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  1. I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

  2. half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    I don't think 24, 27 or even 30 gears are ridiculous. They provide a wide
    range of closely spaced gears to make pedalling more
    pleasant--particularly useful for those who cycle in hilly areas and are
    fussy about caddence. However, I would like to see more bikes with fewer
    gears made available for those who don't want them.

    Quoted message said:

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    You don't need a bike at all.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    That's true and you can use a fixed gear bike on the road as well if you
    like, but so what?

    ~PB

  3. half_pint said:

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Only kids use that type of 'oneupmanship', I've never heard any adult
    cyclists do that.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    We don't all have legs the size of tree trunks. Some of us actually need to
    start off on a low gear with high cadence, so that our knees still work when
    we're older.

    --

    Burning_Ranger

    To email: [email hidden]

  4. half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    If anything, there's a reverse oneupmanship at play among the cycling
    cogniscenti. You're nobody if you've got more than a single and
    positively laughable if you're not on a fixer.

    I've got 8. And they're in a can.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    Yes but sterile racing conditions are just a tad different from your
    average British commute. Tracks don't have hills or stop-start traffic
    lights etc.

  5. In message <[email hidden]>, Pete Biggs
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.



    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    That's true and you can use a fixed gear bike on the road as well if you
    like, but so what?

    Indeed, of course you don't *need* any gears. I find varying amounts of
    multiple gears useful however on different bikes. (which of cours eI
    don't need either

    There was an interesting little snippet in the latest CTC rag about the
    chap who invented the deraillieur , of course the idea of multiple gears
    was poo -pooed by many other cyclists :-)
    --
    Chris French, Leeds

  6. chris French said:

    Indeed, of course you don't *need* any gears.

    One is helpful as a bare minimum, unless you like walking.

    --
    Mark.
    http://tranchant.plus.com/

  7. half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    If you mount a 30 speed system on a Rohloff 14 speed hub and a mountain
    drive BB you can have 840 gears but I bet you when you come to that hill
    you still won't have the right one available ;-)

    Tony

  8. Mark Tranchant said:
    chris French said:

    Indeed, of course you don't *need* any gears.

    One is helpful as a bare minimum, unless you like walking.

    That's two then, the single speed and the 24" gear.

    Tony

  9. half_pint [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Define ridiculous. To my mind the impossibly low single gear of a BMX is
    ridiculous, but my three bikes have 1, 8 (Soon to be 16) and 27 gears
    respectively. The choice of gear range influences what I use them for.

    Quoted message said:

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Only to those who don't understand gears.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    "A lot of"? With the exception of the BHPC meets, I suspect that you'll
    never see a geared & freewheel equipped bike on a track.

    Jon

  10. Jon Senior said:

    half_pint [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Define ridiculous. To my mind the impossibly low single gear of a BMX is
    ridiculous, but my three bikes have 1, 8 (Soon to be 16) and 27 gears
    respectively. The choice of gear range influences what I use them for.

    Quoted message said:

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Only to those who don't understand gears.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    "A lot of"? With the exception of the BHPC meets, I suspect that you'll
    never see a geared & freewheel equipped bike on a track.

    Jon

    Careful, I think they have fun races on grass tracks that allow any
    bike. Talking of tracks Jon ...... Manchester is very busy ATM, I have
    heard that weekends are fully booked until the end of January

  11. Geraint Jones said:
    Pete Biggs said:

    You don't need a bike at all.

    I am tempted to take exception to the publication of such a blatant untruth.

    You don't need *a* bike, you need loads of bikes..

    ...d

  12. half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    Yes, thank you. Except on Cosimo, where I could probably get away without
    the inner chainring.

    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    And when did you last see a velodrome with a hill in it?

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
    Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
    floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

  13. Geraint Jones said:

    I am tempted to take exception to the publication of such a blatant untruth.

    Various owners of trikes who don't run bikes may well disagree...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  14. Not Responding said:


    half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    If anything, there's a reverse oneupmanship at play among the cycling
    cogniscenti. You're nobody if you've got more than a single and
    positively laughable if you're not on a fixer.

    I win both ways :-)

    1 on the fixie
    81 on the Trice

    :-p

    John B

  15. Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : If you mount a 30 speed system on a Rohloff 14 speed hub and a mountain
    : drive BB you can have 840 gears but I bet you when you come to that hill
    : you still won't have the right one available ;-)

    s/still won't have right one available/will fall off while trying to choose
    a gear from the 840 gears and 4 levers/

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness

  16. Jon Senior said:


    half_pint [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Also don't a lot of track racing bikes only have one gear?

    "A lot of"? With the exception of the BHPC meets, I suspect that you'll
    never see a geared & freewheel equipped bike on a track.

    Nearly all events held on Portsmouth Track allow riders to use road bikes.

    John B

  17. Arthur Clune said:

    s/still won't have right one available/will fall off while trying to choose
    a gear from the 840 gears and 4 levers/

    Point of order, m'lud, two levers, one twist grip and a heel button...
    But you may have a point about the falling off while getting horribly
    muddled! ;-)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  18. JohnB [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Nearly all events held on Portsmouth Track allow riders to use road bikes.

    OK. I figured that most tracks banned road-going (Non-fixed, brake
    equipped) vehicles and that most track riders wouldn't dream of riding
    non-fixed on a track.

    Jon

  19. JohnB said:
    Not Responding said:
    half_pint said:

    I see bikes with ridiculous amounts of gears.

    Yes it sounds great in "oneupmanship" to say "well actually I have
    35 gears :OP " but do you really need them.

    If anything, there's a reverse oneupmanship at play among the cycling
    cogniscenti. You're nobody if you've got more than a single and
    positively laughable if you're not on a fixer.

    I win both ways :-)

    1 on the fixie
    81 on the Trice

    :-p

    John B

    If you converted the Trice to fixed, would it then be a Trixie? :-)

    (sorry, brain is off on tangents today - suspect work-avoidance tactic
    being employed by it)

    --

    Velvet

  20. Mark Tranchant said:
    chris French said:

    Indeed, of course you don't *need* any gears.

    One is helpful as a bare minimum, unless you like walking.


    How many gears does an Ordinary have?

    --
    Joe * If I cannot be free I'll be cheap

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