice (it's not something I fancy at all), but fruit juices are a
definite no-no for me, so I suppose it's the same for anyone with a sugar control problem.

Beav

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in article [email hidden], Shiperton

Henethe

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Quoted message said:

at [email hidden] wrote on 9/24/03 11:25 AM:

Quoted message said:

Hi

I understand that if I eat "some protein"
(e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples)
during my snacks.

My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?

e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible
absorption rate (i.e.. glycemic index)

With thanks

Ship Shiperton Henethe

(Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)

Protein burns at a flat rate. Sugar/carbs sharply raise your blood

sugar

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

level then drop it below the original levels. Therefore the theory is

that

Quoted message said:

if you consume protein prior to sugar, you protect yourself from the

sharp

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

drop. YMMV.

Ah-ha! You protect against the sharp glucose *drop* but not the sharp rise... Hmmm... I guess it
depends on what's doing the damage in the first place!

Yep.

Quoted message said:

I'm sub-clinical reactive hypo. And my assumption (un-proven) is that my insulin is being dumped
too much too late into my bloodstream.

I'm hypoglycemic too. I've been told that protien is the way to go.

Quoted message said:

The question is why is this happening?

And how can I make my pancreas more "sensitive"
i.e. faster to react to small increases in glucose, and (thereby?) less "over-sensitive"
i.e. inclined to dump too much insulin (when the glucose levels get high...).

I belive there are drugs that help. Also, low carb helps tremendously.

Quoted message said:

Thus, if the high sugar levels are exhausting the pancreas, then protecting against drops may not
do much good... in the long run.

You will most probably continue down the road to full blown diabetes.

Quoted message said:

But I do concede that protecting against low glucose levels (and sharp drops) does protect against
my feeling like death... in the short run!

Keeps me sane. 🙂

Quoted message said:

However it is the longer run that concerns me.

Maybe I shouldnt be eating any carbs at all! That would certainly sort out the glucose levels. And
if I ate lots of leafy salad and oils and fish and meat (but no fruit, no starchy veg and no grains
whatso ever) I wouldnt get acid/gout problems.

That's what I do. It works.

Quoted message said:

OR

Maybe I should deliberately eat 3 grams of ripe fruit every half hour round the clock... ?

Geh. I've tried that. Made me sick *and* crazy.

revek

Shiperton Henethe said:

I'm sub-clinical reactive hypo. And my assumption (un-proven) is that my insulin is being dumped
too much too late into my bloodstream.

I think this is what I was in the 1970s. (Different terminology then.) My assumption (un-proven)
was that my glucose was being dumped too fast into my bloodstream, causing excess (slower) insulin
to be released.

One cross-post removed. Other might consider continuing this trend. :-)

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Quoted message said:

I know it may not address the issue you are trying to get info on. The entire site has some very
interesting non-biased info there On a second note I have been told by both nutritionists and
dieticians that eating proteins with carbs helps to "balance" them out regarding absorption

"Balance them out regarding absorption" ??

Yeah well my nutritions came up with something similar but is this science-based does
anyone know?!

The only science based ANYTHING that came from a "nutritionist" is the letter "i"

Start listening to them and you're well along the road to a whole slew of complications in later
life. (Well you would be if you were diabetic)

Beav

revek said:

insulin issues. However, eating protien with your carbs won't prevent high blood sugar.

Perhaps not. It WILL slow down absorption. For some of us, this gives our bodies more time to handle
the sugar, preventing hazardous levels.

Empirically verified to be true for me at least.

--
Wes Groleau "The plural of anecdote is NOT data."

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P.S. I just discovered the "Followup-To:" field in my newgroup browsing software. What's if for
anyone?

To redirect replies to your posts to another group. For instance, you are posting to a crossposted
thread and you want to "move" the discussion to neutral territory and out of your home ng. Or you
just want to make all replies to your post seem to disappear into the void. It is wise to announce
you are redirecting the thread, as most people don't notice what groups are being posted to when
they hit 'compose'.

Okay interesting. But I presume there's no point *starting* a thread using "Followup-to:", right?

Ship

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in article [email hidden], Shiperton

Henethe

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at [email hidden] wrote on 9/24/03 11:25 AM:

> Hi
>
> I understand that if I eat "some protein"
> (e.g. some yoghurt) that this will slow down the absorption of carbohydrates (e.g. apples)
> during my snacks.
>
> My question is roughly *how much* protein do I need to eat?
>
> e.g. If I eat a nice ripe apple, how much yoghurt/cheese/meat/tofu should I eat with it? A
> teaspoon, a table spoon, a bowl-ful,
> 50:50 with the apple by weight... ? So as to bring the combination down to a sensible
> absorption rate (i.e.. glycemic index)
>
> With thanks
>
>
>
> Ship Shiperton Henethe
>
> (Non-clinical pre-diabetic/Reactive Hypoglycemica with 15 yrs chronic fatigue.)
>
>
>
Protein burns at a flat rate. Sugar/carbs sharply raise your blood

sugar

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

level then drop it below the original levels. Therefore the theory is

that

Quoted message said:

if you consume protein prior to sugar, you protect yourself from the

sharp

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

drop. YMMV.

Ah-ha! You protect against the sharp glucose *drop* but not the sharp rise... Hmmm... I guess it
depends on what's doing the damage in the first

place!

Quoted message said:

Yep.

Quoted message said:

I'm sub-clinical reactive hypo. And my assumption (un-proven) is that my insulin is being dumped
too much too late into my bloodstream.

I'm hypoglycemic too. I've been told that protien is the way to go.

Quoted message said:

The question is why is this happening?

And how can I make my pancreas more "sensitive"
i.e. faster to react to small increases in glucose, and (thereby?) less "over-sensitive"
i.e. inclined to dump too much insulin (when the glucose levels get high...).

I belive there are drugs that help. Also, low carb helps tremendously.

Quoted message said:

Thus, if the high sugar levels are exhausting the pancreas, then protecting against drops may
not do much good... in the long run.

You will most probably continue down the road to full blown diabetes.

Quoted message said:

But I do concede that protecting against low glucose levels (and sharp drops) does protect
against my feeling like death... in the short run!

Keeps me sane. 🙂

Quoted message said:

However it is the longer run that concerns me.

Maybe I shouldnt be eating any carbs at all! That would certainly sort out the glucose levels.
And if I ate lots of leafy salad and oils and fish and meat (but no fruit, no starchy veg and no
grains whatso ever) I wouldnt get acid/gout problems.

That's what I do. It works.

No fruit at all!? No starchy veg... ?

Yikes what does that mean - no root crop veg...
i.e. No potato, carrot, turnip, parsnip, yam, cassava...?

And no grains means no rice, no wheat, no barley, rye, sweetcorn, millet, quinoa...

So what veg DO you eat? Lettuce, cucumber, green/red peppers, er... onion ? Er choy?

What about dairy? Full fat??

Ship Shiperton Henethe

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P.S. I just discovered the "Followup-To:" field in my newgroup browsing software. What's if
for anyone?

To redirect replies to your posts to another group. For instance, you

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

posting to a crossposted thread and you want to "move" the discussion to neutral territory and
out of your home ng. Or you just want to make all replies to your post seem to disappear into
the void. It is wise to announce you are redirecting the thread, as most people don't notice

what

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groups are being posted to when they hit 'compose'.

Okay interesting. But I presume there's no point *starting* a thread using "Followup-to:", right?

It should be. Not all crossposted threads start out as flame wars, but it is rare to watch one *not*
devolve into one.

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No fruit at all!? No starchy veg... ? Yikes what does that mean - no root crop veg...
i.e. No potato, carrot, turnip, parsnip, yam, cassava...? And no grains means no rice, no wheat,
no barley, rye, sweetcorn, millet, quinoa...

No of course not, just not every day.

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So what veg DO you eat? Lettuce, cucumber, green/red peppers, er... onion ? Er choy?

Yes, and many more.

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What about dairy? Full fat??

Yes to both.

revek