HOW MUCH IS A CARB???

Bob La Londe said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb" was
just
an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself it
was
not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially
when
he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS" per
meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb that
is
really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

No.

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Quoted message said:

I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate.

What the dietician is referring to is a "carbohydrate exchange" type serving in
a typical diabetic diet. 15 grams of carbohydrate = one serving in their
world. Of course, in my world, this system never worked, but they don't seem
to care, do they?

Debbie

Your friend's dietician is talking about the Diabetic Exchange Diet.

One Carbohydrate Exchange Serving = 15g of carbs.

And yes, they do suggest 3 carb exchanges at each meal.

Jennifer

Bob La Londe said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb" was just
an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself it was
not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially when
he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS" per
meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb that is
really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

3 carb exchanges at each meal!!!!???? That would send my BG's sky
high!........

Eddie
Type 2

"Jennifer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Your friend's dietician is talking about the Diabetic Exchange Diet.

One Carbohydrate Exchange Serving = 15g of carbs.

And yes, they do suggest 3 carb exchanges at each meal.

Jennifer

Bob La Londe said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb" was

just

Quoted message said:

an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself it

was

Quoted message said:

not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially when
he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS" per
meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb that

is

Quoted message said:

really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

Bob La Londe said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb" was just
an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself it was
not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially when
he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS" per
meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb that is
really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

"Carb" is indeed sloppy or shorthand speech for "1 gram of carbohydrates."

Jim

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Quoted message said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb" was just
an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself it was
not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially when
he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS" per
meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb that is
really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

That person is simply being deliberately obtuse....no let me rephrase
that...a [censored] moron (pardon the language).
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Single malt scotch is awesome (NO it does NOT have carbs as DON'T vodka,
gin, rum, bourbon, etc generally)
Malt can be made low carb through the judicious use of yeast.
Low carb beer? Uh...yeah.
Read the books.
You can have more than eggs for breakfast.
Yes calories do count.
Ketosticks are not neccessary to lose weight.

Email: Actually my feet are big not medium.

Yes Eddie, it does most diabetics, and these dietitians just keep on
doing it, not all, but too many IMO.

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Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Eddie Type 2 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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3 carb exchanges at each meal!!!!???? That would send my BG's sky
high!........

Eddie
Type 2

"Jennifer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Your friend's dietician is talking about the Diabetic Exchange Diet.

One Carbohydrate Exchange Serving = 15g of carbs.

And yes, they do suggest 3 carb exchanges at each meal.

Jennifer

Bob La Londe said:

Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb"

was

Quoted message said:

just

Quoted message said:

an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and of itself

it

Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

not any particular unit of measure.

When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially

when

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these "CARBS"

per

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

meal.

When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
assuming three meals per day with no snacks.

Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb

that

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

really 15 grams of carbohydrate?

Bob La Londe

Bob La Londe wrote:
| Ok, I get tired of silly stuff. I always believed the term "carb"
| was just an abbreviation for the word carbohydrate, and that in and
| of itself it was not any particular unit of measure.
|
| When I count "carbs" I am just using "sloppy speak" for gram of
| carbohydrate. I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
| fifteen grams of carbohydrate. That is just insane to me, especially
| when he tells me his dietician say he should eat around 3 of these
| "CARBS" per meal.
|
| When I do the math that come out to 135 grams of carbohydrate per day
| assuming three meals per day with no snacks.
|
| Does that make any sense? Is there a unit of measure called a carb
| that is really 15 grams of carbohydrate?
|
| Bob La Londe

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Eddie Type 2 said:

3 carb exchanges at each meal!!!!???? That would send my BG's sky
high!........

Eddie
Type 2

Yes, but most dieticians are concerned with nutritious diets for normal
healty people, not diabetics or those who need to lose weight. Its just like
a friend of mine, an 80 year old lady who can have all the carbs she wants, and
just has to take insulin to compensate. I agree that it may seem high to
us, but we have different needs. Now if you had a nutritional specialist
counselling you, and assuming they know you are a diabetic, and which type,
and so forth, I'm sure they would be telling you a different story.

Irv
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"Irv Finkleman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yes, but most dieticians are concerned with nutritious diets for normal
healty people, not diabetics or those who need to lose weight. Its just

like

Quoted message said:

a friend of mine, an 80 year old lady who can have all the carbs she

wants, and

Quoted message said:

just has to take insulin to compensate. I agree that it may seem high to
us, but we have different needs. Now if you had a nutritional specialist
counselling you, and assuming they know you are a diabetic, and which

type,

Quoted message said:

and so forth, I'm sure they would be telling you a different story.

No, a dietician with a CDC will tell you, in most cases, that a diabetic
must
have 3 carb exchanges per meal (45g per meal). It is my experience that they
do not differ in their recommendations to Type I and Type II diabetics,
regardless wheither the Type II is on insulin or meds or D & E only.

BJ

BJ in Texas <[email hidden]> quoth:

Quoted message said:

No, a dietician with a CDC will tell you, in most cases, that a diabetic
must
have 3 carb exchanges per meal (45g per meal). It is my experience that they
do not differ in their recommendations to Type I and Type II diabetics,
regardless wheither the Type II is on insulin or meds or D & E only.

Yes, I gather that's in accordance with the ADA guidelines -- eat carbs
and take lots of meds. Needless to say, some of us have found treatment
methods that work better for us.

Priscilla

[email hidden] (Debbie) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate.

What the dietician is referring to is a "carbohydrate exchange" type serving in
a typical diabetic diet. 15 grams of carbohydrate = one serving in their
world. Of course, in my world, this system never worked, but they don't seem
to care, do they?

My sister-in-law has gestational diabetes, and we had the same
confusion. She said "one carb", and I (doing Atkin) strongly
disagreed. But looking through her paperwork (with suggested servings
of "one carb"😉 show that it actually was 15g of carbohydrates.

As a side note, on the list of things she can drink is milk, which is
printed in the document, and then hand written next to it is "1%".
Doesn't 1% milk have more carbs then whole milk? I'm wondering if her
doctor just thinks that "less calories is better for blood glucose
period". I don't have any information, and diabetics have a
difference (either way) for bg for 1% vs. whole milk?

Cheers,
=Blue

Blue said:

[email hidden] (Debbie) wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have had a person I know try and tell me a "CARB" is
fifteen grams of carbohydrate.

What the dietician is referring to is a "carbohydrate exchange" type
serving in
a typical diabetic diet. 15 grams of carbohydrate = one serving in
their
world. Of course, in my world, this system never worked, but they
don't seem
to care, do they?

My sister-in-law has gestational diabetes, and we had the same
confusion. She said "one carb", and I (doing Atkin) strongly
disagreed. But looking through her paperwork (with suggested servings
of "one carb"😉 show that it actually was 15g of carbohydrates.

As a side note, on the list of things she can drink is milk, which is
printed in the document, and then hand written next to it is "1%".
Doesn't 1% milk have more carbs then whole milk? I'm wondering if her
doctor just thinks that "less calories is better for blood glucose
period". I don't have any information, and diabetics have a
difference (either way) for bg for 1% vs. whole milk?

Cheers,
=Blue

I'm sure the 1% is there because of the evil saturated fat in milk.

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"BJ in Texas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

No, a dietician with a CDC will tell you, in most cases, that a diabetic
must
have 3 carb exchanges per meal (45g per meal). It is my experience that

they

Quoted message said:

do not differ in their recommendations to Type I and Type II diabetics,
regardless wheither the Type II is on insulin or meds or D & E only.

That is the info given to my diabetic mother by her Dietician - Meals
should be approx. 45 g. carbohydrates and snacks no more than 15g
carbohydrates. She is insulin dependant.

Bob in CT said:

Blue said:

As a side note, on the list of things she can drink is milk, which is
printed in the document, and then hand written next to it is "1%".
Doesn't 1% milk have more carbs then whole milk? I'm wondering if her
doctor just thinks that "less calories is better for blood glucose
period". I don't have any information, and diabetics have a
difference (either way) for bg for 1% vs. whole milk?

I'm sure the 1% is there because of the evil saturated fat in milk.

One percent milk has 0.4g to 2g more carb more per cup than whole
milk, varying from brand to brand. The ones that add milk solids
to fill out texture have more than ones that don't.

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