How It Plays In Peoria

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:RiUKc.4727$f4.2927
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Anyone else had any feedback from non-cycling friends and/or acquaintances?

Brian,

Since you've already made up your mind... do you *really* care what the
public at large thinks? Or is this just another lame attempt of yours to step
up onto the soap box and bash LA for alledged doping? You're rhetoric is
really becoming quite tired.

Here's a new topic of discourse for your: bicycle racing. Try it, you might
like it. Its really a lot more interesting than he said/she said doping
accusations/denials.

- Boyd S.

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:RiUKc.4727$f4.2927
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Anyone else had any feedback from non-cycling friends and/or

acquaintances?

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Brian,

Since you've already made up your mind... do you *really* care what the
public at large thinks? Or is this just another lame attempt of yours to

step

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up onto the soap box and bash LA for alledged doping? You're rhetoric is
really becoming quite tired.

Here's a new topic of discourse for your: bicycle racing. Try it, you

might

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like it. Its really a lot more interesting than he said/she said doping
accusations/denials.

- Boyd S.

BECOMING tired??!!! Geez ... this became so old and stale so long ago. I
wonder if Brian ever goes back and reads what he's written. These people
who don't follow the sport are ready to condemn Lance based on the accounts
of two women who weren't on the show, who allegedly said to Walsh or
somebody who's clearly out to make a buck that Lance should speak for
himself. Dang ... there's some solid stuff there.

I thought Lemond came off as a real weasely gasbag. Lance "threatened him"
by saying "I could find 10 people to say you were a doper." That's not a
threat. That's an observation on the unfortunatel state of society ... that
there are people out there who will say anything if it will get them their
15 minutes of fame ... or for a whole lot less.

Oh how I wish all the Laffertys of the world would just give it a complete
rest until something solid comes up ... if it ever does.

Bob C.

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I thought Lemond came off as a real weasely gasbag. Lance "threatened
him" by saying "I could find 10 people to say you were a doper."
That's not a threat. That's an observation on the unfortunatel state
of society ... that there are people out there who will say anything
if it will get them their 15 minutes of fame ... or for a whole lot
less.

Actually, wasn't Lance just saying the he could do to LeMond (accuse him
without evidence) the same thing LeMond was doing to Lance (accusing
without evidence).

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These people
who don't follow the sport are ready to condemn Lance based on the

accounts

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of two women who weren't on the show, who allegedly said to Walsh or
somebody who's clearly out to make a buck that Lance should speak for
himself. Dang ... there's some solid stuff there.

Bob C.

What does being a cyclist or NOT have to do with someone's capacity to
evaluate information and form reasonable opinions or inferences? What does
whether these two women were on the show or NOT have to do with what they
witnessed? And it does seem to be accepted that they WERE in the room when
the question was asked or why else would they tell Walsh that Lance should
speak for himself. It doesn't strike you as at all strange that one or the
other wouldn't recount a simple but VERY weighted "NO" if that was the case?
And one of these women is allegedly the wife of a pro cyclist at the time.
You don't think she'd ever, in one way or another, dealt with the "doping "
question? What motivation do they have to NOT repeat Armstrong's answer,
at least in regards to this incident, if he did say NO? Why wouldn't they
be pleased to corroborate Armstrong's insistence that he never doped? They
obviously thought enough of the guy to be alongside him in a hospital room
during a trying time. That's enough to put them in the pro-Lance camp for
me. And yet...they can't come to his defense (again) in the simple matter
of a one-word answer? Naaaaah!

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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This morning, in two separate instances, professional acquaintances of mine
who know that I follow bike racing (they don't except for the general press

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about Postal quiet, that he considered that a damning admission of
culpability by Armstrong.

I found it interesting that neither of them mentioned Lemond at all.
Anyone else had any feedback from non-cycling friends and/or acquaintances?

Informed people are more reliable. I think they have a better handle
on things. Ask some pro friends of your who have at least 2-3 years of
cycling lore behind them (people who follow other Euro bike races
other than the Tour).

What do they think?

Of the ones I know I cannot think of one who thinks Lance used any
illegal performance-enhancing substances. Honest Brian!

Hinault even thinks LeMond is a [censored] for his recent unfounded
allegations against Lance.

Since when do you live close to the flyover Peoria, Ill-a-Noize
anyway?

-Ken

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone else had any feedback from non-cycling friends and/or

acquaintances?

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I got a 180 degree different take on it:

The feedback I got was that people believe Lance is tested regularly.
Therefore, Lemond looks jealous and people feel his actions are beneath his
status as a legend. The rest of the cast appears as opportunists.

I was surprised at how many people viewed Lemond's 3 Tour wins as an
achievement equal to or greater than Lance going for 6. Almost like the
older brother who gets the job out of high school so that the younger
brother can go to college.

None of these people are cyclists, but read the sports pages, magazines and
watch ESPN.

It is a pretty safe bet we didn't talk to the same people!

How It Plays In Peoria - who really cares about Peoria or the non
cycling fan? Certainly not Lance - nor myself. Can we just move on
from the allegations. I guess Basso is on drugs too - because he was
able to stay on Armstrong's wheel. He must be on drugs, i heard the
shoe shine guy on the corner tell me!