How I Almost Lost My iPod

why not just make several long playlists and get a waist
belt....and position the ipod at your back instead of at
your waist...it would never come loose from a waist
belt...having your iPod on your handle bar shouldn't be
necessary as you're not going ot be riding along while
hunting for songs are you?

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K-Man wrote:
:: A cautionary tale for those of you who have and iPod
:: or are thinking about buying one and using it with
:: your bike.
::
:: Back when I first got my iPod a couple of years ago, I
:: purchased a third party case with a belt clip. When I got
:: my bike last Christmas, I started looking for iPod mounts
:: for bikes, and found one at Marware:
::
:: <http://www.marware.com/ClipAccessories.html>
::
:: Yes, I saw the notice in red letters at the top of the
:: page: "IMPORTANT NOTE: THESE ACCESSORIES ARE DESIGNED FOR
:: USE WITH MARWARE CASES ONLY." But it sure looked like the
:: case I had would work with the Marware bike holder, so I
:: ordered one. I received it, installed in on my bike, and
:: tried it with my iPod case. It slipped right in and
:: seemed to be secure. Then I took my first ride with it.
::
:: I was on our Greenway and was just getting ready to go
:: over one of the bridges that spans a creek that runs
:: along most of the greenway. When my front tire hit the
:: bump at the edge of the bridge, my iPod shot right out of
:: the bike holder. Things started moving in slow motion
:: then. It was like time slowed to 1/20th speed. The iPod
:: slowly arced upward directly toward the rail on the side
:: of the bridge. I just knew it was going over the rail and
:: into the drink. Instead, it hit one of the steel supports
:: under the rail with a loud KA-THONG, bounced back on to
:: the bridge, and rolled for a few feet. I picked it up,
:: and it was still playing, no worse for wear. I stuck it
:: in my saddlebag and finished my ride.
::
:: When I got back to my office, I immediately went back to
:: the Marware page and ordered one of their cases:
::
:: <http://www.marware.com/BASIC.html>
::
:: Now I had a case that was supposed to work with the
:: Marware bike holder. The case snapped into the holder
:: with a reassuring click and seemed to be secure. While I
:: was riding that day on a, fortunately, low traffic road,
:: and hit a bump, and the iPod again jumped right out of
:: the bike holder and landed in the middle of the road. I
:: retrieved it quickly, and it was still playing. Those
:: little suckers are tough.
::
:: When I got back to my office, I examined the bike holder
:: and case and saw what the problem was. The bike holder
:: holds the case via a spring clip, and a good vertical jar
:: will make the clip open, giving the case an opportunity
:: to slide out. I took a rubber band, doubled it up, and
:: put it around the iPod and the bike holder. I bounced the
:: front end of the bike up and down, and couldn't jar it
:: loose. I've been riding with it for a month or so like
:: that, and have not had any problems with the iPod even
:: coming loose from the bike holder, much less popping out.
::
:: Hope my experience helps prevent someone from making the
:: same mistakes that I did and almost losing an iPod. 🙁
::
:: Ken

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

why not just make several long playlists and get a waist
belt....and position the ipod at your back instead of at
your waist...it would never come loose from a waist
belt...having your iPod on your handle bar shouldn't be
necessary as you're not going ot be riding along while
hunting for songs are you?

I tried the armband and a waist belt and just didn't like
either one. They were both uncomfortable to me. I like
having the iPod on the handlebars so I can see the display.
I use it as a timer sometimes, and it's easier to glance
down at it than it is to take one hand off the handlebars to
look at my watch.

Ken

K-Man said:

A cautionary tale for those of you who have and iPod or are
thinking about buying one and using it with your bike.

Back when I first got my iPod a couple of years ago, I
purchased a third party case with a belt clip. When I got
my bike last Christmas, I started looking for iPod mounts
for bikes, and found one at Marware:

Cool story, Ken. I had a similar thing happen with my bike
computer. Cat's Eye - I usually stop on a bridge next to my
house to finish the ride. Well I thought I'd slide the
computer off its stand, and put it in my pocket before
lugging the bike through the 50 feet of woods. Wouldn'tcha
know it, the thing launched itself up in the air and headed
over the side of the railing. Slo-mo commenced and I said
'No-o-o-o....' and reached for it like Roger Maris going for
an infield fly. I didn't catch it, but tipped it enough to
make it fall over the bridge and grabbed it with the other
hand. Would -not- have been a fun swim and dive to retrieve
it in the muddy water. ;-p

BTW, although I've heard good things about the iPod, I
understand you can only dl certain types of songs on it and
the procedure isn't that easy (no drag&drop). What's up
with that?

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That's the one I recommend. It has a drag&drop interface, no
cumbersome software and is small and light, comes with case
and other stuff - also plays FM with presets. Under 80 bucks
if you shop around.

-Badger

In article <[email hidden]>,

Badger_South said:

BTW, although I've heard good things about the iPod, I
understand you can only dl certain types of songs on it
and the procedure isn't that easy (no drag&drop). What's
up with that?

The iPod's integration with iTunes in seamless, and it's a
breeze to copy songs to the iPod. It will play MP3 and AAC
files. Some people complain because it doesn't play WMA or
Ogg files, but that's not an issue for me, nor is it really
an issue for most people. I've been very happy with my iPod,
especially its durability and battery life. If this one ever
dies, I'll be buying a new one the next day.

The iRock player you mentioned is a good MP3 player, but
it's flash memory based, and I need the capacity the hard
drive based iPod gives me.

Ken

"K-Man" wrote: (clip) it's easier to glance down at it than
it is to take one hand off the handlebars to look at my
watch. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ How about mounting your watch on the
handlebars? I seem to recall there is a device designed for
that, or you could make your own.

this is god telling you not to listen to music while riding.
now you have been warned and failed to listen beware.

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Steve Knight wrote:
:: this is god telling you not to listen to music while
:: riding. now you have been warned and failed to listen
:: beware.

🙂

K-Man wrote: (snip)

Quoted message said:

I took a rubber band, doubled it up, and put it around the
iPod and the bike holder.

(snip)

Quoted message said:

Ken

Rubber band? Naw, cut up an old innertube! That's what old
innertubes are for. :-)

Speaking of MP3 players, my strategy has evolved a
little differently, and I think I'm better off than I'd
be with an iPod.

I use two devices.

One is for riding and other local outdoor activity: a Rio
Cali (amazon.comamazon.comOpen ↗
/B0000AXKBK/102-3976519-467052 9?v=glance). It has 256MB of
internal memory plus a SD card slot; with 256MB cards now
under $35 (and 1GB cards available) you can get anywhere
from 7 to 20 hours of music (or more, if you don't mind
audible compression artifacts) onto a device that has no
moving parts and 10-15 hours on one AA battery. It has a
belt clip, an arm strap, decent sport-clip earphones, and a
well-thought out no-look interface.

And it weighs next to nothing.

The other is the tried and true MP3/CD player (there are
dozens on the market, they cost $40 or so for basic ones),
which goes with me when I'm more than a day away from home.
You can carry 6GB on 10 CDs, which translates into 60
hours, more or less. The nice part is if I buy a CD in a
shop or at a concert while I'm out of town, I have
something to play it on.

Thing is, both devices together cost less than an iPod, give
me quite a bit more flexibility, and don't make me carry an
expensive thief magnet like an iPod everywhere I go.

I've been ripping my CD collection to my hard drive for
years now, so I have about 40GB of music available. The same
MP3 files feed the Rio, become CDs for the portable, are
served through the network two TiVos in two rooms, and fill
several 4.5GB DVD-Rs (which also serve as backups) for non-
stop background music.

If someone gave me a free iPod, I'm not sure what I'd
do with it.

RichC

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rich Clark said:

If someone gave me a free iPod, I'm not sure what I'd do
with it.

After a couple of days with the iPod, you'd wind up ditching
your Cali and your MP3/CD player. If not, I'll give you my
mailing address. I'll even spring for shipping. ;-)

Ken

(or more, if you don't mind audible compression artifacts)

Quoted message said:

onto a device that has no moving parts and 10-15 hours on
one AA battery. It has a belt clip, an arm strap, decent
sport-clip earphones, and a well-thought out no-look
interface.

my wife is blind think she could use it with not too much
problems? not sure if the computer software will work for
her but what about the interface?

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rich Clark said:

If someone gave me a free iPod, I'm not sure what I'd do
with it.

After a couple of days with the iPod, you'd wind up
ditching your Cali and your MP3/CD player.

Why? It's heavier and less convenient than the Cali when
cycling or working out; it's less versatile than a CD/MP3
player when away from a computer.

Quoted message said:

If not, I'll give you my mailing address. I'll even spring
for shipping. ;-)

Maybe you'd like to lend me yours for a few weeks so I can
test it out? <g>

RichC

Steve Knight said:

this is god telling you not to listen to music while
riding. now you have been warned and failed to
listen beware.

bah, why start listening to you now?
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

K-Man said:

I tried the armband and a waist belt and just didn't like
either one. They were both uncomfortable to me. I like
having the iPod on the handlebars so I can see the
display. I use it as a timer sometimes, and it's easier to
glance down at it than it is to take one hand off the
handlebars to look at my watch.

with the minidisc player i just used one of my jersey
pockets. worked fine. the ipod is a bit bigger (maybe too
big?) but the mini would be perfect.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Reuteler said:

Steve Knight said:

this is god telling you not to listen to music while
riding. now you have been warned and failed to listen
beware.

bah, why start listening to you now?

Just to quickly wax a little religious, I've sometimes
wondered: if, when we ultimately have to account for
ourselves, if the guy just ahead of us in the line-up was
waayy worse than us, does that increase our chances of
getting a break?

I also sometimes wonder what God has against me cooking a
yolk-intact, over-easy fried egg. Maybe it's the salmonella
thing. But then, He's allowed me to poison myself with
'suicide' hot chicken wings. OTOH, they're their own
punishment.

I sorta like Father Guido Sarducci's take: 'life is a job'.

cheers, Tom

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Rich Clark wrote:
:: "K-Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k-man-
:: [email hidden]...
::: In article <[email hidden]>,
::: "Rich Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::
:::: If someone gave me a free iPod, I'm not sure what I'd
:::: do with it.
:::
::: After a couple of days with the iPod, you'd wind up
::: ditching your Cali and your MP3/CD player.
::
:: Why? It's heavier and less convenient than the Cali when
:: cycling or working out; it's less versatile than a CD/MP3
:: player when away from a computer.

I question both claims...the first my be true for relatively
short workouts, but if you're touring the iPod will kick
ass. The second has a ring of truth, but if you're talking
around with 40 GB of mp3s, then who needs a CD player?

::
::: If not, I'll give you my mailing address. I'll even
::: spring for shipping. ;-)
::
:: Maybe you'd like to lend me yours for a few weeks so I
:: can test it out? <g>

Give me your address, I'll send you
mine..................but don't be holding your breath....

::
:: RichC

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

:: Why? It's heavier and less convenient than the Cali
:: when cycling or working out; it's less versatile than a
:: CD/MP3 player when away from a computer.

I question both claims...the first my be true for
relatively short

workouts,

Quoted message said:

but if you're touring the iPod will kick ass. The second
has a ring of truth, but if you're talking around with 40
GB of mp3s, then who needs a

CD

Quoted message said:

player?

The Cali weighs exactly half as much as an iPod Mini. I put
10 hours of music on mine on Sunday and it's good for a week
of commuting without repeating a song. (256MB internal plus
256MB on SD card.)

If I'm touring or traveling, one of the things I'm doing is
visiting used CD stores and seeking out interesting local
music, and bands are always selling their CDs at shows. An
iPod would be of no use. Meanwhile, I can travel with 10GB
of MP3s on CD along with a $40 player and not worry about a
$400 device being lost or stolen, and I can buy new music
without needing a computer.

RichC

"Steve Knight" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

(or more, if you don't mind audible compression
artifacts)

Quoted message said:

onto a device that has no moving parts and 10-15 hours on
one AA battery.

It

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

has a belt clip, an arm strap, decent sport-clip
earphones, and a well-thought out no-look interface.

my wife is blind think she could use it with not too much
problems? not

sure if

Quoted message said:

the computer software will work for her but what about the
interface?

The Cali is designed to be operated by feel. The most basic
functions are easy: a power button and a 4-way "pencil
eraser" switch for play/pause, forward, back, and stop.
There's also a rocker on top for volume.

Other functions require reading, however, or at least
memorizing the sequence of button-presses to navigate the
menu-driven interface for choosing playlists, changing
settings, switching from MP3 to FM, etc.

I have no insight as to what's available in speakable
software for this sort of application.

RichC

listening to music while riding?

and Darwin rolled over in his grave and smiled :-)

"K-Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k-man-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A cautionary tale for those of you who have and iPod or
are thinking about buying one and using it with your bike.

Back when I first got my iPod a couple of years ago, I
purchased a third party case with a belt clip. When I got
my bike last Christmas, I started looking for iPod mounts
for bikes, and found one at Marware:

<http://www.marware.com/ClipAccessories.html>

Yes, I saw the notice in red letters at the top of the
page: "IMPORTANT
NOTE: THESE ACCESSORIES ARE DESIGNED FOR USE WITH MARWARE
CASES ONLY." But it sure looked like the case I had
would work with the Marware bike holder, so I
ordered one. I received it, installed in on my bike,
and tried it with my iPod case. It slipped right in
and seemed to be secure. Then I took my first ride
with it.

I was on our Greenway and was just getting ready to go
over one of the bridges that spans a creek that runs along
most of the greenway. When my front tire hit the bump at
the edge of the bridge, my iPod shot right out of the bike
holder. Things started moving in slow motion then. It was
like time slowed to 1/20th speed. The iPod slowly arced
upward directly toward the rail on the side of the bridge.
I just knew it was going over the rail and into the drink.
Instead, it hit one of the steel supports under the rail
with a loud KA-THONG, bounced back on to the bridge, and
rolled for a few feet. I picked it up, and it was still
playing, no worse for wear. I stuck it in my saddlebag and
finished my ride.

When I got back to my office, I immediately went back to
the Marware page and ordered one of their cases:

<http://www.marware.com/BASIC.html>

Now I had a case that was supposed to work with the
Marware bike holder. The case snapped into the holder with
a reassuring click and seemed to be secure. While I was
riding that day on a, fortunately, low traffic road, and
hit a bump, and the iPod again jumped right out of the
bike holder and landed in the middle of the road. I
retrieved it quickly, and it was still playing. Those
little suckers are tough.

When I got back to my office, I examined the bike holder
and case and saw what the problem was. The bike holder
holds the case via a spring clip, and a good vertical jar
will make the clip open, giving the case an opportunity to
slide out. I took a rubber band, doubled it up, and put it
around the iPod and the bike holder. I bounced the front
end of the bike up and down, and couldn't jar it loose.
I've been riding with it for a month or so like that, and
have not had any problems with the iPod even coming loose
from the bike holder, much less popping out.

Hope my experience helps prevent someone from making the
same mistakes that I did and almost losing an iPod. 🙁

Ken