How many miles per cassette?

"Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How many
miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost new, well
has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the first chain
change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the chain rings look
ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn and will probably
skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is to change a cassette
vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before but never a cassette.

I don't have a clue about a freewheel, but I installed a cassette when I
got new wheels. Piece of cake.
I think I needed a special tool, though.

I've heard that if you replaces chains regularly, you'll get greater life
out of the cogs.

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette?
The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far

Maybe... If you take good care of your chain, it should last for more
miles than that... but there is a lot of variation.

New chains are 1/2 inch per link. Measure your old one over 24 links,
and if it is less than 1/16th inch over (12-1/16th inches), your
cassette should be fine. If it is 1/8th over, then you probably also
have some cogs worn too much for a new chain.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

Quoted message said:

How tough is is
to change a cassette vs a freewheel?

Cassettes are easy. A chain whip and the proper tool for the lockring,
and they come right off.

At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
but never a cassette.

Ken
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having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
both, lockring loosens.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
but never a cassette.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
both, lockring loosens.

My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
Shimano? Campy?

Joseph

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
but never a cassette.

If you usually ride on just one or two of the rear sprockets, then
they'll almost certainly have some wear but might not be gone yet.
You'll find out soon enough.

IMO, cassettes are a lot less hassle to change than freewheels.
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Zog The Undeniable said:

At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

That's assuming both sides are used.

I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

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Sorry, couldn't resist.

Neither could I.
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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
but never a cassette.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
both, lockring loosens.

My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
Shimano? Campy?

Joseph

About 6.

Lou
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Werehatrack said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

That's assuming both sides are used.

I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

Quoted message said:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Neither could I.

Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

Ken
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having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is
is to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels
before but never a cassette.

If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/ need a
new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway, however 🙂 )

Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.

Sorni said:

Ken C. M. said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is
is to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels
before but never a cassette.

If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/ need a
new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway, however 🙂 )

Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.

Well it's a cross between the two it's one of those dis-comfort hybrids.

Ken
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having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Ken C. M. said:

Sorni wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/
need a new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway,
however 🙂 ) Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.

Quoted message said:

Well it's a cross between the two it's one of those dis-comfort
hybrids.

Ah. Well, install the new chain and see how it goes.

Bill "incredibly gifted for stating the obvious" S.

Ken C. M. said:

Werehatrack said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

That's assuming both sides are used.

I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

Quoted message said:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Neither could I.

Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

Halftracks are bad enough, but the drag from an 8-track drivetrain
would be more than I want to think about. With a 45, it's not the
drag but the weight which is the problem, although you have to admire
the inherent stopping power it provides.
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Ken C. M. said:

Werehatrack said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

That's assuming both sides are used.

I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

Quoted message said:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Neither could I.

Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

Let's see...an 8-track was typically 80 minutes, so that would be
26.67 miles, and for a 45 it would depend upon how many dogs per mile
were encountered and how many spare clips you brought along.
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Quoted message said:

My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
Shimano? Campy?

Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
off.

Ron Ruff said:

Quoted message said:

My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
Shimano? Campy?

Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
off.

So if the handle on the chainwhip bends...?

Quoted message said:

Ron Ruff said:

Quoted message said:

My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
Shimano? Campy?

Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
off.

So if the handle on the chainwhip bends...?

You need a better chainwhip. Or you need to stop wearing earplugs
when you work, so that you can hear the safeword.
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Werehatrack said:

Quoted message said:

Ron Ruff said:

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> My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
> years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
> Shimano? Campy?

Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
off.

So if the handle on the chainwhip bends...?

You need a better chainwhip. Or you need to stop wearing earplugs
when you work, so that you can hear the safeword.
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Safeword? What's that? When the wrench says "uncle"?

Actually I was just kidding. My chainwhip is bent but that is from
using it as a derailleur hanger "persuasion" tool.

I do about 5 clicks. Does that sound about right?

Joseph

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Quoted message said:

Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How many
miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost new, well
has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the first chain
change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the chain rings look
ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn and will probably
skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is to change a cassette
vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before but never a cassette.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

I cycle about 8000 kms ( 5000 miles) every year. Nothing extreme -- but a
long cycle camping tour every year. I change the cassette, chain and, if
necessary, the complete chainset about 3 weeks before I set out on a two
month tour. That means I have a new complete drive system and enough time
to "run it in" before I leave on a heavily loaded tour.
I have always found that the cassette and chain are ready for renewal at
that time and I get the benefit of having my velo "up to spec" at the
beginning of its hardest work period of the year. For the rest of the year I
am averaging about 160 kms a week with only the occasional w/e under a
reasonable camping load.

Most of my riding is on road, with a little on well surfaced tracks, but no
serious off road riding. I am also on new tyres when I set off and generally
they may last me the year as well. Up to and including last year I was using
Schwalbe Kevlar "Hurricane" tyres but renewed just before Christmas with
Schwalbe Marathon Plus. I then have my velo stolen 2 days later!
I generally have a couple of part worn tyres in reserve. I do not carry a
spare tyre with me on my long tour and so far have had no problems. I always
carry 3 spare inner tubes, so that I can replace punctured tubes and repair
when convenient, comfortable and dry! Only had to buy one new tyre on my
long tours --- but now that I've said that I expect that it will all go
"ape-[censored]" on this years magnum opus!
--
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom.