how israel will betray the US

Andersdenkender said:

http://judicial-inc.biz/Sunburn_Missile.htm

Is there any doubt that Islamic hostility is directly related to our
association with Israel?

No, Muslims in general and their dog-like terrorist tactics.

The God of Abraham is Satan?

This isn't what I remember from the church I went to as a kid, but
then, I haven't been to church in 40 years, so maybe my memory is
going.

Kermit

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The God of Abraham is Satan?

This isn't what I remember from the church I went to as a kid, but
then, I haven't been to church in 40 years, so maybe my memory is
going.

Kermit

If you are that old, you may find out for certain soon.

ATP* said:

Pretty weak argument, John.

Wow, what a surprise!

--

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

http://globalresearch.ca/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

Peter Webb said:

There are two ways that 9/11 alterred my perceptions of Palestine.

Firstly, in propotion of population, (6 million vs 280 million) Israel has
suffered 9/11 level casulaties - spread through the year - every year for
many years now.

The Palestinians have suffered far, far worse. And of
course, it is Israel that is the aggressor and is in
violation of international law and numerous U.N. violations.
If Israel would end its illegal occupation, terror attacks,
assassinations, home demolitions, destruction of crops, road
blocks, check points, water restrictions, and lend theft,
of course the Palestinians would stop fighting back. As
an added bonus, Israel could get off U.S. welfare.

--

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

"Hank" babbled some more [censored]

Change your e-mail addy again Hankey??

Back onto the bozo bin for you.

Lee Michaels said:

"Hank" babbled some more [censored]

Change your e-mail addy again Hankey??

Back onto the bozo bin for you.

Ah, I see. He added quotation marks around the fake username. He must
have been starved for attention. Poor little kook.
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

ATP* said:

It's funny how you equate any criticism of our Israeli policy with hatred
for Israel, but usually have nothing to say when others make extremely
hateful statements directed toward Arabs or Muslims in general, even
suggesting genocide.

I think Larry is just trolling.

That said, I don't think any of the major faiths have as much built-in
intolerance of other faiths as does Islam. And I'm talking about
intolerance written right into the Q'uran.
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

ATP* said:

It's funny how you equate any criticism of our Israeli policy with
hatred for Israel, but usually have nothing to say when others make
extremely hateful statements directed toward Arabs or Muslims in
general, even suggesting genocide.

I think Larry is just trolling.

Well, yes. But that is how I feel about the issue. I'm frustrated that we
are so afraid to call Islam what it is. Basically, a religion of
intolerance and hatred. Period. And that is evidenced by the quantity of
terrorist activity in all parts of the World. The point you make below is
right on the money John. So why can't we in the West point that out? Why
do we need to be so PC about the issue? I don't expect an answer from you,
because we both know the answer. I'm just venting...

Regarding Israel and Palestine, let's not forget that the reason Israel has
the occupied territory is because the Arabs attacked *them*. And just how
many Israeli suicide bombers have blown up innocent civilians in Palestine?
The restraint of Israel is astounding given the fact that time and time
again, the Palestinians blow up Israeli women and children. I am not
Jewish, but it really doesn't take a boatload of common sense to see that
the Palestinians are the pieces of [censored] in this age old confrontation.

Quoted message said:

That said, I don't think any of the major faiths have as much built-in
intolerance of other faiths as does Islam. And I'm talking about
intolerance written right into the Q'uran.

And we never hear this because everybody is afraid of offending. So, I'm
willing to offend to get the point across.
--
-Larry

JMW said:

Lee Michaels said:

"Hank" babbled some more [censored]

Change your e-mail addy again Hankey??

Back onto the bozo bin for you.

Ah, I see. He added quotation marks around the fake username.

No, I didn't. You're lying and being paranoid
and stupid again, wease. Hey, maybe you should
contact Cornell and tell them about these imaginary
quotes and how much they trouble you.
Whatta simple minded kook... <chuckle>

--

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf [censored]

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

JMW said:

This is the point. You say the Palestinians "had absolutely nothing
to do with 9/11." Untrue. And keep in mind, we do remember the
images of Palestinian youths dancing in the streets after 9/11.

You're "thinking" of Israelis, who were filming the burning
towers from Jersey while celebrating.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

--

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf [censored]

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

JMW said:

"ATP*" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's funny how you equate any criticism of our Israeli policy with hatred
for Israel, but usually have nothing to say when others make extremely
hateful statements directed toward Arabs or Muslims in general, even
suggesting genocide.

Quoted message said:

I think

Not really.

Quoted message said:

Larry is just trolling.

No. He, like you, is revealing his hate, ignorance,
and his support for bu$h's war crimes, torture, and
terrorism..

--

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf [censored]

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

Larry Hodges said:

I'm frustrated

That's caused by your extreme ignorance and hatred.

Quoted message said:

that we are so afraid to call Islam what it is. Basically,
a religion of intolerance and hatred. Period.

Christianity has a far more violent history. But of
course, you're much ignorant and disingenuous to
acknowledge that.

Quoted message said:

Regarding Israel and Palestine, let's not forget that the
reason Israel has the occupied territory is because the Arabs
attacked *them*.

Israel occupies Palestinian land because they are stealing
it. And of course, the occupation is a blatant violation of
international law and numerous United Nations Resolutions.

--

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf [censored]

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

Hank said:

Bible Atrocities Compiled by Donald Morgan

[500 odd lines deleted]

Donald missed out the Lord's whopping overreaction towards
those who pee up walls -- a trifling impropriety in my book,
undeserving of such severity:

'And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he
sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Ba'asha: he
left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his
kinsfolk, nor of his friends.'

1 Kings 16:11.

I cannot even begin to imagine His rage at the pissing
matches of MFW.

--
Jock

Hank 'bu$h'@war.crimes said:

Bible Atrocities Compiled by Donald Morgan

<snip>

You might want to read The Genesis of Justice: Ten Stories of Biblical
Injustice that Led to the Ten Commandments and Modern Morality and Law
by Alan M. Dershowitz.

In article <[email hidden]>, Hank <"bu$h"@war.crimes>

Quoted message said:

Larry Hodges said:

Christian-based nation.

Bible Atrocities Compiled by Donald Morgan

(Note: In the Bible, words having to do with killing significantly
outnumber words having to do with love.)

And your point is????

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

the point is go peddle your steroids freakoid.
"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Hank <"bu$h"@war.crimes>

Quoted message said:

Larry Hodges said:

Christian-based nation.

Bible Atrocities Compiled by Donald Morgan

(Note: In the Bible, words having to do with killing significantly
outnumber words having to do with love.)

And your point is????

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Will Brink said:

Hank <"bu$h"@war.crimes> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Larry Hodges wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Christian-based nation.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bible Atrocities Compiled by Donald Morgan

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(Note: In the Bible, words having to do with killing significantly
outnumber words having to do with love.)

Quoted message said:

And your point is????

Very clear.

--

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf [censored]

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)

http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/

George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.

"I think this is the worst government the US has ever
had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
- George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...