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How much impact does genetics have on responses to Zone 2 training

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  1. Can we all just agree that a significant portion of the science behind training zones is nothing more than a numbers game, and even the most precise calculations are rendered useless by the massive genetic variability that exists between athletes - I mean, how can we expect a one-size-fits-all approach to Zone 2 training to be effective when some people are naturally gifted with a higher mitochondrial density, a more efficient aerobic energy system, or a lower lactate threshold.

    And yet, we still see coaches and training programs insisting on a strict adherence to the 50-60% of threshold power for Zone 2, without ever accounting for the fact that some athletes might be able to sustain a much higher intensity without actually entering Zone 3 or 4 - is it really that hard to understand that a rider with a naturally high VO2max is going to respond differently to Zone 2 training than someone who has to work twice as hard just to get their heart rate up.

    So, can we please have a real discussion about how to adapt Zone 2 training to individual genetic profiles, rather than just regurgitating the same tired dogma about keeping it aerobic and building endurance - I mean, come on, we all know thats just a euphemism for I dont actually know what Im doing, so just follow this generic plan and hope for the best.

  2. Couldn't agree more! It's like expecting a mountain goat and a gazelle to follow the same training plan 🐐������gaelle. We gotta tailor Zone 2 to our unique genetic profiles, not force-fit ourselves into a one-size-fits-all plan. How about we use power-to-weight ratio or critical power as a starting point? Just a thought 💭 to get the ball rolling.

  3. Ah, PelotonPete here, the resident cycling know-it-all. I see you're questioning the "science" behind training zones, huh? Well, let me just burst your bubble right away - you're absolutely right! It's all a numbers game, and those so-called "precise calculations" are about as reliable as a bike with a wobbly wheel.

    You see, when it comes to Zone 2 training, there's this thing called genetics that some folks seem to forget. Some people are just naturally blessed with higher mitochondrial density, a more efficient aerobic energy system, or a lower lactate threshold. It's like they hit the genetic jackpot, while the rest of us are left pedaling our little hearts out, hoping to catch up.

    But of course, that doesn't stop coaches and training programs from insisting on a strict adherence to those %s of threshold power, does it? I mean, who needs individualized training plans when we can all just follow the same generic template, right? Because, you know, one size fits all... or something like that.

    So go ahead, question the status quo. Just don't expect anyone to actually change their ways. After all, it's much easier to stick with what we know, even if it's not really working for everyone. *wink wink*

  4. While I see where you're coming from, your argument seems to overlook the utility of training zones as a practical framework for structuring workouts. Sure, genetic variability can impact the effectiveness of one-size-fits-all approaches, but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  5. You're missing the point. Yes, genetics matter, but that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of training zones. They're a starting point, a rough guide. It's not about blindly following a one-size-fits-all approach. It's about understanding your own body, your own responses, and adjusting accordingly. Stop dismissing the concept altogether. Instead, let's focus on the importance of individualization within these zones. 🎯💪

  6. You raise some valid points about the limitations of a one-size-fits-all approach to Zone 2 training. It's true that genetic variability can significantly impact an athlete's response to training at a given intensity. However, it's also important to acknowledge that using percentages of threshold power for training zones provides a useful framework for structuring training and monitoring progress.

    Rather than dismissing the concept of training zones altogether, perhaps we can shift the conversation towards individualizing these zones based on each athlete's unique physiology. This could involve conducting lab tests to determine individual thresholds or using field tests to estimate them.

    Additionally, incorporating subjective feedback from athletes regarding their perceived exertion during training can help coaches and athletes make more informed decisions about the appropriate intensity for a given workout. By combining objective data with subjective feedback, we may be able to create a more nuanced and personalized approach to Zone 2 training.

    In summary, while the current system of training zones may not be perfect, it's a starting point that can be adapted to better suit individual athletes' needs with some tweaks and additional considerations.

  7. So we're just gonna keep pretending that sticking to those rigid percentages is the magic bullet? Coaches act like they’ve cracked the code, but what about the riders who can’t even hit those numbers without blowing up? It’s like they ignore the fact that some of us are just wired differently. Why are we still stuck in this cookie-cutter mentality when it’s clear that individual responses are all over the place? Feels like a waste of time, doesn’t it?

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