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  1. Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
    but never a cassette.

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

  2. "Ken C. M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How many
    miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost new, well
    has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the first chain
    change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the chain rings look
    ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn and will probably
    skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is to change a cassette
    vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before but never a cassette.

    I don't have a clue about a freewheel, but I installed a cassette when I
    got new wheels. Piece of cake.
    I think I needed a special tool, though.

    I've heard that if you replaces chains regularly, you'll get greater life
    out of the cogs.

  3. Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette?
    The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far

    Maybe... If you take good care of your chain, it should last for more
    miles than that... but there is a lot of variation.

    New chains are 1/2 inch per link. Measure your old one over 24 links,
    and if it is less than 1/16th inch over (12-1/16th inches), your
    cassette should be fine. If it is 1/8th over, then you probably also
    have some cogs worn too much for a new chain.

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

    Quoted message said:

    How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel?

    Cassettes are easy. A chain whip and the proper tool for the lockring,
    and they come right off.

  4. At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

  5. Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
    but never a cassette.

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

    Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
    chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
    the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
    month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

    Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
    wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
    to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
    big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
    both, lockring loosens.

  6. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
    but never a cassette.

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

    Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
    chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
    the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
    month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

    Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
    wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
    to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
    big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
    both, lockring loosens.

    My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
    years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
    Shimano? Campy?

    Joseph

  7. One of my bike's cassette has bent and chipped teeth and is as smooth as I reckon my bottom would have been 25 years ago. When you fit a new chain it slips like crazy but wears in after 150 miles or so. I can never be bothered lookign for the tool to change it!

    I think what is more likly to fail is the freewheel machanism it sits on. That cassette and freewheel has had some abuse over the time it has been fitted. Togther they have been one half of the tug of war which managed to snap, so far, two of my chains! I'm not the type to go easy on it just because it happens to be selecting a new gear either.

    Dont get me wrong the gear change is horrendous and I'm always fidling with the fine adjustment on the frame.

  8. Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
    but never a cassette.

    If you usually ride on just one or two of the rear sprockets, then
    they'll almost certainly have some wear but might not be gone yet.
    You'll find out soon enough.

    IMO, cassettes are a lot less hassle to change than freewheels.
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  9. Zog The Undeniable said:

    At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

    That's assuming both sides are used.

    I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
    to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Neither could I.
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  10. Quoted message said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is is
    to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels before
    but never a cassette.

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

    Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
    chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
    the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
    month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

    Changing cogset-chain whip and proper tool for the cogset lockring, big
    wrench. With the wheel leaning against your legs, cogset out, chainwhip
    to the left, chain part on the top of the cogset, tool into lockring,
    big wrench to the right side, opposite the chainwhip, push down on
    both, lockring loosens.

    My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
    years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
    Shimano? Campy?

    Joseph

    About 6.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  11. Werehatrack said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:

    At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

    That's assuming both sides are used.

    I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
    to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Neither could I.


    Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

  12. Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is
    is to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels
    before but never a cassette.

    If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
    cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/ need a
    new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway, however 🙂 )

    Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.

  13. Sorni said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    Okay while I am waiting for the first new chain from performance. How
    many miles should I expect to get from a cassette? The bike is almost
    new, well has about 3000 miles on it, mixed riding, and this is the
    first chain change, yeah I know I probably let it go to far, but the
    chain rings look ok, but I have a feeling that the cassette is to worn
    and will probably skip when the new chain is installed. How tough is
    is to change a cassette vs a freewheel? I have changed freewheels
    before but never a cassette.

    If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
    cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/ need a
    new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway, however 🙂 )

    Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.


    Well it's a cross between the two it's one of those dis-comfort hybrids.

    Ken
    --
    You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
    having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

    Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

  14. Ken C. M. said:

    Sorni wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If it were a mountain bike, then you'd almost definitely need a new
    cassette. Assuming it's a road bike, you'll almost definitely /not/
    need a new cassette. (Buy a lockring tool and chainwhip anyway,
    however 🙂 ) Bill "road stuff lasts lots longer than mt. stuff" S.

    Quoted message said:

    Well it's a cross between the two it's one of those dis-comfort
    hybrids.

    Ah. Well, install the new chain and see how it goes.

    Bill "incredibly gifted for stating the obvious" S.

  15. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:


    Tough to say. If you keep your chain clean and didn't do a lot of cross
    chaining, 3000 miles won't cook a cogset. I have about 15,000 miles on
    the inner cogs of a DA freewheel...but I change my chain every
    month-For $6-why not? easier than cleaning it.

    What do you do with your old chains? I've got one rusting to bury
    under the blueberry bushes (they need iron), but I don't know what to
    do with all the others I have sitting around.

    Pat

    Email address works as is.

  16. Ken C. M. said:
    Werehatrack said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:

    At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

    That's assuming both sides are used.

    I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
    to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Neither could I.


    Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

    Halftracks are bad enough, but the drag from an 8-track drivetrain
    would be more than I want to think about. With a 45, it's not the
    drag but the weight which is the problem, although you have to admire
    the inherent stopping power it provides.
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  17. Ken C. M. said:
    Werehatrack said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:

    At a road speed of 20 mph, 20 miles for a C60 and 30 miles for a C90.

    That's assuming both sides are used.

    I will note that IME, C120 tends to jam and/or tangle when subjected
    to vibration; I don't recommend them for use in a Walkman.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Neither could I.


    Okay well how about miles per 8-track? Or 45?

    Let's see...an 8-track was typically 80 minutes, so that would be
    26.67 miles, and for a 45 it would depend upon how many dogs per mile
    were encountered and how many spare clips you brought along.
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  18. Quoted message said:

    My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
    years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
    Shimano? Campy?

    Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
    off.

  19. Ron Ruff said:
    Quoted message said:

    My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
    years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
    Shimano? Campy?

    Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
    off.

    So if the handle on the chainwhip bends...?

  20. Quoted message said:


    Ron Ruff said:
    Quoted message said:

    My torque-wrench is buried someplace in the garage and has been MIA for
    years. How many clicks should the lockring make for proper tightness?
    Shimano? Campy?

    Tight enough to be secure... but not so tight that it's a pain to get
    off.

    So if the handle on the chainwhip bends...?

    You need a better chainwhip. Or you need to stop wearing earplugs
    when you work, so that you can hear the safeword.
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