How many virtual wins

Rik Van Diesel schreef:

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So if the 99 tour is now virtually out what is the new total.

Lance and Lemond tied at 6?

RVD

maybe in the near future Jan Ullrich will be the virtual record holder
🙂

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Rik Van Diesel schreef:

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So if the 99 tour is now virtually out what is the new total.

Lance and Lemond tied at 6?

RVD

maybe in the near future Jan Ullrich will be the virtual record holder

If Lafferty had his way Lance would have 7 virtual losses. But even then he
wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Lafferty who has had the real thing.

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Rik Van Diesel schreef:

Quoted message said:

So if the 99 tour is now virtually out what is the new total.

Lance and Lemond tied at 6?

Quoted message said:

maybe in the near future Jan Ullrich will be the virtual record holder
🙂

Dumbasses,

Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.

In other news, Poulidor said "This is ridiculous. Why not
retroactively test all the back to 1903?" (quoted on velonews.com)
Of course, he's just covering his own back. He's worried that
if they test his samples from the 1960's, someone else will
take over as virtual "Eternal Second."

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Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.

And the funny thing is that EPO probably wasn't a factor since the causeway
crash was what wrecked Zulle's hopes...

Actually read these two again...after 6 years, it's all in there
http://www.frankieandreu.com/diaries/diary99a.html
http://www.frankieandreu.com/diaries/diary99b.html

"Kevin explained to me that on the Tourmalet, while riding tempo, Virenque
came up to him and asked him what his problem was. Kevin told him he didn't
have a problem what was his problem. Virenque looked at Kevin and asked him if
he was going "au bloc." That means all out, or very hard. Kevin looked at
Virenque and told him "no" are you going "au bloc?" As he said that he clicked
up a few gears and rode away. It was funny and Virenque was [censored]."

Then go google groups for fdreu

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Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.
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I don't think he's forgetten by real cycling fans,
the 95 stage in the tour where he went on that
long breakaway and put Indurain under pressure -
he got 2nd that year. Vuelta wins, some Giro stages, World
TT champ, Tour of Switzerland, Tour prologue, road stage of
Paris-Nice and got up there in a
few classics too, the guy was a seriously classy rider.

in 481436 20050824 081615 said:

Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.
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I don't think he's forgetten by real cycling fans,
the 95 stage in the tour where he went on that
long breakaway and put Indurain under pressure -
he got 2nd that year. Vuelta wins, some Giro stages, World
TT champ, Tour of Switzerland, Tour prologue, road stage of
Paris-Nice and got up there in a
few classics too, the guy was a seriously classy rider.

And a pleasant and modest personality to go with it.

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In other news, Poulidor said "This is ridiculous. Why not
retroactively test all the back to 1903?" (quoted on velonews.com)
Of course, he's just covering his own back. He's worried that
if they test his samples from the 1960's, someone else will
take over as virtual "Eternal Second."

Hey, be kind. After all, he would hold some ephemeral virtual Tour
wins between the time Merckx was tested and he was tested.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Bob Martin said:

in 481436 20050824 081615 said:

Quoted message said:

Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.

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I don't think he's forgetten by real cycling fans,
the 95 stage in the tour where he went on that
long breakaway and put Indurain under pressure -
he got 2nd that year. Vuelta wins, some Giro stages, World
TT champ, Tour of Switzerland, Tour prologue, road stage of
Paris-Nice and got up there in a
few classics too, the guy was a seriously classy rider.

And a pleasant and modest personality to go with it.

And his mother is Dutch.

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Rik Van Diesel schreef:

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So if the 99 tour is now virtually out what is the new total.

Lance and Lemond tied at 6?

Quoted message said:

maybe in the near future Jan Ullrich will be the virtual record holder
🙂

Dumbasses,

Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999. Not Ullrich.
Poor guy, Zulle retired just a couple of months ago and he's
already forgotten.

In other news, Poulidor said "This is ridiculous. Why not
retroactively test all the back to 1903?" (quoted on velonews.com)
Of course, he's just covering his own back. He's worried that
if they test his samples from the 1960's, someone else will
take over as virtual "Eternal Second."

And Eddy says he trusts Armstrong is telling the truth. Of course Eddy is
the guy who introduced Armstrong to Ferrari.

mike said:

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>Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999.

Bob Martin said:

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And a pleasant and modest personality to go with it.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

And his mother is Dutch.

Is that an insult ?

in 481467 20050824 111924 Donald Munro said:

mike said:

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>>Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999.

Bob Martin said:

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And a pleasant and modest personality to go with it.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

And his mother is Dutch.

Is that an insult ?

;-)

I was wondering how to ask that same question without insulting Ewoud!
(note of explanation to Ewoud : if a Brit finds something hard to believe he says
"... then I'm a Dutchman"😉.

Bob Martin schreef:

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in 481467 20050824 111924 Donald Munro said:

mike said:

>>>Alex Zulle is now the virtual Tour winner of 1999.

Bob Martin said:

> And a pleasant and modest personality to go with it.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

And his mother is Dutch.

Is that an insult ?

;-)

I was wondering how to ask that same question without insulting Ewoud!

I always liked Zulle for his fluent and beautiful Dutch. Even his German sounded
rather Dutch.

Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

Bob Martin schreef:

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Donald Munro said:

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> And his mother is Dutch.

Is that an insult ?

I was wondering how to ask that same question without insulting Ewoud!

I always liked Zulle for his fluent and beautiful Dutch. Even his German sounded
rather Dutch.

Thanks guys. What he said.

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Rik Van Diesel schreef:

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So if the 99 tour is now virtually out what is the new total.

Lance and Lemond tied at 6?

RVD

maybe in the near future Jan Ullrich will be the virtual record holder

If Lafferty had his way Lance would have 7 virtual losses. But even then he
wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Lafferty who has had the real thing.

The 'translation' by one of the engines of remarks by Jean-Francois Bernard
is amusing:

"They do not earn a Tour de France only by taking drugs. As they say, they
never ameliorate a donkey. Armstrong was a horse of running at first. He
had dispositions. "

jj

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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> And his mother is Dutch.

Donald Munro said:

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Is that an insult ?

Bob Martin said:

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;-)
I was wondering how to ask that same question without insulting Ewoud!

Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

I always liked Zulle for his fluent and beautiful Dutch. Even his German sounded
rather Dutch.

As long as he didn't sing, at least according to:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14932-1658364,00.html